Dont drive on the limiter unless overtaking. Cruise 2mph below top speed.
Help a sister out who is struggling to pass or who has made a ■■■■ poor decision as to when to overtake.
Create space by easing off a bit in congested traffic, rinse and repeat if someone enters that space.
When approaching an onslip be prepared to assist other traffic to enter carriageway try to avoid inconveiniencing other traffic on carriageway by harsh braking or sudden lane changes.
When changing lane indicate early, giving other road users thinking time can avoid confruntational situations.
5a. If you’ve cut someone up apologise with an indicator flick, this can diffuse the situation and spoil their dashcam youtube sqeals as it will look like they’ve flashed you in.
If your first on the scene of a large vehicle exiting a layby from a standing start, dont panic and lurch over to another lane, simply ease off and accelerate with them, if youve followed tip 1 they will be faster anyway.
See tip 12
If fitted use adaptive cruise control (ACC) when attempting in cab shenanigans like tea pooring, food finding, knob tickling.
Expect to stop in an emergency, expect to be cut up then its less of a surprise when it happens.
Remember that vehicle who has just cut you up will at somepoint be cut up themselves.
For MAN and Merc drivers always apologise when sat in the middle of a roundabout or junction whilst you wait for your vehicle to fumble into gear.
See tip 7
Remember we are drivers its not all about reaching your destination its more about the journey. Theres always tomorrow unless your reading this yesterday then its the day after.
Funsize mars make great regular size mars bars for midgets.
Regular size mars bars make great funsize mars bars for giants.
Toblerone bars make great ‘Next Customer Please’ signs for dyslexics at supermarket checkouts.
Dance like no ones watching, make love like its your last time, ■■■■■ are not be trusted after the age of 40.
Dont post on trucknet the morning after a vodka binge as your still probably ■■■■■■■
All this bollox about changing the rules to stop it happening. It would make no difference because these brain dead morons would still do it.
I get it in my car,sticking to the speed limit in the correct lane and more often or not I have another car or truck driving far too close.
It makes me mad when the lorry driver uses it as an excuse because a brain dead car driver does not know correct discipline or does not want to drive right on the limit. The limit is not a target and if a car driver does not feel happy at the limit leave them be.
Most car drivers are clueless. We are meant to be the professionals. Any driver that tailgates or drives too close at anytime no matter how bad the car in front is driving is a complete idiot and does not deserve to be on the road.
You’d probably find that a large amount of these “brain dead car drivers” are actually lorry drivers going to or from their place of employment. Let’s face it, they’re hardly going to drive sensibly in the car if they drive like a ■■■■ in a truck are they.
BillyHunt:
You’d probably find that a large amount of these “brain dead car drivers” are actually lorry drivers going to or from their place of employment. Let’s face it, they’re hardly going to drive sensibly in the car if they drive like a ■■■■ in a truck are they.
That is the whole problem with that type of ‘‘driver’’
They are that pig ■■■■ thick they can’t grasp that you are not meant to drive a truck like a car , but as we all see, they do.
Tomorrow, instead of tail-gating your way through road works because even though you can do 50mph, somebody in front of you has the time or the temerity to do 45mph…ease back, take a breath and enjoy the scenery. Also, remember every time ‘you lose it’…its only you that have lost. Then take that feeling through the day…your body will thank you for it, and so will the people who have to put up with you when you stagger through the door at night.
Janos:
I am still fuming about a car trip I made recently to Birmingham in the evening. Tailgated by HGV’s through every set of roadworks even though I was on the speed limit, and it did not matter whether I was in the inside lane or the middle lane. It is just madness.
It is okay to impose a speed limit to protect the workforce working on the roads, and impose it, but then turn a blind eye to the meatheads in trucks who terrorise innocent motorists and put other peoples lives at risk. Am sure more people are killed in cars by the jokers driving these trucks than road-workers. Can it be that hard to bring a prosecution with the technology available?
