Lazy limpers

Blunder Man:
To paraphrase Mandy Rice Davies “you would say that wouldn’t you” any way im bored with this, I HAVE limped of into the sunset, so when Im sitting in the pub tomorrow afternoon and your being king turd of [zb] mountain, i will drink to the ill health I do hope comes to you.

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Blunder Man:
Retired last year old boy dont have to deal with arrogant turds like you anymore, I hope you get the drivers you deserve, crap ones, anyway what is your company called you think you are so good tell us who you are…but you wont will you because somebody on here will have worked for you and give us the truth about your shabby company.

Ah so you have limped out of gainful existence, well I hope you enjoy your retirement.

We have the (full time) drivers we deserve, they turn up on time, do a days graft, go home. We haven’t had to recruit new blood for two years and most have been there over 10 years.

It wouldn’t make any difference if I told you who we are, we are like marmite. But feel free to expand on why you think we are shabby?
Long serving drivers - tick
Up to date fleet - tick
Green light on DVSA - tick
Reasonable pay - tick

If we look at the nub of my post, I am complaining about lazy drivers, I have done 11 hours today, a grand total of 280km and it was my choice to go home or do a bit extra. Hardly back breaking work is it?

Top posting… Is there a greater scourge on the internet?

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CHAINSAW:

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Only an hour and a quarter late today. I wonder if he forgot to put his clock back in October?

Not exactly a difficult job either. Drive for an hour, open curtain while someone loads it And drive back. Rinse and repeat.
On a tough day you might have to do it three times (just like on your wedding night).

Think it may be prudent to get a migrant and put a caravan in the yard :wink:

And this is why the transport industry is [zb]… why not employ an extra driver■■?

Only needed for holiday cover and not many companies can afford to pay to have someone stood on standby, that’s why the agencies flourish :wink:

Ah so now we get to the nub: your puny operation can’t afford to support full coverage by quality drivers.

Yet you think these quality drivers should be standing around all the same, ready and waiting for when you call and throw them a bone.

Rjan:

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CHAINSAW:

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Only an hour and a quarter late today. I wonder if he forgot to put his clock back in October?

Not exactly a difficult job either. Drive for an hour, open curtain while someone loads it And drive back. Rinse and repeat.
On a tough day you might have to do it three times (just like on your wedding night).

Think it may be prudent to get a migrant and put a caravan in the yard :wink:

And this is why the transport industry is [zb]… why not employ an extra driver■■?

Only needed for holiday cover and not many companies can afford to pay to have someone stood on standby, that’s why the agencies flourish :wink:

Ah so now we get to the nub: your puny operation can’t afford to support full coverage by quality drivers.

Yet you think these quality drivers should be standing around all the same, ready and waiting for when you call and throw them a bone.

Eh? You telling me that I should employ someone to sit in the canteen just for holiday cover?

When a limper says they have ‘retired’ does this basically mean they just get a new mobile phone with a different number?

Here’s my candidate for a lazy limper loser:- bristolpost.co.uk/Paraplegic … story.html

Blimey I’ve never seen so many easily offended limpers in one place since the quasimodo tribute act convention.

Haven’t you lot got a bell somewhere with your face on it.

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Rjan:
Ah so now we get to the nub: your puny operation can’t afford to support full coverage by quality drivers.

Yet you think these quality drivers should be standing around all the same, ready and waiting for when you call and throw them a bone.

Eh? You telling me that I should employ someone to sit in the canteen just for holiday cover?

Sitting around is what’s happening anyway, with guys sat idle next to their phones waiting for you to throw a bone. The only difference is that you’re not paying them to be on-call (either directly or via a higher hourly rate), and then moaning when you get surly workers who think they’re getting a raw deal.

Realistically, the answer is either to have cover drivers employed full-time by some sort of employers’ association, so that they can be shared amongst those requiring holiday cover whilst providing a full-time livelihood to the worker, or else the answer is for there to be fewer employers with more drivers each (who can then cover holidays with normal workforce overtime policies).

Rjan:

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Rjan:
Ah so now we get to the nub: your puny operation can’t afford to support full coverage by quality drivers.

