driveress:
I’ve also been told to put it on rest at the end of a shift by somewhere I worked.
Older tachos would (IIRC) register the last mode entered.
Not so many around now, but registering the start of a rest before ejecting the card will do zero harm, at the cost of 31 seconds, and might save a problem.
Half a minute? Guess what I do?
Zero harm? Risk of leaving card in.
I actually think putting it on rest is genuinely wrong unless you intend to sleep in the cab as opposed to handing your keys in.
Is the risk of leaving the card in increased by hitting “bed” button? Surely it is a reminder that the card is there?
If one is doing summat work related after hitting the button, then it might be “wrong” to do so.
Driveress has said she was at a remote location and only going home.
driveress:
I can’t blame others for distracting me as it was an outbased job at a remote yard, and yes, own account.
If I wasn`t sleeping in the cab, that is also what I habitually did: out the cab and off home.
You need a routine just the same way we have a routine for hooking up a trailer , everything done in an order and done the same way each time until it just becomes the natural way. Have to confess I’ve done the same (our yard is only a couple of miles away so not the end of the world ) and I’ve left it in the head all weekend as well and the wash boys have shunted it round the yard and hopped out leaving it on other work for 40 odd hours . Always great fun and strange words on a Monday morning when you realise whats happened
Sidevalve:
Our place have a ruling that you download your card weekly on pain of disciplinary. Being a tramper it stays in the tacho head all week; though I am in the habit of ejecting it at the end of every shift, got used to that at my previous workplace where it was a rule because if you left it in it screwed Tachomaster up. Once card inserted in the morning, I make a manual entry to cover the break period.
So whewn I go home, I download the card and put it in my phone case. Because I’ve always got my phone with me.
Sorry, I am confused, to why you do a manual entry to cover rest? If you do a print out and it’s on rest at the end of shift , once you put back in next day, then switch to work it’s self explanatory…
Sidevalve:
Our place have a ruling that you download your card weekly on pain of disciplinary. Being a tramper it stays in the tacho head all week; though I am in the habit of ejecting it at the end of every shift, got used to that at my previous workplace where it was a rule because if you left it in it screwed Tachomaster up. Once card inserted in the morning, I make a manual entry to cover the break period.
So whewn I go home, I download the card and put it in my phone case. Because I’ve always got my phone with me.
Sorry, I am confused, to why you do a manual entry to cover rest? If you do a print out and it’s on rest at the end of shift , once you put back in next day, then switch to work it’s self explanatory…
I never once did a manual entry.
That’s no longer legal if the tacho records “?” For the period the card is out and you don’t record it on the back of a slip or disc.
discoman:
Sorry, I am confused, to why you do a manual entry to cover rest? If you do a print out and it’s on rest at the end of shift , once you put back in next day, then switch to work it’s self explanatory…
I never once did a manual entry.
DVSA last year brought in their own very selective interpretation of the “need to accurately record all work activities” as stipulated in (EU) 2020/1054.
So now everyone needs to do an ME at the start of every shift, after their card has been out for rest.
Scania drivers can have the last laugh though, they usually have Stoneridge tachos fitted, so all you need to do is answer “Yes” when it asks “Rest until now?” Other tacho manufacturers didn’t think to include this feature.
Occasional drivers have the biggest inconvenience obviously, needing to fill in the blanks for their whole previous 28 days.
I always do a manual entry at start of every shift. Quite often I end up doing some odds and sods after I’ve bailed out of the cab so I want paying for them. But when I’m on a night out I also eject the card every night, then turn the card over and put it back in slot one, leaving it sticking out. That way I always know where it is, but there’s no danger of accidentally inserting it by catching it with an elbow or something as I’m moving around the cab. Had a few infringements over the years by doing that.
Sidevalve:
Our place have a ruling that you download your card weekly on pain of disciplinary. Being a tramper it stays in the tacho head all week; though I am in the habit of ejecting it at the end of every shift, got used to that at my previous workplace where it was a rule because if you left it in it screwed Tachomaster up. Once card inserted in the morning, I make a manual entry to cover the break period.
So whewn I go home, I download the card and put it in my phone case. Because I’ve always got my phone with me.
Sorry, I am confused, to why you do a manual entry to cover rest? If you do a print out and it’s on rest at the end of shift , once you put back in next day, then switch to work it’s self explanatory…
I never once did a manual entry.
That’s no longer legal if the tacho records “?” For the period the card is out and you don’t record it on the back of a slip or disc.
Firstly, why do a printout if you don’t have to? Tacho rolls are not free, the boss doesn’t need to see them anyway and it’s just pointless extra paperwork…
Secondly, as Stu says, the way you do it is no longer legal according to DVSA. When I worked at ForFarmers, who were obsessive about compliance, they brought that system in to avoid any issues with DVSA and I’ve simply stuck with it ever since.
