And not a Soton company, not taken in Soton, and not Soton drivers…but anyway
Hi all, as you say Franglais a few very recognizable faces there and more than one a bit of a character. Mr Ford,Mr Barter Mr Tutt,
Mr ( what did you say ) Pragnell Nd who could forget Mr Smith. I take it that was a bit of a BKG gathering. 
gerbil sb152:
Hi all, as you say Franglais a few very recognizable faces there and more than one a bit of a character. Mr Ford,Mr Barter Mr Tutt,
Mr ( what did you say ) Pragnell Nd who could forget Mr Smith. I take it that was a bit of a BKG gathering.
Three of those drove at DIT at some stage Mr Barter being the odd one out, back then drivers rotated almost weekly to different firms jack in Friday ship out for someone else on Sunday.
gerbil sb152:
Hi all, as you say Franglais a few very recognizable faces there and more than one a bit of a character. Mr Ford,Mr Barter Mr Tutt,
Mr ( what did you say ) Pragnell Nd who could forget Mr Smith. I take it that was a bit of a BKG gathering.
I make your rollcall correct. A few other characters there I think, but they avoided the camera clearly. (Too well brought up to be caught with such villians!)
Christmas at Romsey, if I remember correctly. White Horse Hotel? Good do, but after…an incident… we had to book somewhere else the following year…
Buzzer:
gerbil sb152:
Hi all, as you say Franglais a few very recognizable faces there and more than one a bit of a character. Mr Ford,Mr Barter Mr Tutt,
Mr ( what did you say ) Pragnell Nd who could forget Mr Smith. I take it that was a bit of a BKG gathering.Three of those drove at DIT at some stage Mr Barter being the odd one out, back then drivers rotated almost weekly to different firms jack in Friday ship out for someone else on Sunday.
White truck with a blue stripe.
White truck with a green stripe.
White truck with a red stripe.
White truck with a (different shade of) blue stripe.
And maybe a blue truck with a white stripe, or two tone blue?
I knew some of them worked for you Buzzer. Did Phil P?
Phil was in the yard one day talking to Roy Gover:
“Tell you what Roy, Im stopping all these silly petty fiddles on the DKV" "Glad to hear it Phil" "Yep, Im just gonna do one big plus every trip”
Franglais:
And not a Soton company, not taken in Soton, and not Soton drivers…but anyway
I recognise those faces! They were truck washers and port mechanics. And the lorry I recognise too. That picture was taken in the old Tangiers docks. The bloke who ran Ashford Transport was an ex-Middle-Easter whose name escapes for the moment - good bloke, very level-headed. Used to pull for Davies Turner on Morocco work IIRC.
ERF-NGC-European:
Franglais:
And not a Soton company, not taken in Soton, and not Soton drivers…but anywayI recognise those faces! They were truck washers and port mechanics. And the lorry I recognise too. That picture was taken in the old Tangiers docks. The bloke who ran Ashford Transport was an ex-Middle-Easter whose name escapes for the moment - good bloke, very level-headed. Used to pull for Davies Turner on Morocco work IIRC.
Was the guy in the green shirt was called “FishnChips”? Used to get the palmtree/camel nameplates made up. And I guess the panels on that truck were done there too?
I remember a mechanic recharging an air-con system in a truck whilst awaiting clearance.
I`ll look out some more pics maybe.
Hi all, the guy with no shirt look’s at lot like Kev Andrews AKA biggles he works for Fraiser Freight in Portsmouth now. The earlier picture of 4 sat in chair’s was the one on the right with his back slightly toward’s us a certain Yannick could be wrong but it look’s like him.
That last pic looks like the import compound in Tangier docks, with the police building in the background.
ERF-NGC-European:
That last pic looks like the import compound in Tangier docks, with the police building in the background.
Yep Tangier compound. And your truck washers in action earlier. [emoji3]
gerbil sb152:
Hi all, the guy with no shirt look’s at lot like Kev Andrews AKA biggles he works for Fraiser Freight in Portsmouth now. The earlier picture of 4 sat in chair’s was the one on the right with his back slightly toward’s us a certain Yannick could be wrong but it look’s like him.
Yep, buying loads of leather belts to sell on back in UK. Him in shop too, with a Romanian driver.
Sitting by trailer- Tony and Roy (BKG) and Ian and Steve (R&G).
Cabmont were in Franky Alans yard in Sholing after he sold out to them on allegedly a cooked set of accounts and a good few Southampton men drove for them, Buzzer
Buzzer ,I used to be an owner driver for Tim Alan ,with British International , did the accounting dilemma have something to do with Public Benefit Coal ? I never met Frank .
The photo of the R&G wagon looks like the National 1 near Leiria ,between Lisbon and Porto . A terrible road with Kamikaze drivers full of triple espressos .
Cascais near Lisbon was my favourite place to be weekended , drop the trailer in Alverca TIR park ,bob tail to the beach .
toby1234abc:
Buzzer ,I used to be an owner driver for Tim Alan ,with British International , did the accounting dilemma have something to do with Public Benefit Coal ? I never met Frank .