You have a calibrated odometer fitted to you car ? if not then it is very likely that if your odometer is displaying 50mph you actual road speed will be less 45mph or maybe even less hence why you had trucks up your chuff through the roadworks, I am able to gauge in a car or van what 50 or 55 mph is , also these motorway road works have the average Specs type speed camera’s (revenue generation devices) i cannot recollect seeing the same problems, and i have never had a speeding ticket so far,
I also have at times straddled both lanes 2 and 3 in narrow lanes sections of some roadworks to maintain the speed limit of 50 or 40mph,why because of the Muppet’s who act as rolling roadblocks sometimes you are expected to do what is necessary to get to a drop/collection and it can be also of great benefit to the driver to do this,
Driving on the uk roads the standard of driving is really poor when compared to other EU countries , it is little wonder why our roads are so ■■■■■■
As for traffic joining from a slip road, i will if safe to do so cancel cc or take foot of gas pedal, i wont brake though, as i have right of way. I will also change lanes again if safe to do so, .
Joining the motorway (rule 259) Rule 259
Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining motorway. You should
give priority to traffic already on the motorway check the traffic on the motorway and match your speed to fit safely into the traffic flow in the left-hand lane
not cross solid white lines that separate lanes or use the hard shoulder
stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway
remain in the left-hand lane long enough to adjust to the speed of traffic before considering overtaking.Joining the motorway (rule 259)
Rule 259
That may be the case with some older cars tommy t but newer cars speedos are far more accurate. I had mine checked and reading 30 mph I was doing 29 mph.
Apart from that you cannot expect drivers to know about that and it is not an excuse to bully innocent drivers.
You do not have right of way. You have priority as it says in the HC. There is a difference.
Wrinkly:
Lets get our facts right there are no lane one, two or three. We drive on the left in this country, so the left hand lane is the driving lane any lanes to your right are therefore overtaking lanes, even when the lane on the left is being repaired. The first overtaking lane becomes the driving lane.
If the driver in front is under the the stated speed limit adjust your speed to keep a safe gap and when the opportunity arises overtake and move back into the driving lane.
Before you all slate me try taking the advance motorist written driving paper, I got 95%.
I am not slating you, but lanes need to be numbered to identify them, 1 near side 2 middle 3 outer lane, in road works the notifications identify the lanes restricted lanes should be obvious by their notification , personally I will go with the flow, if a car is doing 40 on the middle lane then I will cruise past him at 50 on the inside lane and I have had police cars follow me with no ill effects… Do not do this at home
inside, middle and outside lane in this country. Granny, sandwich and suicide lane for us professional drivers on cb
There are broken white lines at the end of slip roads (give way) to traffic from the right , that was the law when i passed my driving test, and as far as i’m aware it still is just re worded , priority isn’t the same as give way to then ? but that is what the broken lines are for, So if you hit a vehicle joining the motorway side on who’s fault is that, ? even with a dash cam fitted that captured the car joining the motorway in a dangerous manner and a rear end shunt, it maybe with out the evidence from the dash cam could end up being the HGV drivers fault, but with dash cam ,there’s no too ways about who is at fault imo
There are too many ■■■’s on the road who just don’t have a clue, maybe there should be a second part to the driving test that covers motorway driving and basic first aid/ fire fighting ?
You say the newer cars have odometers that are more accurate, well in my experience i haven’t seen this,If this is the case it would confirm car driver error, and even imply that they deliberately drive at a slower speed to hold up other traffic , why because they are frightened to use the gas pedal, or they cant find it? either would indicate that they are not competent drivers and should not be on our roads, the driving test is flawed that’s assuming that they actually have a full /valid driving licence of course and the standard of driving that i see on an almost daily occurrence throws some serious doubts as to if they have,
Then there are foreign drivers You asian /muslim drivers seem to be even worse no traffic signs apply to them the traffic laws don’t apply to them ,
tommy t:
There are broken white lines at the end of slip roads (give way) to traffic from the right , that was the law when i passed my driving test, and as far as i’m aware it still is just re worded , but that is what the broken lines are for, So if you hit a vehicle joining the motorway side on who’s fault is that, ? even with a dash cam fitted that captured the car joining the motorway in a dangerous manner and a rear end shunt, it maybe with out the evidence from the dash cam could end up being the HGV drivers fault, but with dash cam ,there’s no too ways about who is at fault imo
Nobody is disputing that you have priority over vehicles on the slip.
