Why can’t the hard of thinking grasp this? It’s not about “having right of way”, “having priority” or who the finger of blame is going to be pointed at in the event of a collision - If a collision occurs you are the one sat at the side of the road exchanging details, you are the one waiting on a repair so you can continue your journey legally (or even worse, waiting on recovery), and you are the one who has cost your employer significant sums of money to cover the repairs/lost time/missed deliveries, regardless of who had “right of way”.
Likewise with speed limits. In a 10 mile stretch of roadworks the difference between 50mph and 45mph is about 80 seconds. So why not just chill out, back off, drop back and wait until the end of the roadworks?
Roymondo:
Why can’t the hard of thinking grasp this? It’s not about “having right of way”, “having priority” or who the finger of blame is going to be pointed at in the event of a collision - If a collision occurs you are the one sat at the side of the road exchanging details, you are the one waiting on a repair so you can continue your journey legally (or even worse, waiting on recovery), and you are the one who has cost your employer significant sums of money to cover the repairs/lost time/missed deliveries, regardless of who had “right of way”.
Likewise with speed limits. In a 10 mile stretch of roadworks the difference between 50mph and 45mph is about 80 seconds. So why not just chill out, back off, drop back and wait until the end of the roadworks?
Just for those drivers who are complaining about drivers hogging Lane 2, don’t forget that the following rule in the Highway Code is on your side (emphasis added):
Rule 268
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.
Tommy T you say in one of your posts you find cars brake test you.
Now tell me why they would do that please?
Do you know how to drive like a professional driver or are you one of the many that just think they are a good driver.
You have got me wondering now.
albion1971:
Tommy T you say in one of your posts you find cars brake test you.
Now tell me why they would do that please?
Do you know how to drive like a professional driver or are you one of the many that just think they are a good driver.
You have got me wondering now.
It’s not only me ,They will brake test drivers of HGV’s for fun because they are lunatics ,crash for cash springs to mind seen these attempts quite a lot,though not that many aimed at me, there doesn’t have to be a good reason for these muppets to do this , even the sounding of your horn or flashing of the head lights due to them doing something dangerous in the first place, will result in this tactic from the braindead
albion1971:
Tommy T you say in one of your posts you find cars brake test you.
Now tell me why they would do that please?
Do you know how to drive like a professional driver or are you one of the many that just think they are a good driver.
You have got me wondering now.
It’s not only me ,They will brake test drivers of HGV’s for fun because they are lunatics ,crash for cash springs to mind seen these attempts quite a lot,though not that many aimed at me, there doesn’t have to be a good reason for these muppets to do this , even the sounding of your horn or flashing of the head lights due to them doing something dangerous in the first place, will result in this tactic from the braindead
Not being funny, but i’ve driven god knows how many miles through average speed zones & never had an altercation. If they are pulling in front of you and immediately slamming on, then your theory may be correct. However, are you sure you aren’t just driving too close and either a) ■■■■■■■ people off or b) creating an easy opportunity for a crash for cash scam?
Most people don’t take kindly to truck drivers playing billy big ■■■■■■■■ flashing their lights & blowing their horn because your not going fast enough for them, it rubs people up their wrong way and is bound to attract ill-thought out reactions.
The brake testing that i have experience of didn’t occur in roadworks and i never said it did, but i have noticed some fools who brake as they approach the speed cameras,
And if some ■■■ joins the motorway in a dangerous manner causing me to have to bake harshly or take other evasive action i will give it the horn and lights,too many knob rots on the roads
Sorry tommy t, but you come across as just plain angry behind the wheel. Albion has explained that you have priority on the carriageway, not right of way, but you don’t see this. Check the law, nobody has ‘right of way’, except I think, pedestrians on marked pedestrian (zebra) crossings. I stand to be corrected on that one. I drove for forty plus years on heavy vehicles and for four years previous to that, and only retired early because of a work accident. Also travelled the length and breadth of the country as a boy with me old dad, so I’m talking from a lot of experience. It’s so easy to use a bit of common sense when you’re driving, which makes me wonder how you haven’t been involved in a serious smash up around a slip road… or have you ? It’s already been pointed out that you gain next to nothing by driving a couple of mph quicker through roadworks. No amount of pressure from a boss,tm, office boy should make anyone drop the lead. You get there when you get there. More than once, I’ve had people out of their cars for tailgating. Not proud of that, but I was a bit more ready for fisticuffs then.
The thing is that you’re all out there earning a living, do you want to spend time in the nick or hospital ? Does anyone expect to keep their job when they end up shunting a few cars because they’re in a hurry ?
