eagerbeaver:
If you are still looking for someone to ram a pineapple up your arse Rob, I have a spare hour tomorrow.We could call it " Caribbean clench ".
I’ve just imagined someone coming across this site by accident , and curiously wondering what topics of conversation truckers discuss, and by chance randomly reading your post as the first on the site. 
Know what you mean my old fruit! I will try and go back on topic.
Why do limpers have bad hair?
sweeper1gg:
To be fair there are some new drivers on agencys that are learning the ropes, but there are also a lot of verygood drivers too, that will jump in bulk tippers, lowloaders, tautliners, box, fridge, strap any loads,nothing scares them they do this for decent money. alot of drivers out there have worked on box trailers all there life and have no idea of different trailer systems, MY POINT IS DON’T KNOCK THE AGENCY CHAPS. they may show your boys a trick or too.
This is very true. I even have warehouse managers asking me to sort their deckers out when something goes wrong. I am now in my 9th year with this client and I am well known for getting things done even if they are not really my job although I seem to have gained the title of shunter even though I wont do shunting shifts (cant be bothered with the office politics surrounding that job) but I do help the shunters quite willingly rather than sit staring at the wall or studying.
On a broader scale, I agree that the majority of agency drivers are hopeless but not all! We get guys who bump the trucks, leave their rubbish, dont fuel up etc etc etc but I hate them as much as bosses do because they make us all look bad collectively (not to mention increasing my workload). Some of us are not out to make as much money as possible and are motivated by doing a job for which we get paid. The main difference between good and bad drivers is attitude!
FFS, this thread is a riot! 
Us gammy leg limpers are really copping it at present, I love it!
Well I hope Honked eventually finds a limper who can turn up on time in the right place, I hope I get trapped in a lift with Goldilox , and I hope Robroy gets his pinapple! 
Keep up the good work gents; I’m sorry I’ve not been about to comment for a while, but I’ve been hobbling in to work on time with my carrier bag non stop recently… 
Evil8Beezle:
FFS, this thread is a riot!
Us gammy leg limpers are really copping it at present, I love it!
Well I hope Honked eventually finds a limper who can turn up on time in the right place, I hope I get trapped in a lift with GoldiloxKeep up the good work gents; I’m sorry I’ve not been about to comment for a while, but I’ve been hobbling in to work on time with my carrier bag non stop recently…
Lucky you, I’ve been limping between my GP, A&E, Orthopaedics, Physio and am waiting for a DEXA scan to see if my bones are falling to bits 
There’s plenty of work for me as the medics give me the all clear.
Meanwhile I’m getting really, really BORED and have resorted to trying to read sheet music and play bass guitar if I make the big time I’ll hold a charity gig to help out the poor company drivers to broaden their skills so they stop trying to blame all their FKups on the limpers
Honked:
Rjan:
Honked:
Only an hour and a quarter late today. I wonder if he forgot to put his clock back in October?Not exactly a difficult job either. Drive for an hour, open curtain while someone loads it And drive back. Rinse and repeat.
On a tough day you might have to do it three times (just like on your wedding night).Think it may be prudent to get a migrant and put a caravan in the yard
Almost any job which has a settled science to it, can be described as bish, bash, bosh.
The nub of your problem is the contempt with which you view other’s work, and their contribution to your operation. It’s so thinly veiled that many have already remarked on it.
You’d do better to acknowledge firstly that you are asking people to do work. Then, when you wonder why on Earth people are so loath to do any but a small dose of it, you’ll understand why: it is work.
The fact that it’s routine, repetitive work isn’t something that makes it easier or more attractive. I’d be surprised even if any schoolchild says “when I grow up, I want to sit on my own turning a wheel back and forth for 60 hours a week”.
Sometimes to make the day interesting, I pull the curtains from the back to the front.
Beats sitting in a box with a [zb] at an rdc.
Strange considering most (not all) limpers ask us to keep their number on file
I only dislike the lazy ones. A job is actually about doing work and doing it well, not milking it at every opportunity.
Why are you relying on an agency and not knowing who the driver is going to be if you have “most limpers” leaving their numbers with you, why don’t you ring one of those, or ask the agency for a driver by name■■?
Honked:
CHAINSAW:
Honked:
Only an hour and a quarter late today. I wonder if he forgot to put his clock back in October?Not exactly a difficult job either. Drive for an hour, open curtain while someone loads it And drive back. Rinse and repeat.
On a tough day you might have to do it three times (just like on your wedding night).Think it may be prudent to get a migrant and put a caravan in the yard
And this is why the transport industry is [zb]… why not employ an extra driver■■?
Only needed for holiday cover and not many companies can afford to pay to have someone stood on standby, that’s why the agencies flourish
Agencies flourish■■? What making a pound an hour…
Honked:
Rjan:
Honked:
Rjan:
Ah so now we get to the nub: your puny operation can’t afford to support full coverage by quality drivers.Yet you think these quality drivers should be standing around all the same, ready and waiting for when you call and throw them a bone.
Eh? You telling me that I should employ someone to sit in the canteen just for holiday cover?
