The limp wristed leftys have caused alot of problems for our police and to parenting in general, no more getting a slap for playing up in front of the local Bobby or after helping yourself to a few sherberts dib-dabs at the corner shop. [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]
The yoofs of today know you can’t do sod all to them without being hammered by the authorities.
As for feeling safe in London, yep I do and like somebody has said it’s no different to hundreds of big multi cultural cities across the world.
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del trotter:
pierrot 14:
And the bit in bold, plenty of places that have had shootings/stabbings
and where was my logic about never going to supermarkets in France, we weren’t talking about fanatics anyway, just nasty horrible children that want to kill each other!
We are talking about risk, unless you have some agenda you haven’t told us about.You have an impression that London is full of wild gangs roaming the streets shooting at each other like it was the wild west when the reality is very different. I presume that if you weren’t in France you would be advocating avoiding it due to the large number of terrorists who reside there?
Oh and there aren’t any terrorists in England are there ■■ 
My OP was asking about peoples thoughts on safety in London after the tragic incidents over the Easter weekend, that was on the news this evening .
unless you have some agenda you haven’t told us about
and WTF are you on about here, why would I have some sort of agenda ■■?
And yes London is London is full of wild gangs roaming the streets shooting at each other like it was the wild west to quote you
pierrot 14:
And yes London is London is full of wild gangs roaming the streets shooting at each other like it was the wild west to quote you
As is Toulouse, Lille and Paris it would appear, no doubt you would refuse to go to any of these cities
rt.com/news/395188-toulouse … -shooting/
rferl.org/a/azerbaijani-wom … 36647.html
thesun.co.uk/news/3174784/t … ench-city/
theguardian.com/world/2017/ … ue-reports
Captain Caveman 76:
Wheel Nut:
Parenting could solve most of these stabbing and shootings, if you let kids do as they like from 8 or 9 years of age and haven’t got a clue where they are at night,
Who do you think has most influence over kids? Their parents or their peers?
I think parents tbh. Children are very much “monkey see, monkey do” and I strongly believe that the formative years are between 3 and around 9 years old. If you can fill a young child’s life with love and laughter you’ve already instilled a sense of self worth and values into that small child. I’m not denying the influence of peer pressure at all, but I’m saying that a teenager who has been brought up in a loving household and ends up going off the rails due to peer pressure understands at a basic level that what they are doing is wrong, as opposed to the kid that was dragged up with no parental guidance and sees nothing wrong with being feral.
del trotter:
pierrot 14:
And yes London is London is full of wild gangs roaming the streets shooting at each other like it was the wild west to quote you
As is Toulouse, Lille and Paris it would appear, no doubt you would refuse to go to any of these cities
rt.com/news/395188-toulouse … -shooting/
rferl.org/a/azerbaijani-wom … 36647.html
thesun.co.uk/news/3174784/t … ench-city/
theguardian.com/world/2017/ … ue-reports
Wow, just WOW,!!! You have been busy, very good!
Now let’s go back to my OP, which wasn’t about France btw, yes we have problems here, but I didn’t start the post with
“Seeing as we have lots of problems here in France with gangs, drive-by-shootings etc etc , will any of you ever visit this country on holiday ever again ■■?!!!”
I can see by your comments and the way that you have turned it around to somewhere else, you obviously love your country and that you think it is Utopia and that nothing ever goes wrong, good for you for supporting the country that you live in! Carry on and I just hope that you will never be affected by any tragedy that involves some scrote trying to kill another scrote because he/she dared to cross the turf war line!!
Nice mis-intepretation of my post, I was just pointing out that all big cities have issues with crime, to say you don’t feel safe is pathetic, as for being busy took about 2 seconds on google lots to pick from.
London is as safe or as dangerous as any other large city or capital, have your wits about you and a bit of common sense and you can normally keep yourself out of trouble.
In the last year or so I’ve spent time in London, Berlin, Jerusalem, Tel Aviv etc and I honestly think that London is not a great deal different to the others.
Terrorist attacks are a whole different topic
del trotter:
Nice mis-intepretation of my post, I was just pointing out that all big cities have issues with crime, to say you don’t feel safe is pathetic, as for being busy took about 2 seconds on google lots to pick from.
Nice mis-interpretation of my OP, I wasn’t talking about the worlds problems, just what happened in London over the weekend.
My question “do you feel safe in London” applies not just to drivers but anyone that may be visiting there , weekend break, visiting friends/family etc. Do you drive around London with your doors locked?, do you look over your shoulder when walking?, are you apprehensive? Do you realise that there is so much hate in the city?
I’ve got Sky here and see the UK news as it happens, this isn’t through French tv channels. The weekends incidents didn’t shock me, I just thought not again!!! As I said in my OP, how many is that since Jan 1st ■■?
Years ago in a previous life as they say, I had a job doing remedial work on bus transmissions and carried tools etc and a laptop. Most of the work was carried out in the evening or small hours when most of the fleet was at rest for the night.
