got into an argument with a woman today who is a HR manager,it came back to the company I work for and now directors are involved,not one swear word came from me but apparently I told her to fxxk off ,pxxs off and so on why do management feel the need to lie through their teeth in order to make the situation worse than it was,do these cretins[management like her] really believe I would risk my job which I like in order to win an argument i really wish i could have recorded what was said and then presented the evidence to my manager and see her squirm when said evidence was presented to her employers
What was the argument about?
Pointless arguing with a woman, for all their burning bra shenanigans and generations of wanting equality when it comes down to it they are still the gentler ■■■ (apart from vanessa feltz obviously). They will also use every trick in the book to win.
Yeah what was the argument about, are you givin her one.
you made the classic mistake of being alone, never go one to one you will not win,
Are you a Lying, conniving, deceitful, scheming, dishonest, fraudulent, insidious person? No? Then you don’t belong in management.
Oh well, when you are happily settled in your new better job you will have the satisfaction of knowing that it, and hard-boiled virgins like her deserve to be called it, is still pug-ugly and always will be. 
Well there’s your first mistake…getting into an argument with a HR manager without having someone witness it…her word against yours…
Dipper_Dave:
Pointless arguing with a woman.
+1, there’s no logic in them whatsoever.
Dipper_Dave:
Pointless arguing with a woman, for all their burning bra shenanigans and generations of wanting equality when it comes down to it they are still the gentler ■■■ (apart from vanessa feltz obviously). They will also use every trick in the book to win.Yeah what was the argument about, are you givin her one.
“Are you giving her one”? 
come on Dave,get to the point.
If the woman is lying to that extent, then she really needs to be running a drivers agency… 
The way out is to lie…
She is making it up on the back of you knocking back her advances. She touched you in an inapropriate place and you moved here hand away. Now shes got it in for you.
If shes going to lie about you, discredit her and leave her vulnerable to the system she is playing.
H4L:
The way out is to lie…She is making it up on the back of you knocking back her advances. She touched you in an inapropriate place and you moved here hand away. Now shes got it in for you.
If shes going to lie about you, discredit her and leave her vulnerable to the system she is playing.
Exactly what I’d do too!
Discredit her and she’ll crumble but once you start you can’t stop until you win.
H4L:
The way out is to lie…She is making it up on the back of you knocking back her advances. She touched you in an inapropriate place and you moved here hand away. Now shes got it in for you.
If shes going to lie about you, discredit her and leave her vulnerable to the system she is playing.
This !
Play her at her own game.
Bit of a can of worms though…
Next thing youl be sitting in the gaffers office holding a teddy bear pointing out where she touched you.
For a female to get so worked up that she needs to lie her way out of it there must be some ■■■■■■ / emotional shenanigans (hell hath no fury like a woman scorned etc). Or perhaps she is just a vindictive ■■■■■ or even mental.
Having the highest regard for the female of the species and being mindfull that we have lady members on this forum (‘lady members’ now that phrase tickles me for some reason, or more accurately tickles me nose when im in the mood), im sure the situation could be resolved with either a hug, apology or gentle slap.
Life has taught me that the best way to win an argument with a woman is to admit defeat or distract them with a present of either: flowers, box of chocolates, cuddly animals or a giant ■■■■■.
Dipper_Dave:
im sure the situation could be resolved with either a hug, apology or gentle slap.
Nah, that’ll be turned into ■■■■■■ assault, an admition of guilt or a physical assault
Pimpdaddy:
Dipper_Dave:
Pointless arguing with a woman.+1, there’s no logic in them whatsoever.
I`m sure one of them will be here shortly to prove the point …
Do not go down the road of countering her lie with some of your own because it will bite you in the backside. Not least that it has been suggested on here and have no doubt it will somehow be found out. A false accusation of ■■■■■■ assault could land you in very hot water and I’m my opinion is a stupid thing to do.
If you are a fine upstanding bloke and your gaffers think you are a decent guy who would not do what this woman is saying then you have no problems. Its your word against hers. If however your boss takes her story as truth then ■■■■ it up and move on, they obviously don’t think much of you and its not worth sticking around.
I don’t think it’s legal to enter a room and record a conversation in a clandestine manner. One has do declare “recording intent” before doing so in a public place.
In the old days, one had to have permission of the home office to “randomly record conversations in public without further ado”.
That law was probably filtered down to the departments after 9/11 - but it’s still there.
GO into meetings likely to involve a confrontation - with a colleague if you have no Union, or a Union rep if you do.
The tricky situations are, of course, when a good looking HR bird calls you in the office with sweetness dripping off her lips, and then tells you “your FIRED!” because you’ve been wistfully ■■■■■■■■■■ her with your eyes as she walks by each day, and she’s well aware of it, and takes it as some kind of ■■■■■■ harassment. 
Ask yourself the question though… WHY didn’t you grab that colleague to go in there with? Were you hoping for something “off-book” perhaps?
Talk about giving someone enough rope to hang themselves with! 
Ramon123:
H4L:
The way out is to lie…She is making it up on the back of you knocking back her advances. She touched you in an inapropriate place and you moved here hand away. Now shes got it in for you.
The Potiphar’s Wife scenario I believe that’s called…If shes going to lie about you, discredit her and leave her vulnerable to the system she is playing.
This !
Play her at her own game.
If someone touches me for a fiver - is that “financial harassment” then? 
Not if you give them their £4.50 change, otherwise could be obtaining pecuniary advantage by deception 