Another two deaths today in Hackney, this one news.sky.com/story/man-in-his-2 … g-11317084 and another earlierthis evening.
Pete.
Said on the radio,there had already been 47 murders in the capitol this year.
Guess it’s 49 now.
pierrot 14:
truckman020:
might sound harsh and unfeeling but I couldn’t give a ■■■■,if they want to shoot/stab each other over postcode territory,let them get on with itAgree 100% with you truckman, but my point was about the safety for “others” other children especially. I don’t know where you live or if you have kids, but let’s just say it’s in a suburb of the capital, your children are out having a good time:::
park with friends, shopping with school mates, down the pub with college/work mates, as I said wrong place wrong time, it all goes off in one of these stupid gang land tiffs and … one of yours is hurt .
Isn’t that what happened to a poor innocent boy in Liverpool quite some time ago??
yes I see your point as regards the innocents,example was the young girl who was shot by a drive by shooting,that was such a shame,16 yrs old and those scum took her life because as you said ‘‘wrong place wrong time’’ and they boasted about it on social media.
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Juddian:
Safe for now for most areas, particularly those where the wealthy live, and that goes for every area of this country.Time will tell how bad it gets, what has been sown for many years is now being reaped why is anyone surprised, those with the means to have got out of the worse affected districts, its those poor sods left who can’t escape or who stubbornly want to see their days out in what they might once have called home i feel sorry for.
But then the real working class left behind have only ever counted at two moments in time, 1 when the elites call a war and need cannon fodder (good old Tommies, fine chaps you know what) and 2 when votes are required, rest of the time the elites wouldn’t ■■■■ on the working class if they were on fire.
Would i go for a stroll in the ‘enchanting’ areas of the dump, especially at night?, not on your nelly, and you couldn’t pay me enough to live in the crap hole, best thing about hell is the M1 northbound.
Trouble is when a toilet is full, the crap starts to leak out, its starting to appear in Luton and MK, stevenage,
it’s always been in the craphole known as luton
I have been listening to the news reports on BBC and am quite frankly shocked. What the heck has happened to my beloved England ? When I lived there one murder a year in London bought major headlines, this year London has surpassed NYC and Detroit for murders 
I blame the influx of immigrants from eastern Europe and the [zb] migrants creeping over from Calais. For the sake of the whole country you all need to make sure Corbyn never gets into power, if he does it will get much worse.
Pat Hasler:
I have been listening to the news reports on BBC and am quite frankly shocked. What the heck has happened to my beloved England ? When I lived there one murder a year in London bought major headlines, this year London has surpassed NYC and Detroit for murders
I blame the influx of immigrants from eastern Europe and the [zb] migrants creeping over from Calais. For the sake of the whole country you all need to make sure Corbyn never gets into power, if he does it will get much worse.
To be fair ‘London’ ceased to qualify as ‘beloved England’ well before the iron curtain came down.Here’s a clue it ain’t happening in Dorking or Ripon or Windermere or Truro just as they are using NYC as the relevant comparison with London not Auburn or Aurora or Montezuma.The common denominator being the same in all cases. 
Lived in London and now just outside all my life unless you are a black teenage boy it’s no more dangerous than any city in the world
Pat Hasler:
I have been listening to the news reports on BBC and am quite frankly shocked. What the heck has happened to my beloved England ? When I lived there one murder a year in London bought major headlines, this year London has surpassed NYC and Detroit for murders
I blame the influx of immigrants from eastern Europe and the [zb] migrants creeping over from Calais. For the sake of the whole country you all need to make sure Corbyn never gets into power, if he does it will get much worse.
Remind us, how long have you lived in the ‘good old US of A’ now? And is your stay there temporary, and were you planning on returning to your “beloved” England?
Nothing worse than ‘ex-pats’ who moved away years ago, blathering on about the "beloved home country "…
Fun fact. A large amount of ‘leave’ votes came from expats who have not lived in the uk for many years, and have no intention of ever returning…
When I was a nipper,I was “scared” of my parents,my teachers,the parky,local bobby,my mate’s parents,the librarian,the local shopkeepers etc.etc…they were all in a position to give me grief if I misbehaved 
Not so today…this country is going down the pan big time I’m glad that I’m going out,and not coming in
Pat Hasler:
I have been listening to the news reports on BBC and am quite frankly shocked. What the heck has happened to my beloved England ? When I lived there one murder a year in London bought major headlines, this year London has surpassed NYC and Detroit for murders
I blame the influx of immigrants from eastern Europe and the [zb] migrants creeping over from Calais. For the sake of the whole country you all need to make sure Corbyn never gets into power, if he does it will get much worse.
The BBC is probably the very last place to find the truth about anything to do with the country, its biased and has been for at least 40 years and has become the propaganda arm of the lefties who now rule most of the establishment.
However, everything changed when a certain Tony Blair was fast tracked through to take the lead of the Labour Party (amazing really when he hated old Labour with a passion), changing it into the New Labour trotskyist movement, well supported by other closet communists at his side.
They had an agenda, which was to change the country, which they despise, forever, and they have succeeded.
The big con was the idea that blair was some sort of right wing labour crusader, this could not be further from the truth.
People now talk about the failed multicultural experiment, which was a big part of the blair revolution, but you have to remember that for at least 15 years it was dangerous to even suggest this destruction of the values of Britain and what it means to be British was wrong, you would be vilified, you would lose your job at the very least, and if you dared to speak out like Tommy Robinson has about another aspect of the destruction of Britain, the powers that be using the police and courts (officially, though they make use of the armies of brainwashed useful idiots all the time) will actually try to have you killed, using the very people he has warned about for many years now.
In some ways its now more dangerous than ever to say the wrong thing or think the wrong thoughts, thoughts that are not approved by the armies of blairites, because they have upped the anti to destroy freedom of speech completely, and don’t for one minute think its going to stop there, in due course (hopefully when i’m dead) they’ll be inserting chips into the heads of children, the excuse being terrorism, and peoples very thoughts will be monitored, and when necessary they’ll simply hit the delete button.
Of course blair wasn’t alone in this, it started long before with traitors like Heath, and continued with a certain Thatcher overseeing the destruction of our manufacturing base…mainly because the working class natives of the country were united and too strong, and she was one clever cookie in the war of divide and rule.
Since the blair years of the destruction of the Britain we’ve had 2 blair clones as PM’s, we can more or less ignore Gordon Brown because the poor sod was left holding the baby, though to be fair he refused to take us into the Euro what all around wanted this, in some ways he’s proved to be an unsung but late to the party hero.
The 2 PM’s i’m referring to are Cameron and now May, neither of which have a single Conservative bone in their bodies, both europhiles, both having the same hatred of old Britain as blair and his cronies.
The above have proved themselves time and again as being against this country and what it was, yes it had its faults, but compared to now i grew up in a Jerusalem.
One must not forget though, that the electorate must take their share of what has happened, time after time the above have proved they are not worthy to be the leaders of these fine islands, yet every time the electorate dutifully trot off and vote for more of the same, turkeys voting for Christmas.
The biggest problem with the British electorate is they listen to the radio and watch the idiot box in the corner and think they’re being told the truth, especially by the BBC, both media are sources of propaganda that tyrants over the ages would have killed for, we have generations of people now who have lost the ability to think for themselves, they will not question what they are being told.
Mainstream media just the same.
Odd isn’t it, how despite almost no one buying the printed press and if they are reading newspapers its increasingly online and free…well why haven’t these media sources gone bust, that’s a most interesting question.
Pat, it’s almost over for Britain, all that’s left is to write the eulogy and obituaries, which will be lies too and still be swallowed hook line and sinker by a brainwashed populace.
Though there are many people out there who know the truth, have seen it coming with their own eyes, but keep quiet and for their own survival do what they need to, ie those that can afford to get away from the worse affected areas, but don’t say aloud the reasons they have done so…escape to the country might cover it.
What they tried to escape from will eventually catch up with them of course, it will certainly affect their offspring and generations down the line.
Over in the USA the electorate had the very good sense to elect a non politician as President, i hope and pray Trump gets a second term, true freedom in western land is not all lost yet.
What amazes me is that no one ever asked us, the people of the country, if we wanted our country changed as it has been, and people have meekly accepted it happening.
I just think people should be a bit more angry than they are that their country has been stolen, that’s all.
I love London and feel perfectly safe there as I do not fit into the “profile” of the victims!
So far, it seems like a storm in a teacup to me. Bad news for those involved of course, but 3 months is hardly a base to see any trend.
It could be the start of a really bad year for violence in London, or it could be a blip that will even out a bit come the year`s end.
Do you want to look at the base figures or just the “cherry picked” bits selected by the papers? Read just the headlines and youll only get those facts "chosen" for you by the writer. Homicide rates are normally given annually to even out blips and dips. Imagine if they were given monthly? 19 murders in March would equate to about 230 deaths in the year. Weekly? Third week of March had 8 murders, so that could mean 400 by the years end.
Is anybody saying that is likely? I dont think so. So although an increase in one quarters figures is worrying it`s no reason to panic.
Quarterly figures are good for headline writers, but not for representing a true picture of the way things are.
Are any of those deaths related? Is it a spate of revenge killings? Innocent bystanders falling victim as well as the targets. If so we can expect some end to it soon hopefully.
If anyone wants to see it there are some interesting figures out there giving Homicide Rates for the UK by year, London by year, and comparing the UK with other countries. ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation … gmarch2017
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c … icide_rate
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_London
As with all figures it takes time to find out how they are gathered, what different countries do/don`t count etc.
EDIT. If the pattern continues, about 50 homicides in the first three months, it means a return to the dark past of 2003 when there were over 200 homicides in London. Not good clearly, but is it really that bad?
EDIT.2. Re New York: similar population to London. Some papers saying (truthfully) the first qtr of this yr has a lower homicide count. The lowest annual count in NY since 1920 was 290 in 2017. London hasn`t had even 200 any yr since 1990. Again papers picking a story from very little evidence.