Left tacho card in overnight

i left mine in for most of the year. the only time it came out was for downloads, then straight back in.

limeyphil:
i left mine in for most of the year. the only time it came out was for downloads, then straight back in.

Bet you didn’t leave it on “Other work” though :wink:

tachograph:

limeyphil:
i left mine in for most of the year. the only time it came out was for downloads, then straight back in.

Bet you didn’t leave it on “Other work” though :wink:

no. on rest.and with a magnet on, just in case one of the kids went for a spin.

limeyphil:

tachograph:

limeyphil:
i left mine in for most of the year. the only time it came out was for downloads, then straight back in.

Bet you didn’t leave it on “Other work” though :wink:

no. on rest.and with a magnet on, just in case one of the kids went for a spin.

phew, someone thinking of the children at last.

tachograph:

happysack:

Gembo:

206doorman:
Just tried that now…goes back to 03-10-2011 only.

Not that it matters much to me…my offences are few and infrequent. :blush:

Yeah same here, only thing i had was the same as the OP’s problem a few months back pluss ive had about 1 maybe 2 overspeeds in the last 12 months. Il try the above though just out of interest. Cheers Tachograph :wink:

one or maybe two overspeeds in twelve months? i usually have more than that every hour. why do some drivers sit with their foot on the brake, doing about 53 downhill on the motorway? surely you can sit at 60 whether tacho is flashing away or not?

On most vehicles I’ve driven with digital tachographs the overspeed doesn’t kick in until the vehicle is doing 60 mph :wink:

Tacho overspeed is set to limiter speed +2km sustained for (I think) 60 seconds.

My digital tachograph card holds entries going back to 2008! I was quite surprised it held that much but I’ve not driven enough on digis to wipe the old data yet.

A friend who regularly does shunting work has told me that his card keeps at least 10 months of data on it, even with all his vehicle changes…

As for mistakes; I used an unfamiliar tachograph unit some months back and accidentally created a manual entry from 0000 to 1000Hrs when took the vehicle on !!!

Got that excuse written down here somewhere too :astonished:

waynedl:
Tacho overspeed is set to limiter speed +2km sustained for (I think) 60 seconds.

Are you sure about that because I’ve gone out in vehicles limited to 55/56 mph and frequently held them at 59/60 mph downhill on a motorway without them flashing “Overspeed”.

tachograph:

waynedl:
Tacho overspeed is set to limiter speed +2km sustained for (I think) 60 seconds.

Are you sure about that because I’ve gone out in vehicles limited to 55/56 mph and frequently held them at 59/60 mph downhill on a motorway without them flashing “Overspeed”.

Wayndl is right. Limited Speed +1km for over 1 minute.
You could let it run at 70mph down a hill, but if its only a short hill and you slow back down to 90km in under a minute, it won’t register an overspeed. 90kmh for 1 minute = 1.5 km.
Overspeeds are, of course, not tacho infringements. Neither VOSA or the Police will charge you with overspeeds from your digicard. If they see you doing 70, they’ll probably charge you with speeding though :smiley:
You shouldn’t be concerned about infringements incurred more than 28 working days ago either. VOSA don’t normally look any further back than the 28 days they are allowed to check. If you have several infringements in the 28 days, they may look back further to see if its a regular pattern.

Simon:

tachograph:

waynedl:
Tacho overspeed is set to limiter speed +2km sustained for (I think) 60 seconds.

Are you sure about that because I’ve gone out in vehicles limited to 55/56 mph and frequently held them at 59/60 mph downhill on a motorway without them flashing “Overspeed”.

Wayndl is right. Limited Speed +1km for over 1 minute.
You could let it run at 70mph down a hill, but if its only a short hill and you slow back down to 90km in under a minute, it won’t register an overspeed. 90kmh for 1 minute = 1.5 km.
Overspeeds are, of course, not tacho infringements. Neither VOSA or the Police will charge you with overspeeds from your digicard. If they see you doing 70, they’ll probably charge you with speeding though :smiley:
You shouldn’t be concerned about infringements incurred more than 28 working days ago either. VOSA don’t normally look any further back than the 28 days they are allowed to check. If you have several infringements in the 28 days, they may look back further to see if its a regular pattern.

I was told +2kmh, but that’s similar to the rumour I’ve heard about a pattern suspecting a defective limiter or something

I’ve found the correct answer to the overspeed setting from VOSAs “Tachograph Centre Manual” , the correct overspeed setting for a digital tachograph fitted to most goods vehicles is 90 km/h, an incorrect setting is 91 km/h or more.

As already said an overspeed occurs when the vehicle exceeds the overspeed setting for more than 1 minute.