The problem arises when you get a combination of a numb car driver who knows no better than to force his way in, and a self righteous truck driver who will not try and avoid a collision, because he thinks it’s acceptable to do so, because he has ‘‘right of way’’.
As for who’s fault it is. I reckon both parties, one for being ignorant the other for being arrogant.
tommy t:
There are broken white lines at the end of slip roads (give way) to traffic from the right , that was the law when i passed my driving test, and as far as i’m aware it still is just re worded , but that is what the broken lines are for, So if you hit a vehicle joining the motorway side on who’s fault is that, ? even with a dash cam fitted that captured the car joining the motorway in a dangerous manner and a rear end shunt, it maybe with out the evidence from the dash cam could end up being the HGV drivers fault, but with dash cam ,there’s no too ways about who is at fault imo
Nobody is disputing that you have priority over vehicles on the slip.
The problem arises when you get a combination of a numb car driver who knows no better than to force his way in, and a self righteous truck driver who will not try and avoid a collision, because he thinks it’s acceptable to do so, because he has ‘‘right of way’’.
As for who’s fault it is. I reckon both parties, one for being ignorant the other for being arrogant.
I already said that i would slow without braking or change lanes, where safe and legal to do so, Now if the fool in the car cannot press gas pedal a bit harder to join motorway at a safe distance in front of me ,and then accelerate out of my way, or brake and give way, that isn’t my problem, nor should it ever become my problem, ■■■■ em
Oh and when i’m driving my car on the motorways i don’t barge on it from a slip i have braked/stopped lots of times to give way if i can drive in that way there is no valid reason why others can’t do the same, i also drove like this before i drove a lorry because i consider it basic common sense something that is lacking amongst the majority of car drivers
tommy t:
There are broken white lines at the end of slip roads (give way) to traffic from the right , that was the law when i passed my driving test, and as far as i’m aware it still is just re worded , but that is what the broken lines are for, So if you hit a vehicle joining the motorway side on who’s fault is that, ? even with a dash cam fitted that captured the car joining the motorway in a dangerous manner and a rear end shunt, it maybe with out the evidence from the dash cam could end up being the HGV drivers fault, but with dash cam ,there’s no too ways about who is at fault imo
Nobody is disputing that you have priority over vehicles on the slip.
The problem arises when you get a combination of a numb car driver who knows no better than to force his way in, and a self righteous truck driver who will not try and avoid a collision, because he thinks it’s acceptable to do so, because he has ‘‘right of way’’.
As for who’s fault it is. I reckon both parties, one for being ignorant the other for being arrogant.
I already said that i would slow without braking or change lanes, where safe and legal to do so, Now if the fool in the car cannot press gas pedal a bit harder to join motorway at a safe distance in front of me ,and then accelerate out of my way, or brake and give way, that isn’t my problem, nor should it ever become my problem, [zb] em
Yeh, but I wasn’t meaning YOU were one of the arrogant drivers.
As for the '‘■■■■ em’'bit, …I take your point, but you are a pro, you drive full time 9/10 hours a day, you know what you are doing.
Where as a lot of rush hour car drivers are driving as a means to an end, they maybe only drive to work and back every day for an hour.
Either young, old, and/or inexperienced, just passed test, not very proficient, plain bloody thick or a combination of all.
Not preaching, but as a pro I reckon absolute evasive driving in that situation is better than causing serious injury to some of these muppets, it’s one of the aspects that (should) seperate us from them.
You sometimes get the impression some of us actually don’t have cars we drive ourselves, or family and friends who drive.
How would you feel to be overtaken by your wife/girlfriend/son/daughter/gay lover in their car with a 44t truck two inches from their bumper? Would you think…I wonder what they have done to deserve that? Somehow, I think not.
I know an ex-HGV driver. Great lad, drives a forklift in Petrolite/ Baker now. In his previous life he was in his car and got hit up the back end by an Irish lad in a truck. He survived, but gives you an idea of the impact that his right leg broke as the car crumpled.
He used to be on containers with me, and if he was stuck anywhere, he used to carry his running gear, and he would change and be off on a run. No running for him now. The inequity of somebody either dying or receiving life changing injuries because of some drivers twisted idea of what is right and wrong really rankles with me. There is only one way…the right way. Not your way, because of some trivial perceived injustice such as dawdling in roadworks. Am sure there are some real horror stories out there about people in cars being decimated by trucks after following too close.
tommy t:
There are broken white lines at the end of slip roads (give way) to traffic from the right , that was the law when i passed my driving test, and as far as i’m aware it still is just re worded , but that is what the broken lines are for, So if you hit a vehicle joining the motorway side on who’s fault is that, ? even with a dash cam fitted that captured the car joining the motorway in a dangerous manner and a rear end shunt, it maybe with out the evidence from the dash cam could end up being the HGV drivers fault, but with dash cam ,there’s no too ways about who is at fault imo
Nobody is disputing that you have priority over vehicles on the slip.
The problem arises when you get a combination of a numb car driver who knows no better than to force his way in, and a self righteous truck driver who will not try and avoid a collision, because he thinks it’s acceptable to do so, because he has ‘‘right of way’’.
As for who’s fault it is. I reckon both parties, one for being ignorant the other for being arrogant.
I already said that i would slow without braking or change lanes, where safe and legal to do so, Now if the fool in the car cannot press gas pedal a bit harder to join motorway at a safe distance in front of me ,and then accelerate out of my way, or brake and give way, that isn’t my problem, nor should it ever become my problem, [zb] em
Yeh, but I wasn’t meaning YOU were one of the arrogant drivers.
As for the ‘’[zb] em’'bit, …I take your point, but you are a pro, you drive full time 9/10 hours a day, you know what you are doing.
Where as a lot of rush hour car drivers are driving as a means to an end, they maybe only drive to work and back every day for an hour.
Either young, old, and/or inexperienced, just passed test, not very proficient, plain bloody thick or a combination of all.
Not preaching, but as a pro I reckon absolute evasive driving in that situation is better than causing serious injury to some of these muppets, it’s one of the aspects that (should) separate us from them.
(The standard of a lot of those driving Cars needs to be improved , maybe a second part to the driving test that includes motorway driving would help achieve this, and create a law that until a driver passes the motorway test they cannot use the motorways) is the way foward, at least they couldn’t be considered unaware anymore, not that is any legal excuse
I have had the odd idiot still dither about joining the motorway even after i have changed lanes to allow them on the m/way, and then there’s the zb you get at the other end of the bad driving scale Those i’m joining in front of you come what may they can move for me, then following you reacting by sounding the horn and flashing of lights they then try and brake test you, putting their family in danger of serious injuries yet again, it’s this mindset i want to see be taken off our roads permanently( only problems are banned driver still drive) But they don’t seem to be targeted by police like HGV’s are this attitude needs sorting imo
tommy t:
odometer fitted to you car ? if not then it is very likely that if your odometer is displaying 50mph you actual road speed will be less 45mph or maybe even less hence why you had trucks up your chuff through the roadworks, I am able to gauge in a car or van what 50 or 55 mph is , also these motorway road works have the average Specs type speed camera’s (revenue generation devices) i cannot recollect seeing the same problems, and i have never had a speeding ticket so far,
I also have at times straddled both lanes 2 and 3 in narrow lanes sections of some roadworks to maintain the speed limit of 50 or 40mph,why because of the Muppet’s who act as rolling roadblocks sometimes you are expected to do what is necessary to get to a drop/collection and it can be also of great benefit to the driver to do this,
just love the logic … so to prevent others for creating a rolling road block - you create a rolling road block for both lanes.