Sitting around is what’s happening anyway, with guys sat idle next to their phones waiting for you to throw a bone. The only difference is that you’re not paying them to be on-call (either directly or via a higher hourly rate), and then moaning when you get surly workers who think they’re getting a raw deal.
Realistically, the answer is either to have cover drivers employed full-time by some sort of employers’ association, so that they can be shared amongst those requiring holiday cover whilst providing a full-time livelihood to the worker, or else the answer is for there to be fewer employers with more drivers each (who can then cover holidays with normal workforce overtime policies).
There are drivers out there who do that already, it is called being self employed, they merely use agencies to find them work, there are many drivers who work for various companies without an agency acting as the middle party.
Have you reached puberty yet? You’re talking like a 10 year old.The limpers don’t have a raw deal, they get paid a higher rate than full timers. The rest of your rant will make the agency industry quake.
“I have an idea for the transport industry, we will stop recruitment companies in their traks. We will employ drivers to fill in for holidays and peak times, these people will be shared around various companies where and when required.”
Not quite come up with a name for this type of work but I’m sure someone will think of one…
If a limper is a decent driver, he will be in full time employment. I never struggled to fill my weeks before my leg healed.
We do ask for the good drivers but as they are good they get booked up
£1 per hour x 100 drivers is not a poor business model.
Honked:
We do ask for the good drivers but as they are good they get booked up
It’s like that lady ■■■■■■ who gets on her hands and knees for a pittance. The only problem is the darn girl is always booked up!
Rjan:
It’s like that lady ■■■■■■ who gets on her hands and knees for a pittance. The only problem is the darn girl is always booked up!
Not round here, a good woman will take up a days pay for a half hour of her time. It’s the downside of still being paid in groats.
Honked:
£1 per hour x 100 drivers is not a poor business model.
An agency wouldn’t last very long charging that above what they pay their drivers.
Conor:
An agency wouldn’t last very long charging that above what they pay their drivers.
They do according to Chainsaw
Honked:
Conor:
An agency wouldn’t last very long charging that above what they pay their drivers.They do according to Chainsaw
My agency have to charge at least £2.60/hr more than my PAYE rate just so they cover the cost of employing me with the holiday pay and employers NI. There’s then another £1/hr to cover their mandatory employers pension contribution under the new Workplace Pensions scheme and then there are the costs of running the agency. Even if you had just two staff in an office on national minimum wage the bill for the two staff alone would account for the extra £1/hr of 18 of those 100 drivers.
One of my friends owns an agency, I know what they charge and the running costs. I turned him down to work with him on a new venture. But it does show the lack of understanding that some limpers have of how their employers are ripping them off
Where I’m currently working the company pays the agency £18 ph, I see £11.50p ph.
Do I care ?
No.
All units are new, most trailers are new. I get told what I’m doing and I get left alone.
I work harder than the perm drivers, but again I don’t care as I get paid.
I’ve been asked back every day at this place (barring first 3 weeks of Jan) since I stated back in August.
I have a limp.
I have no more to say.
Honked:
We do ask for the good drivers but as they are good they get booked up£1 per hour x 100 drivers is not a poor business model.
I don’t know of many agencies that have all their drivers out this time of year, funny though how the limpers are there to help out when you full timers are having your holidays and sick days, I don’t get holiday pay or sick pay and have to work anti social hours usually late bookings but I don’t moan about it unless the company is a bag of ■■■■ ( which in my opinion is an every growing percentage of them) the job is ■■■■ and getting worse by the week, most agency drivers are not full time because it suits their lifestyle not because they are poor drivers, though there are an ever increasing amount of them being let loose on the roads… and on here for that matter!!!
BradCarTransporter:
Where I’m currently working the company pays the agency £18 ph, I see £11.50p ph.Do I care ?
No.
All units are new, most trailers are new. I get told what I’m doing and I get left alone.
I work harder than the perm drivers, but again I don’t care as I get paid.
I’ve been asked back every day at this place (barring first 3 weeks of Jan) since I stated back in August.
I have no more to say.
.
You say you don’t care mate, well that’s up to you.
Do you not ask yourself why the co. could not just pay you the amount they are paying the agency, instead of them poncing six and a half quid off every hour you work, which equates to about 300 or so quid a week 
for doing ■■■■ all.
I reckon that would make me think to the point of caring.
■■■■ Parasites I would call them. 
You say you work harder than the employed drivers, is that a fact or just in your opinion?
Oh sorry, you said you had ‘no more to say’ we will never know
robroy:
Do you not ask yourself why the co. could not just pay you the amount they are paying the agency, instead of them poncing six and a half quid off every hour you work, which equates to about 300 or so quid a week
They don’t ponce six and a half quid off you. As I showed in my illustration at least three and a half quid will go towards meeting their legal obligations in regards to employers expenses for employing a person. In his case it’ll be more like £4 so they’re making £2/hr plus pence.
They also have to pay the agency worker the following week even though they’ve not got paid from the client and if they’re using the Swedish Derogation have funds to cover paying the driver when there is no work in a week.
CHAINSAW:
I don’t get holiday pay or sick pay
Why not? Are you another mickey mouse self employed? If you are on PAYE you’re entitled to holiday pay and sick pay. I get 33 days holiday pay a year.