As I’ve posted before re manual rest entries on the back, is this a legal requirement as I do no work off tacho anyway?

Muckaway:
As I’ve posted before re manual rest entries on the back, is this a legal requirement as I do no work off tacho anyway?

If you mean manually record daily rest then there’s no legal requirement in the UK to record this, however it is a legal requirement to manually record any work not automatically recorded by the tachograph, although you say you don’t do any work off the the tachograph you obviously do, for instance there’s no way you could complete the chart whilst it’s in the tachograph, for this reason it’s a good idea to show your start and finish times with a line, in the UK this can be done either on the back or on the front as long as the line doesn’t interfere with the trace.

Drawing lines for start and finish times takes very little time and any gap between the line and the trace will automatically be regarded by VOSA as other work.

See pages 31 and 33 here

I pull the tacho out leave it until the next day. The “new” tacho I fill in during the night before, just before the old one comes out.
I take on what you say so I’ll just do start and finish lines from now on, cheers.

waynedl:
Yes, just you. It’s a tacho card NOT a tacho disc :unamused:

thats you youngsters calling them discs, never heard anyone years ago saying i,m going to run home without a disc in :unamused: or i,ll get tipped off the disc :unamused:

chaversdad:

waynedl:
Yes, just you. It’s a tacho card NOT a tacho disc :unamused:

thats you youngsters calling them discs, never heard anyone years ago saying i,m going to run home without a disc in :unamused: or i,ll get tipped off the disc :unamused:

Well, if you want to get picky about it, it was technically more accurate “years ago” to describe it as a disc than a card. The reasoning being that it is ‘disc’ shaped, but is not printed on ‘card’. :unamused:

Gogan:

chaversdad:

waynedl:
Yes, just you. It’s a tacho card NOT a tacho disc :unamused:

thats you youngsters calling them discs, never heard anyone years ago saying i,m going to run home without a disc in :unamused: or i,ll get tipped off the disc :unamused:

Well, if you want to get picky about it, it was technically more accurate “years ago” to describe it as a disc than a card. The reasoning being that it is ‘disc’ shaped, but is not printed on ‘card’. :unamused:

Actually the proper term for these disc shaped pieces of thin card is charts or record sheets. :stuck_out_tongue:

I hope this helps.

Coffeeholic:

Gogan:

chaversdad:

waynedl:
Yes, just you. It’s a tacho card NOT a tacho disc :unamused:

thats you youngsters calling them discs, never heard anyone years ago saying i,m going to run home without a disc in :unamused: or i,ll get tipped off the disc :unamused:

Well, if you want to get picky about it, it was technically more accurate “years ago” to describe it as a disc than a card. The reasoning being that it is ‘disc’ shaped, but is not printed on ‘card’. :unamused:

Actually the proper term for these disc shaped pieces of thin card is charts or record sheets. :stuck_out_tongue:

I hope this helps.

I was pulled at Beatock within the last 5 years and asked for my drivers logs. I was so close to laughing, he saw the funny side and changed it to records :stuck_out_tongue:

cards,charts,discs,records whatever, some people are just too picky :stuck_out_tongue:

but when i fill my chart or disc in with a pen on monday morning as far as i,m concerned i,m still putting my card in :wink:

chaversdad:
cards,charts,discs,records whatever, some people are just too picky :stuck_out_tongue:

but when i fill my chart or disc in with a pen on monday morning as far as i,m concerned i,m still putting my card in :wink:

Pen? Chart? Disc? How terribly last century of you. :stuck_out_tongue:

Coffeeholic:
these disc shaped pieces of thin card

“Analogue Tachograph Media” are printed on paper, not card (however thin you may like to describe it). :wink:

The difference between paper and card, contrary to common belief and even some marketing, is not in any way related to the actual thickness (or even mass) of the media post-production. The difference is simply defined by the production methods and component chemicals used to generate the pre-production product (or pulp) from which is processed to form what we commonly refer to as paper or card. Different processes are used to enure that card, when pressed and cut, will maintin its relative physical characteristics throughout a wide temperature and humidity range whereas paper (even when processed into thick sheetage) will behave very differently at the extremes of the environmental ranges.

Card is very expensive to produce, hence paper being much more common. Even card-board is actually made from paper stock, in order to keep it low-cost. Analogue Tachograph Media have no need to be made from card, as the wax coating provides almost all the additional benefits but the manufacturer saves the additional raw material cost of the stock, at the expense of course of the seconary waxing process which is necessary anyway in order to make the product functional.

And before anyone asks, no I’m not a sad individual who reads magazines about paper production processes (and such ‘fanzines’ do exist!), but I did work in the industry for a while. :blush: