toby1234abc:
Started with BI around 1991 , it was Peter Taplin in the office , the drivers referred to him as the poisoned dwarf , he could be a tad rude to your face and over the phone .
For some odd reason , they charged owner drivers £75 per month for a so called insurance , but we all had goods in transit insurance , so this is similar to the stones in the sacks .
Tim had a yacht , and would sail to his Porto office , but the Bay of Biscay is not for the faint hearted . That office was ran by Manuela de Caldevieria , known to us all as the witch , her husband owned a shoe business , and for a few pennies , drivers could use the showers in the fire station next door .
You may remember the BI step frame super jumbo trailers , full to the roof with groupage .At one time , didn’t they have about 800 Iveco Turbostars on the road ? They paid on time , on port to port from any French port traction to Lisbon ,reload Porto was about £1950 , nothing for on wheels collections , that could take days and be all over mountain villages .
Even worse , cargo I collected would sometimes go on a Portuguese hauliers trailer and not a BI trailer .
800 Turbo Stars? Really?
Are you sure it wasn’t 20?
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VERY busy ones?
Hi Franglais
BI had only 3 Turbostars all the rest were Turbotecs, Dafs, Renaults, Transcons and one Mercedes
Regards Kev
Just had a long phone chat with Scorey P. 22771706…who is in good spirits , but unable to get around too well due to Arthritis in his ankles…
We done quite a few trips and had many laughs in the last hour, he sends his regards to all who remember him, especially BUZZER.
Pat has arthritis in his ankles?
Nowt to do with a draft from wearing clogs?
Obviously having a neat pullover draped over his shoulders will have prevented any ailment to his upper arms!
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Glad to hear he`s mostly well.
No buzzer with the money i spent in the bar over the year’s it was a very expensive glass. (that’s my explanation officer.) and i do know a good lawyer/barrister in west wellow.
Rumblings from the caucuses:
The August Bash.
Yes there were mumblings last year about relocating due to the distinct lack of enthusiasm by our host.
HOWEVER, having thought about it, how ungrateful he seems, we would enter into a 2 venue bash that would not be any good for anyone.
We’ve got ourselves into a rut but I’m sure we can overlook his indifference and enjoy ourselves.
I will be going to Shedfield, mask and all
gazzer:
Rumblings from the caucuses:
The August Bash.
Yes there were mumblings last year about relocating due to the distinct lack of enthusiasm by our host.
HOWEVER, having thought about it, how ungrateful he seems, we would enter into a 2 venue bash that would not be any good for anyone.
We’ve got ourselves into a rut but I’m sure we can overlook his indifference and enjoy ourselves.
I will be going to Shedfield, mask and all
So Gazzer you want to rumble on in your old Atkinson with a 180 Gardener but I would like to overtake you in m y brand new 240 Volvo F88 time for change methinks, shall we have a vote on the subject. It is a bit like when you used to have a night out in Wales when the conversation changes from English to Welsh when you walk in the pub for a pint in the evening, or is it just me air your views here maybe it is time for change, Buzzer.
gerbil sb152:
No buzzer with the money i spent in the bar over the year’s it was a very expensive glass. (that’s my explanation officer.) and i do know a good lawyer/barrister in west wellow.
Hi Kev,
Hope you and Jan are well, if you are having a clear out Jan can always come and live with us !! Regarding the glass if you have any problems let me know and I will sort it out,I well remember Steve who worked behind the bar on the Townsend boats would always give Angie and I money from the till to go into the duty free shop and get him a selection of spirits which he would put on the optics and sell, the girls in the shop were in on it as well,couldn’t do it now with all the computers, one of John’s Mary Hopkins moments.
One of my cases at the moment involves trying to find the driver of the truck in the photo, as Interpol are interested in speaking to him regarding some missing items in France.
toby1234abc:
Buzzer ,I used to be an owner driver for Tim Alan ,with British International , did the accounting dilemma have something to do with Public Benefit Coal ? I never met Frank .
The photo of the R&G wagon looks like the National 1 near Leiria ,between Lisbon and Porto . A terrible road with Kamikaze drivers full of triple espressos .
Cascais near Lisbon was my favourite place to be weekended , drop the trailer in Alverca TIR park ,bob tail to the beach .
Toby I worked for Franky Allen as my first International job it was PBC then but Frank was a bit of a cheapskate, allegedly when he was on the coal he got done for underweight sacks, he had several big rounded sea stones and used to put one in the bottom of the bag before filling and the retrieving it when tipped out into some unsuspecting bunker, if any one said ought he said it was a weight to stop the empty bags blowing away maybe true maybe not.
Of course it went on to be British International then Cabmont (Cables Montague) from Belvidere bought it out, Franky was my immediate neighbour up till about eight years ago and think he has scuttled off to France now and think that’s where Tim is as well. Do you remember Tinker in the office or was he gone by then ? Cheers Buzzer.
Buzzer, As you are aware I was with PBC from the early 60s until 1973, some of the above is correct which makes me think I should write a book and put everyone straight. PM me please. stroker. Ps, Tinker was a bricklayer by trade.
Public Benefit Coal Co Ltd was built on scrap out & coal back. They had a small area in the station yard in Hound Lane Netley. S & M Tidy from Brighton based several Scammell articulated tankers in the same yard which were on contract to Shell Mex & BP Ltd at Hamble. I seeem to recollect PBC having 2 or 3 lorries in station yd (1961). By 1963,they had moved to Portsmouth Rd & at operated 2 x 8 wheelers (Foden FE’s IIRC) as well as smaller tippers and a flat. Main traffics outward seemed to be scrap (for Beales & Eastleigh Metals) & Mining timber from RF Giddings at Bartley . return loads mainly of coal .