Yet you think these quality drivers should be standing around all the same, ready and waiting for when you call and throw them a bone.

Eh? You telling me that I should employ someone to sit in the canteen just for holiday cover?

Sitting around is what’s happening anyway, with guys sat idle next to their phones waiting for you to throw a bone. The only difference is that you’re not paying them to be on-call (either directly or via a higher hourly rate), and then moaning when you get surly workers who think they’re getting a raw deal.

Realistically, the answer is either to have cover drivers employed full-time by some sort of employers’ association, so that they can be shared amongst those requiring holiday cover whilst providing a full-time livelihood to the worker, or else the answer is for there to be fewer employers with more drivers each (who can then cover holidays with normal workforce overtime policies).

Have you reached puberty yet? You’re talking like a 10 year old.

The limpers don’t have a raw deal, they get paid a higher rate than full timers. The rest of your rant will make the agency industry quake.

“I have an idea for the transport industry, we will stop recruitment companies in their traks. We will employ drivers to fill in for holidays and peak times, these people will be shared around various companies where and when required.”

Not quite come up with a name for this type of work but I’m sure someone will think of one…

If a limper is a decent driver, he will be in full time employment. I never struggled to fill my weeks before my leg healed.

but this is the trouble honked a lot and not having a pop here of full time companies think they are the company agency drivers want to work at - then they are often surprised when agency drivers don’t see it the same way - you say its an easy job back and forth that would bore the crap out of me am afraid.

this was why I liked agency work you can pick and choose and move about a bit - I loved royal mail but I couldn’t be like the full timers going each and every day at the same time to the same 3 places and back - even ASDA where I worked full time had a variation on the runs we done. maybe it was because I was an owner driver so had more of a background in different types of work or maybe I just get bored easily! my point is what one person sees as an amazing easy job because you have new merc or whatever isn’t always the same for someone else.

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Rjan:

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Rjan:
Ah so now we get to the nub: your puny operation can’t afford to support full coverage by quality drivers.

Yet you think these quality drivers should be standing around all the same, ready and waiting for when you call and throw them a bone.

Eh? You telling me that I should employ someone to sit in the canteen just for holiday cover?

Sitting around is what’s happening anyway, with guys sat idle next to their phones waiting for you to throw a bone. The only difference is that you’re not paying them to be on-call (either directly or via a higher hourly rate), and then moaning when you get surly workers who think they’re getting a raw deal.

Realistically, the answer is either to have cover drivers employed full-time by some sort of employers’ association, so that they can be shared amongst those requiring holiday cover whilst providing a full-time livelihood to the worker, or else the answer is for there to be fewer employers with more drivers each (who can then cover holidays with normal workforce overtime policies).

Have you reached puberty yet? You’re talking like a 10 year old.

Your posts read like you were contemporary with Charles Dickens, so I suppose by that standard youth still rules me.

The limpers don’t have a raw deal, they get paid a higher rate than full timers.

I can’t say I’d noticed the generally advertised agency hourly rates being much more than the generally advertised permanent hourly rates - in fact often they’re less, and that’s before you talk about the loss of security and benefits.

Perhaps in some outfits the full-time guys are still on such poor pay (i.e. within a pound of NMW) that the agency guys are getting a better hourly rate than the full-timers in that particular firm, but those low rates often don’t reflect the average market rate to begin with.

The rest of your rant will make the agency industry quake.

“I have an idea for the transport industry, we will stop recruitment companies in their traks. We will employ drivers to fill in for holidays and peak times, these people will be shared around various companies where and when required.”

Not quite come up with a name for this type of work but I’m sure someone will think of one…

The difference in this model is that the driver is actually employed, and the association underwrite his wages whether he is used by them or sits on the bench.

That’s a model reminiscent of the past though, fragile against unregulated competition. The stronger model is fewer employers with more employees, which I’m sure will have people quaking in their boots all the same.

If a limper is a decent driver, he will be in full time employment. I never struggled to fill my weeks before my leg healed.

Then you’re getting what you expect even by your own logic, and you also prove my point that agency work is inherently underpaid relative to full-time work (because otherwise it would attract an abundance of willing drivers and you wouldn’t have to accept inferior quality).

