This story relates to the Tory party discussing the possible ban on long haul livestock movements and that all live stock will have to go to the nearest abattoir to the farm for slaughter. It won’t do much for the long haul hauliers that do movements for a living.
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- … s-49862546
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Some things just need to come to an end, the world for example will be a much better place to live in with the cessation of coal power generation which means the end of coal mining too. None of the North Sea ferry companies will take livestock loads from the UK to mainland Europe that are for fattening or slaughter any more, the last company who did ceasing to do so several months ago.
Can’t see a problem with, exporting animals abroad for slaughter, no difference to transporting horses around for people to race and event them.
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Can’t see a problem with, exporting animals abroad for slaughter, no difference to transporting horses around for people to race and event them.
Possibly the steers have more of a hunch of their ultimate fate maybe.There really should be a radical,less barbaric answer to abatoirs here and abroad…Maybe a mobile farm to farm set-up that slowly knocks them out rather than the hideous preamble they endure prior to the stun 
A lot of small abattoir have closed due to new rules and I think they have to have a vet in attendance as well which costs. This can be spread more if it is a large concern but if only a small business it ups the cost per animal. Like everything in life it’s down to money.
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Can’t see a problem with, exporting animals abroad for slaughter, no difference to transporting horses around for people to race and event them.
Cattle are about £3 a kilo? Half a ton? So a cow is worth £1500? And no much cares if it has a hard time and gets upset in transit. There are rules of course, and Im not saying all livestock hauliers are evil! A sporting horse, one that is worth moving around, is worth many thousands of quid and it is important that its pampered to perform well after its trip.
Not really likely to get the same treatment.
They will just do as they are doing now ship them out to Northern Ireland then move them out to Europe via Dublin/Rosslare - Cherbourg a classic case of the law of unintended consequences, close routes down and the animals end up travelling for longer distances.
manalishi:
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Can’t see a problem with, exporting animals abroad for slaughter, no difference to transporting horses around for people to race and event them.Possibly the steers have more of a hunch of their ultimate fate maybe.There really should be a radical,less barbaric answer to abatoirs here and abroad…Maybe a mobile farm to farm set-up that slowly knocks them out rather than the hideous preamble they endure prior to the stun
I remember many years ago a design that was a portable abattoir…two 40ft artic trailers a bit like those mobile clinics you see at hospitals (only obviously different).
The idea was you could put it into a farm and do the deed without having to transport the animals. I don’t think they ever built it though.
I must say I wasn’t too sorry when most of the cattlemarkets closed post foot&mouth.
Wow didn’t know that,excellent idea surely due for a renaissance.
Long distance here means travelling in trailers for hundreds of miles, then put on ships bound for the middle east where they’re slaughtered halal style… read bloody barbaric. I’m one of those that think live export shouldn’t be happening.
peterm:
Long distance here means travelling in trailers for hundreds of miles, then put on ships bound for the middle east where they’re slaughtered halal style… read bloody barbaric. I’m one of those that think live export shouldn’t be happening.
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+1 there.
ive been in and out of a few slaughterhouses and sometimes the beasts def know whats about to happen…pigs seem to be more switched on for some reason.
they can move them slaughtered easier after topping them locally and save a lot of inhumane practices.
theres always the bonus of being able to load them hanging on top of 20 ton of steel plate on the floor again… 
More work for the fridge boys then.
Mazzer2:
They will just do as they are doing now ship them out to Northern Ireland then move them out to Europe via Dublin/Rosslare - Cherbourg a classic case of the law of unintended consequences, close routes down and the animals end up travelling for longer distances.
Not so much unintended consequences, more clueless idiots interfering with industries they haven’t a clue about.
That also means the carrying of carcasses as we used to do, with blood spattered trailers that cant get washed properly, then get rejected for the return load…ha ha
dieseldog999:
peterm:
Long distance here means travelling in trailers for hundreds of miles, then put on ships bound for the middle east where they’re slaughtered halal style… read bloody barbaric. I’m one of those that think live export shouldn’t be happening.^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+1 there.
ive been in and out of a few slaughterhouses and sometimes the beasts def know whats about to happen…pigs seem to be more switched on for some reason.
they can move them slaughtered easier after topping them locally and save a lot of inhumane practices.
theres always the bonus of being able to load them hanging on top of 20 ton of steel plate on the floor again…
Pigs deffo now what is happening park outside any abattoir that slaughters pigs and listen to the squealing of the waiting pigs, had my daughter with me when I went to do a collection from an abattoir in Denmark put her off bacon………………………… for all of two weeks
I’ve heard it said, (No idea if it’s true) that more people give up vegetarianism after smelling frying bacon, then anything else?
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One of my nieces gave up lamb after her brother picked up the leg of lamb on the meat dish, after it was was carved, and showed her how the “little lamb’s lnee” worked.
I’ve heard it said, (No idea if it’s true) that more people give up vegetarianism after smelling frying bacon, then anything else?
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One of my nieces gave up lamb after her brother picked up the leg of lamb on the meat dish, after it was was carved, and showed her how the "little lamb’s knee " worked.
mary had a little lamb,
her daddy killed it dead,
now it goes to school with her,
between 2 slices of bread…
…that was one nursery rhyme that didnt go down to well at the school play for me. 
Straight question.
If animals are going for slaughter, why export them live rather than as carcasses?
Isn’t there an advantage to only ship out the cuts that a market wants?
Slaughter and butcher the animal here, so it’s cuts can be sent to the markets wanting them? (Apparently different places pay more for different “bits” of animals?)
I’ve got a rotten signal here, so thanks in advance for answers.
Franglais:
Straight question.
If animals are going for slaughter, why export them live rather than as carcasses?Isn’t there an advantage to only ship out the cuts that a market wants?
Slaughter and butcher the animal here, so it’s cuts can be sent to the markets wanting them? (Apparently different places pay more for different “bits” of animals?)I’ve got a rotten signal here, so thanks in advance for answers.
A lot of the animals that are exported live from Ireland are for breeding and are used to set up herds in the countries that they go to, Turkey and North Africa are big markets for live cattle