The first PBC artic which I can recollect was a cut down Foden FE in 1968(?) Spirit or Ghost of DOT ?
Perhaps Stroker you can confirm or add to PBC’s early days
Roolechat
Public Benefit Coal Coal Company ltd, were very successful retail merchants in the Southampton area,but it was a little known fact that they were coal factors purchasing direct from the National Coal Board and re-selling bulk loads to coal merchants along the south coast and Isle of Wight.
Outward loads consisted of all types of scrap metal,mining timber, glass cullet, & foundry sand. Deliveries points were throughout South Wales, The Black Country, Nottingham,Derby, Rotherham,Sheffield & Barnsley , with an expected minimum of 3 return trips per week.
Vehicles used were 2 Foden S20 Mk3 two strokes(mine was 156 DOT named Southampton Prince) the other was Southampton Maid, next was Foden Mk 6 two stroke Southampton Queen, all 8 wheelers, Commer two stroke 6 wheeler,& 2 6 wheeler Ford traders,with the names Dopey & Pinky.
The first artic you mention was the remains of Foden S20 156 DOT which was written off in a tragic accident on the M1 southbound just north of Leicester Forrest services whilst being towed in by heavy recovery due to engine problem.
The vehicle was rebuilt in PBC workshops by Edward Garrus (RIP ) with plans and guidance by Foden Motors Sandbach. She re-emerged as a twin steer unit with a Gardner 150 installed & re-named Ghost of Dot.
Thereafter a new Quay 12 metre tilt was purchased and away she went on her maiden to Clermont Ferrand with 20 tons of rubber, with John Stobbart in
command.
Regards, stroker 156 DOT
Stroker 156 DOT:
Roolechat
Public Benefit Coal Coal Company ltd, were very successful retail merchants in the Southampton area,but it was a little known fact that they were coal factors purchasing direct from the National Coal Board and re-selling bulk loads to coal merchants along the south coast and Isle of Wight.
Outward loads consisted of all types of scrap metal,mining timber, glass cullet, & foundry sand. Deliveries points were throughout South Wales, The Black Country, Nottingham,Derby, Rotherham,Sheffield & Barnsley , with an expected minimum of 3 return trips per week.
Vehicles used were 2 Foden S20 Mk3 two strokes(mine was 156 DOT named Southampton Prince) the other was Southampton Maid, next was Foden Mk 6 two stroke Southampton Queen, all 8 wheelers, Commer two stroke 6 wheeler,& 2 6 wheeler Ford traders,with the names Dopey & Pinky.
The first artic you mention was the remains of Foden S20 156 DOT which was written off in a tragic accident on the M1 southbound just north of Leicester Forrest services whilst being towed in by heavy recovery due to engine problem.
The vehicle was rebuilt in PBC workshops by Edward Garrus (RIP ) with plans and guidance by Foden Motors Sandbach. She re-emerged as a twin steer unit with a Gardner 150 installed & re-named Ghost of Dot.
Thereafter a new Quay 12 metre tilt was purchased and away she went on her maiden to Clermont Ferrand with 20 tons of rubber, with John Stobbart in
command.
Regards, stroker 156 DOT
Hi stroker 156DOT I sent you a PM the day, by the way I always thought your internet name was because you had some association with a DOT motorcycle but I was wrong on that one, Buzzer
Stroker 156 DOT:
Roolechat
Public Benefit Coal Coal Company ltd, were very successful retail merchants in the Southampton area,but it was a little known fact that they were coal factors purchasing direct from the National Coal Board and re-selling bulk loads to coal merchants along the south coast and Isle of Wight.
Outward loads consisted of all types of scrap metal,mining timber, glass cullet, & foundry sand. Deliveries points were throughout South Wales, The Black Country, Nottingham,Derby, Rotherham,Sheffield & Barnsley , with an expected minimum of 3 return trips per week.
Vehicles used were 2 Foden S20 Mk3 two strokes(mine was 156 DOT named Southampton Prince) the other was Southampton Maid, next was Foden Mk 6 two stroke Southampton Queen, all 8 wheelers, Commer two stroke 6 wheeler,& 2 6 wheeler Ford traders,with the names Dopey & Pinky.
The first artic you mention was the remains of Foden S20 156 DOT which was written off in a tragic accident on the M1 southbound just north of Leicester Forrest services whilst being towed in by heavy recovery due to engine problem.
The vehicle was rebuilt in PBC workshops by Edward Garrus (RIP ) with plans and guidance by Foden Motors Sandbach. She re-emerged as a twin steer unit with a Gardner 150 installed & re-named Ghost of Dot.
Thereafter a new Quay 12 metre tilt was purchased and away she went on her maiden to Clermont Ferrand with 20 tons of rubber, with John Stobbart in
command.
Regards, stroker 156 DOT
Hi stroker 156DOT I sent you a PM the day, by the way I always thought your internet name was because you had some association with a DOT motorcycle but I was wrong on that one, Buzzer
Buzzer, No connection with the bikes, although I scrambled from 1956 for years on Dots,Cottons, semi works Enfields & factory Parilla’s, perfect training for induction into PBC. Sorry I have missed your PM, Regards,stroker.