To be fair you/we are all living in the gutter but a few look up to the stars.

I think I would prefer to be stuck in a lift with a limper than a FTW as there would be more interesting stories/adventures to be told. As long as there was plenty of ventilation of course and the hi-viz wasn’t too bright as to give me a migraine.

Not read the whole thread but I am someone who will not under any circumstances go into London in a truck anywhere else no problem at all but I wouldn’t touch that mental place with a barge pole.

Goldilox:
I think I would prefer to be stuck in a lift with a limper than a FTW as there would be more interesting stories/adventures to be told. .

Yeh it would be absolutely riveting eh?
The tale about the day at Tesco rdc, when he arrived 5 mins late, next day at Asda 3 minutes early, …and lol lol …what about the day he left home without his hi viz, laugh? we all had wet kecks.
And hey! just wait until he got on about the day he went to Travis Perkins and they were on tea break, I would be hanging on to his every word.
It would be EVEN better than Stobbies trucks and trailers.

That’s the gist, yeah! Gather you weren’t being serious mind you, and the lift gets fixed after an hour…or so…

You forgot the MSA’s - now you’re talking!

Goldilox:
That’s the gist, yeah! Gather you weren’t being serious mind you, and the lift gets fixed after an hour…or so…

You forgot the MSA’s - now you’re talking!

Yeh, you gather correctly mate.
You know what, I would rather volunteer to have a pineapple hammered violently up my ■■■■■■ than listen to some of the crap spouted in rdc.s/msa.s/ferries/cafes/truckstops/pubs AND broken lifts, by both agency and f.timers, I tend to try and keep a low profile in case one of these guys pounce on me. :smiley:

war1974:
but this is the trouble honked a lot and not having a pop here of full time companies think they are the company agency drivers want to work at - then they are often surprised when agency drivers don’t see it the same way - you say its an easy job back and forth that would bore the crap out of me am afraid.

this was why I liked agency work you can pick and choose and move about a bit - I loved royal mail but I couldn’t be like the full timers going each and every day at the same time to the same 3 places and back - even ASDA where I worked full time had a variation on the runs we done. maybe it was because I was an owner driver so had more of a background in different types of work or maybe I just get bored easily! my point is what one person sees as an amazing easy job because you have new merc or whatever isn’t always the same for someone else.

Totally agree, back in the day when I worked for a living tramping, all I wanted was London and the south. Driving north was akin to going on holiday. Now it’s easy street, I enjoy what I do a lot more, less stressed and still eager to get up on the alarm clock.

robroy:

Goldilox:
I think I would prefer to be stuck in a lift with a limper than a FTW as there would be more interesting stories/adventures to be told. .

Yeh it would be absolutely riveting eh?
The tale about the day at Tesco rdc, when he arrived 5 mins late, next day at Asda 3 minutes early, …and lol lol …what about the day he left home without his hi viz, laugh? we all had wet kecks.
And hey! just wait until he got on about the day he went to Travis Perkins and they were on tea break, I would be hanging on to his every word.
It would be EVEN better than Stobbies trucks and trailers.

:laughing:

dogthehunter:
Too many drivers out there that won’t do … I’m a relative new comer (9 years exp) but iv never known it so bad … got fellas on our place …won’t drive anything older than a 2014 truck won’t strap loads won’t do London etc etc …makes fellas like me look like a mug because I just go where I’m told etc

:smiley: got em at our place wont do nights out wont do feed mills then thay moan because thay dont get top money or blinged up motors :unamused: :unamused:

If you are still looking for someone to ram a pineapple up your arse Rob, I have a spare hour tomorrow.

We could call it " Caribbean clench ".

To be fair there are some new drivers on agencys that are learning the ropes, but there are also a lot of verygood drivers too, that will jump in bulk tippers, lowloaders, tautliners, box, fridge, strap any loads,nothing scares them they do this for decent money. alot of drivers out there have worked on box trailers all there life and have no idea of different trailer systems, MY POINT IS DON’T KNOCK THE AGENCY CHAPS. they may show your boys a trick or too.