Longs of Leeds Driver shortage

LeedsChris:
@ affmabus…Can you back up your personal insults of me, or are you just another keyboard gangster?

I drive nights to scotch and Lichfield.Can we arrange to meet up anytime to give you the chance to insult me to my face.

I don’t have a low or high opinion of myself regarding my job, but i do know that we are not on the same level as the previous occupations i mentioned.

Too many hgv drivers are incompetant at reversing, pulling air lines out, dropping trailers on their necks.The amount of road accidents with a lorry involved is shocking.

If a pilot, surgeon, civil engineer or gas fitter were to make the same basic mistakes day in day out, then the death rate would shoot up.These are deserving of the term professional, not your typical thick calamitious lorry driver.

Where is scotch? Can’t find it on my map.

Oh by the way, I think you are a tool too.

LeedsChris:
No im not one of these ‘idiots’ on £7 p/h.I am salaried, and going by my earnings since april and my average weekly hours, my rate is £10.50 p/h.

Too many drivers moan about pay and conditions, yet they are still doing the job.Either they are masochists or deep down they know that the job is a doddle compared to a real days graft.

Does anyone seriously refer to themselves as a “professional” driver.That would be so cringeworthy if i heard that term used in conversation.

I probably know you but what the hell, we wouldn’t be mates with your attitude to the job. I take it that the £10.50 per hour is an average based upon all your hours worked so in actual effect you get about £7 per hour with a double crap overtime rate.

Why would you probably know me?

And no you’re not right on how i earn £10.50 p/h

Hey nappysack, scotch is that small county just above ■■■■■■■ you ■■■■■.

Getting a little silly here, is it going to escalate into a full on internet fight with caplocks :unamused:

Ffs, grow up…

LeedsChris:
Hey nappysack, scotch is that small county just above ■■■■■■■ you [zb].

There was me thinking it was called Scotland…
Scotch, correct me if I’m wrong, is a drink :wink:

newmercman:
Getting a little silly here, is it going to escalate into a full on internet fight with caplocks :unamused:

Ffs, grow up…

NO. LET’S HAVE A FIGHT! :smiley:

Scotch. It is a drink. It refers to someone from Scotland. It can mean to put an end to. It can also mean to wedge.
It is not a country.
I went to Carlisle this week. Did I go down English?

happysack:

newmercman:
Getting a little silly here, is it going to escalate into a full on internet fight with caplocks :unamused:

Ffs, grow up…

NO. LET’S HAVE A FIGHT! :smiley:

I’m a lover not a fighter :laughing:

Ooooo baaabbbbyyyyyy x

Scotch is also a sort of round sausage. With an egg in it.

happysack:
Scotch. It is a drink. It refers to someone from Scotland. It can mean to put an end to. It can also mean to wedge.
It is not a country.
I went to Carlisle this week. Did I go down English?

I’m pretty sure Scotch is not what a Scot is called. I’m pretty certain it’s the tape I keep in the box with the engineers hammer, pull ties and a balaclava for when I’m parking up near Tescos in Doncaster.

Scotch tape
Scotch whisky
Scotch egg
Scotch mist
Scotch bonnet
… can’t think of any others.

Stanley Knife:

Fridge Man:
The rates aren’t that bad when you do the math. For starters they do paid breaks.

Saturday: £10.05 per hour
Sunday: £12.43 per hour
Mon - Friday is: £7.45 per hour for first 9 then £9.57

Are you for real? You seriously believe they are good rates?

Fridge Man:
That means if I get my 15’s in over 4 days I’ll gross over £620 pw inc night out allowance. . . Averaging £9 per hour.

You can’t do four 15’s in a week. £9hr for working the weekend?! Roll up, roll up, join the queue!

Stan

Stanley Knife:
Are you for real? You seriously believe they are good rates?

I think you quoted me correctly, but somehow managed to misread it. I used the term: "The Rates aren’t that bad - didn’t say good and they are within the context of the other issues I described which you seem to have missed too.

Stanley Knife:
You can’t do four 15’s in a week.

Oh yes I can!

Stan,

You seem to have decided that you want to pick an argument with me, but it will go nowhere fast, you should realise that in my family unit, my wage is the second wage, my wife is much more highly qualified than me and earns considerably more than I would ever expect from driving trucks - she’s done as many years with the NHS as I have in a truck. My wages are there for savings and luxuries, although far from rich, we are not skint either.

I’ve been driving HGVs for over 30 years, I’ve had some jobs that had extremely good wages and some that were pretty poor. But it’s not all about the money, there are other things that matter such as the amount of time off, the condition of the kit and the level of humpy involved. RB seem to be able to tick a few boxes for me, but we’ll have to see for real when I actually start work there. I’m no optimist - very much down to earth.

Rhythm Thief:
Scotch tape
Scotch whisky
Scotch egg
Scotch mist
Scotch bonnet
… can’t think of any others.

A fella I used to work with used Scotch are a replacement for cancel:

“You can Scotch that.”

LeedsChris:
I don’t have a low or high opinion of myself regarding my job, but i do know that we are not on the same level as the previous occupations i mentioned.
Too many hgv drivers are incompetant at reversing, pulling air lines out, dropping trailers on their necks.The amount of road accidents with a lorry involved is shocking.
If a pilot, surgeon, civil engineer or gas fitter were to make the same basic mistakes day in day out, then the death rate would shoot up.These are deserving of the term professional, not your typical thick calamitious lorry driver.

Your previous post about settling for low wages as the job is easy is irrelevant as it doesn’t work that way, there are no rules that say the harder the work the higher the rate of pay, if that was the case a builder’s labourer would be on more than a city banker.
You also say you would never call yourself a professional driver, well you drive as a profession :bulb: … so you are whether you like it or not.
Even the Dicks with a licence that you refer to, that we see everyday are professional… (God help us :unamused:) , it’s their degree of professional…ISM that separates them from us.
Nobody is saying that we are on par with surgeons etc, but it is an important job and even if the public do take it for granted we should be on a bloody site more than £7 ffs.
The argument is if we were paid a decent wage, prices would go up but if that is correct it means that said prices are being subsidised on our backs, and as long as drivers share the same attitude as you towards the job :unamused: , well that’s the way it’s going to continue unfortunately.

Hope you aren’t gonna punch my MY lights out if you don’t agree with me :neutral_face:

Fridge Man:

Rhythm Thief:
Scotch tape
Scotch whisky
Scotch egg
Scotch mist
Scotch bonnet
… can’t think of any others.

A fella I used to work with used Scotch are a replacement for cancel:

“You can Scotch that.”

Scotchlocks (electrical bodge things)
Scotches (used as stillages for beer barrels and the like)

Rhythm Thief:

Fridge Man:

Rhythm Thief:
Scotch tape
Scotch whisky
Scotch egg
Scotch mist
Scotch bonnet
… can’t think of any others.

A fella I used to work with used Scotch are a replacement for cancel:

“You can Scotch that.”

Scotchlocks (electrical bodge things)
Scotches (used as stillages for beer barrels and the like)

Still looks like nobody cares bud! :neutral_face:

Winseer:
Are we finally getting to see some proper market forces taking effect here? :open_mouth: :slight_smile:

A lot of the skip and tipper firms round our way have upped wages as works picked the last few months.

Rhythm Thief:
Scotch tape
Scotch whisky
Scotch egg
Scotch mist
Scotch bonnet
… can’t think of any others.

Scotch corner turn left keep going and you end up in jockland :wink: