When will I stop forgetting my card? I often walk away from the lorry and then remember and walk back but at the end of my shift today I put it on rest but didn’t press eject Didn’t pay attention to the note on the note book in my lap saying “DON’T FORGET CARD”. Closed it and put it away. I have a 55 mile round trip to retrieve it later tonight as I’m not working at the same place tomorrow. Can anyone top that? What do you do to not forget it? I don’t forget or lose any of my other possessions. Hopefully it will teach me.
Our place have a ruling that you download your card weekly on pain of disciplinary. Being a tramper it stays in the tacho head all week; though I am in the habit of ejecting it at the end of every shift, got used to that at my previous workplace where it was a rule because if you left it in it screwed Tachomaster up. Once card inserted in the morning, I make a manual entry to cover the break period.
So whewn I go home, I download the card and put it in my phone case. Because I’ve always got my phone with me.
I have a system, I do it in the same order everytime…
Plus we have to download daily!!!
Although, I do sometimes forget something, my wallet, my phone, works phone or I leave my car keys in the cab…
The car keys are easy, I can’t get in the car without them and I only live 10 minutes away from the yard!!!
Stick a post-it note on the speedometer of your car saying “Don’t forget card” when you arrive at work.
driveress:
What do you do to not forget it? I
Maybe frighten yourself?
Apart from the time and fuel you`re losing, you are actually performing part of your duties so are actually working…how are your hours? And maybe fined vast amounts of money and sent to prison for years, for this heinous violation of tacho regs!
I want to know why you put it on rest instead of ejecting it?
You could get into the habit of leaving the engine running until you have ejected the card?
Is there a reason you are leaving the ejection to last rather than first? I know that is my problem because I don’t want to do a manual entry for the end of the day, only the start of the day. But I would change if there was a risk of completely forgetting it (fingers crossed I haven’t jinxed myself [emoji23])
Would it help to value your card at the price of a day’s wages that you would lose because you left the card at the last job?
Harry Monk:
Stick a post-it note on the speedometer of your car saying “Don’t forget card” when you arrive at work.
Top tip Also sounds like you need to take a couple of minutes to chill at the end of your shift if this is happening frequently. Don’t get distracted by people talking to you, and to have a little mental checklist, train your self into it so it’s like an OCD habit, eg: phone, wallet, card and keys
Zac_A:
Harry Monk:
Stick a post-it note on the speedometer of your car saying “Don’t forget card” when you arrive at work.Top tip
Also sounds like you need to take a couple of minutes to chill at the end of your shift if this is happening frequently. Don’t get distracted by people talking to you, and to have a little mental checklist, train your self into it so it’s like an OCD habit, eg: phone, wallet, card and keys
Zac_A:
Don’t get distracted by people talking to you
Excellent advice. I train drivers and this is something I tell them too. It’s so easy to be distracted when you’re doing walk-around checks or hitching/unhitching a trailer, using a tail-lift or whatever and to lose your place in the routine and forget to do something important. I’ve seen people forget to raise trailer legs, leave a tail-lift out, not attach a numberplate, not put their driver card in the tachograph and all sorts. I won’t pretend I haven’t done similar myself.
If someone starts talking to you it’s fine to tell them you’re busy and can’t talk and it’s a good idea to start your routine again just to make sure.
Zac_A:
Harry Monk:
Stick a post-it note on the speedometer of your car saying “Don’t forget card” when you arrive at work.Top tip
Also sounds like you need to take a couple of minutes to chill at the end of your shift if this is happening frequently. Don’t get distracted by people talking to you, and to have a little mental checklist, train your self into it so it’s like an OCD habit, eg: phone, wallet, card and keys
That sounds like own account work. Haulage is more like: “Hurry up I need that unit for the night trunk” says the night man standing beside the cab door as soon as the wheels stop turning.
My car keys live next to my wallet in the truck, I can’t forget the car keys so I can’t forget my wallet and to eject and put my card in it
stu675:
I want to know why you put it on rest instead of ejecting it?
You could get into the habit of leaving the engine running until you have ejected the card?
Is there a reason you are leaving the ejection to last rather than first? I know that is my problem because I don’t want to do a manual entry for the end of the day, only the start of the day. But I would change if there was a risk of completely forgetting it (fingers crossed I haven’t jinxed myself [emoji23])
Would it help to value your card at the price of a day’s wages that you would lose because you left the card at the last job?