I agree with you regarding the inaccuracies of speedometers, my citereon is doing 60 when showing 65 so presumably when showing 50 I will be doing only 46… so if someone is trying to abide by the law in a scary average speed area, and a pushy trucker knows he can get away with 54 on his accurate speedometer … then we can immediately see the possible conflict.
The concept that puzzles a great many drivers is; you are allowed to drive below the posted limit, but never above it.
tommy t:
The standard of a lot of those driving Cars needs to be improved , maybe a second part to the driving test that includes motorway driving would help achieve this, and create a law that until a driver passes the motorway test they cannot use the motorways) is the way foward, at least they couldn’t be considered unaware anymore, not that is any legal excuse
I have had the odd idiot still dither about joining the motorway even after i have changed lanes to allow them on the m/way, and then there’s the zb you get at the other end of the bad driving scale Those i’m joining in front of you come what may they can move for me, then following you reacting by sounding the horn and flashing of lights they then try and brake test you, putting their family in danger of serious injuries yet again, it’s this mindset i want to see be taken off our roads permanently( only problems are banned driver still drive) But they don’t seem to be targeted by police like HGV’s are this attitude needs sorting imo
Yeh I agree with that. The idiots outnumber the competent, or maybe it’s just they stand out more , like ■■■■ poor truck drivers do, over the good ones.
I had a car pull out on me once, it wasn’t there when I approached the slip, but came in on my blindside and sideswiped my fuel tank.
I pulled in the hard shoulder and got out all guns blazing mad as ■■■■.
Thing is when I got there it was a young girl crying and obviously pregnant. I calmed her down, sat with her for a while, and her not to worry about it, and even made her a coffee while she rang home.
I looked around her car and assured her it was ok to drive to the next junction.
When she was ok and gathered I followed her off to the next junction where we met her Dad, who actually apologised and thanked me when the situation was explained.
So that is where my stance on this originated.
tommy t:
odometer fitted to you car ? if not then it is very likely that if your odometer is displaying 50mph you actual road speed will be less 45mph or maybe even less hence why you had trucks up your chuff through the roadworks, I am able to gauge in a car or van what 50 or 55 mph is , also these motorway road works have the average Specs type speed camera’s (revenue generation devices) i cannot recollect seeing the same problems, and i have never had a speeding ticket so far,
I also have at times straddled both lanes 2 and 3 in narrow lanes sections of some roadworks to maintain the speed limit of 50 or 40mph,why because of the Muppet’s who act as rolling roadblocks sometimes you are expected to do what is necessary to get to a drop/collection and it can be also of great benefit to the driver to do this,
just love the logic … so to prevent others for creating a rolling road block - you create a rolling road block for both lanes.
That maybe but it ain’t blocking anyone because they aren’t doing the speed limit!!!
Another thing they could do is educate car drivers as to the amount of space needed by lorries and buses in particular when trurning , the amount of muppets who will still stop on the give way lines at a road junction when there’s a lorry or bus signalling to turn right, when had they( A), been aware( B) bothered to look at the situation as they approached, granted there are some instances where it wouldn’t be reasonable for the car driver to do stop short of the give way markings enough for the bus /lorry to turn into the road safely , 9 out of 10 times the lorry /bus driver will have to stop holding traffic up and signal the muppet who is still sat at the give way to get out of the way, sometimes they are so thick that flashing the headlights doesn’t achieve this
, but as we all see, they do. 