I’m not aiming solely at you, there are plenty of people on here who, if their post’s are anything to go by, couldn’t drive a nail through a bar of soap without bending it !
Taken the words out of my mouth peterm and you are quite correct about priority etc. As I have said many times it all boils down to attitude. Yes we have plenty idiots that do not know how to drive properly but as professionals we need to allow for them.
Far too much of the…I am right…You are wrong…Stuff you no matter what the consequences.
The thing is that you’re all out there earning a living, do you want to spend time in the nick or hospital ? Does anyone expect to keep their job when they end up shunting a few cars because they’re in a hurry ?
there are plenty of people on here who, if their post’s are anything to go by, couldn’t drive a nail through a bar of soap without bending it !
It’s all about driver’s attitudes to the job and how they approach it.
The ones who sit stressed out, ie. must get there before…■■■,
sat on the limiter all day, don’t give an inch to others, nights out in lay by types parking up on 8.59, they are the ones who stand more chance of an accident.
If you do not succumb to pressure everything else fits in
…, instead if you do your job efficiently at a steady sensible pace it’s a whole different ball game in terms of health and attitude, and especially in avoiding accidents such as the thread subject.
Trying to tell some (edpecially on here ) that fact, is like telling them not to blink.
The thing is that you’re all out there earning a living, do you want to spend time in the nick or hospital ? Does anyone expect to keep their job when they end up shunting a few cars because they’re in a hurry ?
there are plenty of people on here who, if their post’s are anything to go by, couldn’t drive a nail through a bar of soap without bending it !
It’s all about driver’s attitudes to the job and how they approach it.
The ones who sit stressed out, ie. must get there before…■■■,
sat on the limiter all day, don’t give an inch to others, nights out in lay by types parking up on 8.59, they are the ones who stand more chance of an accident.
If you do not succumb to pressure everything else fits in
…, instead if you do your job efficiently at a steady sensible pace it’s a whole different ball game in terms of health and attitude, and especially in avoiding accidents such as the thread subject.
Trying to tell some (edpecially on here ) that fact, is like telling them not to blink.
There seems to be a group of angry drivers on here who lose their rag for almost any sort of comment and start firing insults. If they can’t keep their cool behind a keyboard what chance have they got on the road?
Roymondo:
Why can’t the hard of thinking grasp this? It’s not about “having right of way”, “having priority” or who the finger of blame is going to be pointed at in the event of a collision - If a collision occurs you are the one sat at the side of the road exchanging details, you are the one waiting on a repair so you can continue your journey legally (or even worse, waiting on recovery), and you are the one who has cost your employer significant sums of money to cover the repairs/lost time/missed deliveries, regardless of who had “right of way”.
Likewise with speed limits. In a 10 mile stretch of roadworks the difference between 50mph and 45mph is about 80 seconds. So why not just chill out, back off, drop back and wait until the end of the roadworks?
because it’s called progress! That is all.
You’re not going to make much progress if you hit the car you’re trying to push along the motorway by tailgating.
The thing is that you’re all out there earning a living, do you want to spend time in the nick or hospital ? Does anyone expect to keep their job when they end up shunting a few cars because they’re in a hurry ?
there are plenty of people on here who, if their post’s are anything to go by, couldn’t drive a nail through a bar of soap without bending it !
If you do not succumb to pressure everything else fits in
…, instead if you do your job efficiently at a steady sensible pace it’s a whole different ball game in terms of health and attitude, and especially in avoiding accidents such as the thread subject.
Trying to tell some (edpecially on here ) that fact, is like telling them not to blink.
Yep, age and years served mean little either.
Whenever i started a new job, or turned up for a sub contract job with a tractor unit, or even agency for the thankfully short times i needed them, the first thing i would do is find a regular driver there who’s opinion might be worth soliciting, and ask them about the job i was about to do, the pitfalls and what was the expected turn around time, the latter point being the most important.
I’d then add an inexperienced in that particular job driver’s time scale to the day, so if the regular drivers did the job in ten hours i’d take 11 or 12 depending on what it was, that meant not only did i have time to do the job right without pressure i also didn’t carve up a regular’s job, which is common driver courtesy far as i’m concerned.
I can belt along flat out on the limiter or well above if need be just like anyone else, but where i work we are not asked to rush and the job takes as long as it takes to do properly (which is what counts there), so invariably i’ll put the cruise on at either 82 or if a longer run 85k’s, and let those bulging eyed saddos without a minute to live go by jammed up others arses trying to push them along, journeys take minutes longer and it all goes to make a far more pleasant day than pushing and shoving to make all of 5 minutes gain.