I’ve always put it on bed then ejected the card, isn’t that the correct process
The gas man:
I’ve always put it on bed then ejected the card, isn’t that the correct process
It’s not incorrect as such, but it begs the question why? Nothing can be recorded onto a card that is not in the tachograph so it seems pretty pointless to me. When you reinsert your card you make an entry to confirm “rest until now” so rest is then entered onto your card, providing you confirm the prompt of course.
the maoster:
The gas man:
I’ve always put it on bed then ejected the card, isn’t that the correct processIt’s not incorrect as such, but it begs the question why? Nothing can be recorded onto a card that is not in the tachograph so it seems pretty pointless to me. When you reinsert your card you make an entry to confirm “rest until now” so rest is then entered onto your card, providing you confirm the prompt of course.
Yes and no…
By changing the mode to bed, the card is marked as bed as the last mode. It therefore follows that bed will be the mode expected to be shown when the card is re-inserted (except on Iveco’s cos f all works on them anyway). Depending on which tacho is being used this is the correct method (but then again who gives a ■■■■). If you actually read up on tacho regs from Brussels (circa 1983 to 2001 or thereabouts) you’d have known this basic schoolboy stuff.
Changing the mode to bed also pre-programs the night heater to initiate exactly 9 hours later. Bet you didn’t know that either did you!
I think you’re wrong ^^^^ , dunno about the night heater , but the tacho bit.
We’ll schedule a tacho course in The Ivy sometime soon to bring ourselves up to speed.
yourhavingalarf:
Changing the mode to bed also pre-programs the night heater to initiate exactly 9 hours later. Bet you didn’t know that either did you!
The cab should be nice and warm when you return from a weekly rest period then
cav551:
That sounds like own account work. Haulage is more like: “Hurry up I need that unit for the night trunk” says the night man standing beside the cab door as soon as the wheels stop turning.
I don’t drive very much these days, but when I did I wouldn’t have mattered what someone like that said, attempts to apply unwanted pressure tend to result in a short lesson on Newton’s Third Law of Motion: “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction”. A ten minute walkaround check can easily turn into 30 minutes if someone is being a pillock.
If you don’t care about staying with a particular company, you don’t have to accept their BS if you don’t want to. And the would-be bully boys soon learn to back off if you bat it straight back at them.
cav551:
Zac_A:
Harry Monk:
Stick a post-it note on the speedometer of your car saying “Don’t forget card” when you arrive at work.Top tip
Also sounds like you need to take a couple of minutes to chill at the end of your shift if this is happening frequently. Don’t get distracted by people talking to you, and to have a little mental checklist, train your self into it so it’s like an OCD habit, eg: phone, wallet, card and keys
That sounds like own account work. Haulage is more like: “Hurry up I need that unit for the night trunk” says the night man standing beside the cab door as soon as the wheels stop turning.
A most excellent suggestion Harry, thank you.
Tbh I think I’m too chilled at the end of my shift. I might need to introduce some tension! I can’t blame others for distracting me as it was an outbased job at a remote yard, and yes, own account. I can see the equivalent of the pre holiday check of “passport, tickets, money” working. I just need to customise it. Combined with the post-it, that’s belt and braces.
I’ve also been told to put it on rest at the end of a shift by somewhere I worked. I think the reason I didn’t eject it straightaway was because I was waiting 31secs for it to register as rest,(does that apply?) then forgot about it. I have driven a lorry which asked “rest until now” in the morning, but most I drive don’t ask that.
Thanks all, for your suggestions.
driveress:
I’ve also been told to put it on rest at the end of a shift by somewhere I worked.
Older tachos would (IIRC) register the last mode entered.
Not so many around now, but registering the start of a rest before ejecting the card will do zero harm, at the cost of 31 seconds, and might save a problem.
Half a minute? Guess what I do?
Franglais:
driveress:
I’ve also been told to put it on rest at the end of a shift by somewhere I worked.Older tachos would (IIRC) register the last mode entered.
Not so many around now, but registering the start of a rest before ejecting the card will do zero harm, at the cost of 31 seconds, and might save a problem.Half a minute? Guess what I do?
Zero harm? Risk of leaving card in.
I actually think putting it on rest is genuinely wrong unless you intend to sleep in the cab as opposed to handing your keys in.