A lot of the garages were in places like Tottenham and Holloway etc and worst of them all was Stockwell.
A colleague and good friend gave some advice to me which I didn’t forget - hide anything which looks tasty, lock your doors before you leave the garage and go into the street and get straight home.
I said it ain’t the Bronx and he said you must think it could be. 
I know a lot of you will go “oh no not this rag again” but please look at the statistics, these are shocking figures
thesun.co.uk/news/5251268/l … uk-deaths/
Here’s another one
theguardian.com/uk-news/201 … f-violence
Socketset:
Years ago in a previous life as they say, I had a job doing remedial work on bus transmissions and carried tools etc and a laptop. Most of the work was carried out in the evening or small hours when most of the fleet was at rest for the night.
A lot of the garages were in places like Tottenham and Holloway etc and worst of them all was Stockwell.
A colleague and good friend gave some advice to me which I didn’t forget - hide anything which looks tasty, lock your doors before you leave the garage and go into the street and get straight home.
I said it ain’t the Bronx and he said you must think it could be.
Stockwell’s a lovely place!
I was driving on the agency for Iceland, finally found the backdoor for the Stockwell store, mid afternoon, on the tail lift hear a massive smash and bang just across the way from me, turns out someone had launched their washing machine off the balcony at the block of flats across the road…maybe the lifts were busy!
I’ve, got to go too Heston and Uxbridge tomorrow, think I’ll throw a sickee, I’ve been affected.
As Iron Maiden said “run to the hills,run for your lives”
London has always had territorial gang related issues.Up to the level of people like the Krays and the Richardsons.
But it’s a totally different scene with different rules and a different level of risk to the average innocent person there now to the point where the term no go area literally applies.As opposed to the old school clear lines and rules which in most cases seperated gangland activeties from the average person in the street.Which is why it was rightly known as the criminal under world.That all obviously changed with white flight and the immigrant takeover of the place.
As for weapons.Gun laws by definition mean that only the criminals are armed and the law abiding citizen doesn’t have any way of defending themselves against armed criminals.Together with a ridiculous regime which criminalises the use of self defence.What could possibly go wrong.
I’m only ever in London between 10pm and 4am. I generally feel safe, but…
Since the alarming rise of acid attacks, one random on a couple of paramedics sat at a set of traffic-lights, and another on a random asian man and woman also at a set of lights, I am mindful of it, and roll my window down no more than about half way. Some might think I’m over-reacting, but I once was plastered with liquid across my face on the M32 late one night. A group of lads threw a raw egg at my window from a car and I got showered in raw egg white. It could have been something worse. I sometimes, but not always lock my door if driving through certain parts, such as Enfield, Edmonton, Bow, etc.
xichrisxi:
leave them to keep killing each other apart from the loss of innocents caught in the cross fire those directly involved won’t be missed.
+1
Let them kill each other
Safe for now for most areas, particularly those where the wealthy live, and that goes for every area of this country.
Time will tell how bad it gets, what has been sown for many years is now being reaped why is anyone surprised, those with the means to have got out of the worse affected districts, its those poor sods left who can’t escape or who stubbornly want to see their days out in what they might once have called home i feel sorry for.
But then the real working class left behind have only ever counted at two moments in time, 1 when the elites call a war and need cannon fodder (good old Tommies, fine chaps you know what) and 2 when votes are required, rest of the time the elites wouldn’t ■■■■ on the working class if they were on fire.
Would i go for a stroll in the ‘enchanting’ areas of the dump, especially at night?, not on your nelly, and you couldn’t pay me enough to live in the crap hole, best thing about hell is the M1 northbound.
Juddian:
Safe for now for most areas, particularly those where the wealthy live, and that goes for every area of this country.
Time will tell how bad it gets, what has been sown for many years is now being reaped why is anyone surprised, those with the means to have got out of the worse affected districts, its those poor sods left who can’t escape or who stubbornly want to see their days out in what they might once have called home i feel sorry for.
But then the real working class left behind have only ever counted at two moments in time, 1 when the elites call a war and need cannon fodder (good old Tommies, fine chaps you know what) and 2 when votes are required, rest of the time the elites wouldn’t ■■■■ on the working class if they were on fire.
Would i go for a stroll in the ‘enchanting’ areas of the dump, especially at night?, not on your nelly, and you couldn’t pay me enough to live in the crap hole, best thing about hell is the M1 northbound.
Trouble is when a toilet is full, the crap starts to leak out, its starting to appear in Luton and MK, stevenage,
I did some agency work 3 years ago , delivering sea weed to high end restaurants mostly in the West End , Soho and the City , all overnight early morning . I felt pretty uncomfortable the number of drunk and high well dressed people being aggressive. The guy that did the run the following week actually got beaten up by a drunk . I used to do security work in the East End and West End in the 80s and had no qualms about tackling anybody . These days most of the feral scum running about carry blades or worse and now its acid .
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I’d rather do night work anywhere in London than spend a single second in Smethwick or Small Heath or anywhere around the Coventry ring road.