I tailgate regularly. I’ll hold my hand up and admit it. Normally I do it on approach to a slip road when, because I’ve left myself a large breaking space, a car cuts in from lane two to make the slip but has to brake hard to avoid hitting the car infront. The funny thing is, they’re in exactly the same place on the slip as if they’d waited behind me!
Captain Caveman 76:
I tailgate regularly. I’ll hold my hand up and admit it. Normally I do it on approach to a slip road when, because I’ve left myself a large breaking space, a car cuts in from lane two to make the slip but has to brake hard to avoid hitting the car infront. The funny thing is, they’re in exactly the same place on the slip as if they’d waited behind me!
Surprise you admit to that on here. I am sure there are plenty others that do it but will not admit it. Still bad driving and dangerous as well. You should not let other bad drivers make you into one. It can easily be avoided. Sorry but just my opinion.
from a car drivers point of view.
yesterday I was driving through a 50 mph roadworks, I was driving at 54 mph on my CC, on the basis that it was around the correct speed. Lots of cars doing 50 mph by their speedos , so I was passing them (albeit not very quickly), hence I was using the centre lane quite legally.
Then along comes a blue and white bulker (no name) who decides to see how close he can get.
So, do I slow down to merge to my left, speed up and risk points or ignore the clod risking some kind of road rage?
Why should I a) slow down to below the limit in order to merge to left, b) break the limit or c) be put in danger.
I was doing NOTHING wrong.
Sadly, I know what some of the replies on here will be. The usual posters who sincerely believe that trucks are Gods gift to the road using fraternity, who resolutely give excuses for even the worst kind of truck driving believing that holding a C+E is some kind of badge of superiority, it’s not.
I am sure that during my truck driving days, not so long ago, there was far less of this kind of attitude from truck drivers.
For those interested, I moved to the left with the slower traffic and pulled back out behind the truck, taking pleasure in passing him again when the restrictions finished.
And if some ■■■ joins the motorway in a dangerous manner causing me to have to bake harshly or take other evasive action i will give it the horn and lights,too many knob rots on the roads
It may be a good idea to use the art of observation and anticipation with a little bit of patience thrown in.
Captain Caveman 76:
I tailgate regularly. I’ll hold my hand up and admit it. Normally I do it on approach to a slip road when, because I’ve left myself a large breaking space, a car cuts in from lane two to make the slip but has to brake hard to avoid hitting the car infront. The funny thing is, they’re in exactly the same place on the slip as if they’d waited behind me!
Surprise you admit to that on here. I am sure there are plenty others that do it but will not admit it. Still bad driving and dangerous as well. You should not let other bad drivers make you into one. It can easily be avoided. Sorry but just my opinion.
I think maybe I worded it wrong. I was trying to say I become an unwitting tailgaiter (on a sadly regular basis) when cars cut into the ample space I leave myself. A nicely edited dash cam video will just show a hacked off lorry driver inches from the rear bumper!
albion1971:
And if some ■■■ joins the motorway in a dangerous manner causing me to have to bake harshly or take other evasive action i will give it the horn and lights,too many knob rots on the roads
It may be a good idea the art of observation and anticipation with a little bit of patience thrown in.
These may not be in roadworks but it shows examples of what we professional drivers encounter on the uk roads it is not only us that should plan have patience or anticipate things, they drive around in a trance like state, these fools shouldn’t even be on the roads
albion1971:
And if some ■■■ joins the motorway in a dangerous manner causing me to have to bake harshly or take other evasive action i will give it the horn and lights,too many knob rots on the roads
It may be a good idea the art of observation and anticipation with a little bit of patience thrown in.
These may not be in roadworks but it shows examples of what we professional drivers encounter on the uk roads it is not only us that should plan have patience or anticipate things, they drive around in a trance like state, these fools shouldn’t even be on the roads
You are not going to change other drivers, although there are those people that think they are doing the polices job and will try to change people driving either by acts of overt or passive aggression.
The best way to deal with it is to analyse your own driving and think how you can avoid those idiots and then let their actions go, if you let them wind you’ll just increase your stress levels.
Remember you probably drive in excess of 100,000kms per year, many of the drivers you encounter probably only drive a few thousand miles each year and mostly on the same route each day. They’ll never have the driving experience you have, although they no doubt think they’re the best drivers in the World, so you as the highly experienced driver should make allowances for then. Of course they’ll never thank you, most probably wan’t even notice, but you’ll know, you’'l have the high ground of knowing your experience and actions made the difference between everybody going on their way and not being involved in an accident.
) that fact, is like telling them not to blink. 