The photo of the R&G wagon looks like the National 1 near Leiria ,between Lisbon and Porto . A terrible road with Kamikaze drivers full of triple espressos .
Cascais near Lisbon was my favourite place to be weekended , drop the trailer in Alverca TIR park ,bob tail to the beach .
Toby I worked for Franky Allen as my first International job it was PBC then but Frank was a bit of a cheapskate, allegedly when he was on the coal he got done for underweight sacks, he had several big rounded sea stones and used to put one in the bottom of the bag before filling and the retrieving it when tipped out into some unsuspecting bunker, if any one said ought he said it was a weight to stop the empty bags blowing away maybe true maybe not.
Of course it went on to be British International then Cabmont (Cables Montague) from Belvidere bought it out, Franky was my immediate neighbour up till about eight years ago and think he has scuttled off to France now and think that’s where Tim is as well. Do you remember Tinker in the office or was he gone by then ? Cheers Buzzer.
Buzzer:
toby1234abc:
Buzzer ,I used to be an owner driver for Tim Alan ,with British International , did the accounting dilemma have something to do with Public Benefit Coal ? I never met Frank .
The photo of the R&G wagon looks like the National 1 near Leiria ,between Lisbon and Porto . A terrible road with Kamikaze drivers full of triple espressos .
Cascais near Lisbon was my favourite place to be weekended , drop the trailer in Alverca TIR park ,bob tail to the beach .Toby I worked for Franky Allen as my first International job it was PBC then but Frank was a bit of a cheapskate, allegedly when he was on the coal he got done for underweight sacks, he had several big rounded sea stones and used to put one in the bottom of the bag before filling and the retrieving it when tipped out into some unsuspecting bunker, if any one said ought he said it was a weight to stop the empty bags blowing away maybe true maybe not.
Of course it went on to be British International then Cabmont (Cables Montague) from Belvidere bought it out, Franky was my immediate neighbour up till about eight years ago and think he has scuttled off to France now and think that’s where Tim is as well. Do you remember Tinker in the office or was he gone by then ? Cheers Buzzer.
Buzzer, As you are aware I was with PBC from the early 60s until 1973, some of the above is correct which makes me think I should write a book and put everyone straight. PM me please. stroker. Ps, Tinker was a bricklayer by trade.
Started with BI around 1991 , it was Peter Taplin in the office , the drivers referred to him as the poisoned dwarf , he could be a tad rude to your face and over the phone .
For some odd reason , they charged owner drivers £75 per month for a so called insurance , but we all had goods in transit insurance , so this is similar to the stones in the sacks .
Tim had a yacht , and would sail to his Porto office , but the Bay of Biscay is not for the faint hearted . That office was ran by Manuela de Caldevieria , known to us all as the witch , her husband owned a shoe business , and for a few pennies , drivers could use the showers in the fire station next door .
You may remember the BI step frame super jumbo trailers , full to the roof with groupage .At one time , didn’t they have about 800 Iveco Turbostars on the road ? They paid on time , on port to port from any French port traction to Lisbon ,reload Porto was about £1950 , nothing for on wheels collections , that could take days and be all over mountain villages .
Even worse , cargo I collected would sometimes go on a Portuguese hauliers trailer and not a BI trailer .
toby1234abc:
Started with BI around 1991 , it was Peter Taplin in the office , the drivers referred to him as the poisoned dwarf , he could be a tad rude to your face and over the phone .
For some odd reason , they charged owner drivers £75 per month for a so called insurance , but we all had goods in transit insurance , so this is similar to the stones in the sacks .Tim had a yacht , and would sail to his Porto office , but the Bay of Biscay is not for the faint hearted . That office was ran by Manuela de Caldevieria , known to us all as the witch , her husband owned a shoe business , and for a few pennies , drivers could use the showers in the fire station next door .
You may remember the BI step frame super jumbo trailers , full to the roof with groupage .At one time , didn’t they have about 800 Iveco Turbostars on the road ? They paid on time , on port to port from any French port traction to Lisbon ,reload Porto was about £1950 , nothing for on wheels collections , that could take days and be all over mountain villages .
Even worse , cargo I collected would sometimes go on a Portuguese hauliers trailer and not a BI trailer .
800 Turbo Stars? Really?
Are you sure it wasn’t 20?
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VERY busy ones?
Suppose this is suitable for this thread as David Lailey were from near Arlesford but did traction for various companies in Southampton over the years, primarily of course they dealt in agricultural machinery with the main focus on tractors for export. Going back in the day if there was a farm dispersal sale any where in the area you would be hard pressed to outbid David Laily and he nearly always got the winning bid, also into heavy horses he once came to buy a tip cart and set of heavy horse harness from me, twas a Saturday morning and he turned up with an old rain coat on and looked a bit like a tramp £1000 was the price but as always he wanted a deal think in the end he had £20 luck money from me but that was it, he reluctantly paid me but I know he had a good deal.
Ran all sorts in regard to trucks and I once bought an old crashed Volvo F88 from him for breaking & donor parts, cheers Buzzer.
