Car hire chaos bollox. How the hell does Johnny foreigner (who incidentally has never had a counterpart) manage to hire a car when he’s on his jollies?
Coffeeholic:
I mislaid my paper part weeks ago so I gues that counts as it being binned. Never shown the paper part anywhere when hiring a car abroad and don’t ever recall showing the paper part when stopped in controls while driving a truck around Europe.
^This^
ROG:
I do not get the reason for this unique 72 hour number thing when all a driver has to do is to take their photocard and their NI number to wherever and use the computer at that location to put in those details in order to show their driving licence detailsIt could be the hire company etc put in the driver licence number and postcode from the licence and the driver inputs their NI number
Employers usually photocopy the licence and have NI number so they will have all 3 bits of info to look at the licence details at any time they want to
As far as I can see it is all to do with data protection.
An employer wouldn’t officially be able to login using the drivers NI number - even though they have it. I suppose they could draft up a consent form for the driver to sign? I would.
If someone logs in with licence number and NI Number they will be able to see information they wouldn’t be able to see by using a unique number. An example would be the drivers address, the actual offences committed for penalty points including penalty codes and when they were gained. That are bits of information I have noticed don’t appear on the print out or screen when using a unique number.
If I was an employer I’d be a bit miffed at not being able to see what the endorsements were for and I’d certainly want to login with the NI number to get full access.
There is still confusion about penalties as well. The DVLA confirmed to me yesterday that endorsements over 5 years old will not show at all when using a unique number (rehabilitation of offenders act) - yet they do because I checked with someone’s licence yesterday with a DR10 from over 6 years ago. I informed DVLA who said “Oh … it’s not supposed to do that”.
shep532:
An employer wouldn’t officially be able to login using the drivers NI number - even though they have it. I suppose they could draft up a consent form for the driver to sign? I would.
Not officially but then who’s going to know? employers have all the details they need and there’s nothing on the site to tell you when it was last accessed
shep532:
If someone logs in with licence number and NI Number they will be able to see information they wouldn’t be able to see by using a unique number. An example would be the drivers address, the actual offences committed for penalty points including penalty codes and when they were gained. That are bits of information I have noticed don’t appear on the print out or screen when using a unique number.
From what I can see only drivers address is missing, offences are still showing
wing-nut:
From what I can see only drivers address is missing, offences are still showing
Logged in as me with NI number etc I can click a ‘tab’ and view my offences and penalties in full detail.
Log in with a unique number and all you see is number of offences and number of points. Not tab to get further details so no dates or offence codes. Obviously as an employer just seeing 6 points is not much use - what were the points for. I would have been able to see offence codes and dates on the paper counterpart.
That’s how it seems to be when I login
EDIT - Maybe that’s cos I don’t have any points. When I checked a different licence yesterday I realise now I didn’t click on the points bit to see if it gave me more detail
Hi there
Recent update from my last few car hires in the last couple of months.
Sixt, Europcar and Enterprise did not ask for my counterpart.
UCar did not even ask for my licence!
I asked a German colleague about points and stuff with hire cars, his reply was why should they want to know. There is no loading on the insurance for points.
Over here, if you get caught the local plod keeps a record, but you do not have a piece of paper to show (like our counterpart).
Hope this helps
Paul