Hey Orys, at least in Poland you have entertainment provided in the laybys, the Rumanian ladies who constantly wave to cars as they pass. I was driving for Salvessenon a night trunk and noticed a sign by a layby ‘Lorries Welcome, turning circle available’. Obviously that wagon caters for discerning lorry drivers.
Paul-H:
Hey Orys, at least in Poland you have entertainment provided in the laybys, the Rumanian ladies who constantly wave to cars as they pass. I was driving for Salvessenon a night trunk and noticed a sign by a layby ‘Lorries Welcome, turning circle available’. Obviously that wagon caters for discerning lorry drivers.
Yeah, “Order the ■■■■■■■■■■■, HIV for free!”
you might get a Free cup of tea 
I was driving along the A14 this morning and the guy I was with said that burger vans etc. arent allowed in the laybys along there after we had just seen one. Laybys are for driver`s to take a rest, not for people to sell undercooked meat…
Coffeeholic:
What classes as a long lorry driver? I think any driver less than 5’ 6" would not be classed as long and a pretty good case could be made for 5’10" and less. Some may even argue 6’ would be the minimum before a driver could be classed as long.
I’m overlength then as I’m 6’6"… 
Parked in a layby once in herefordshire late at night, woke up at 6am to find a mlkman had deliverd 2 pints of milk outside my cab. Lovely jubbly i thought, took one, when leaving layby passed a guy coming in towing a burger van. thought mmm Milk, Burger van, morning tea, better scarper.
FBI
JLS Driver SOS:
Parked in a layby once in herefordshire late at night, woke up at 6am to find a mlkman had deliverd 2 pints of milk outside my cab. Lovely jubbly i thought, took one, when leaving layby passed a guy coming in towing a burger van. thought mmm Milk, Burger van, morning tea, better scarper.FBI
should have given him a little toot and the thumbs up as you passed.
Quinny:
Or ring the local council and ask for a copy of her traders licence.Ken.
Or her Hygeine Certificate!
‘Crazytrucker’
so what is the legal requirements of the layby my understanding was they were built for tired motorists not for greasy spoons, i mean surely they carnt rent a whole layby, it would be good to here the definitive answer cos if i need to park up and sleep trust me i will be doing just that but if i no am legally doing it will make me sleep much happier
dustylfc:
so what is the legal requirements of the layby my understanding was they were built for tired motorists not for greasy spoons, i mean surely they carnt rent a whole layby, it would be good to here the definitive answer cos if i need to park up and sleep trust me i will be doing just that but if i no am legally doing it will make me sleep much happier
The only requirement for parking in a layby is that at night you have to have your parking lights on. If there are no signs, markings on the kerb or carriageway telling you otherwise you can park there.
so basically these food vans pay just to serve food on that layby and dont legally have any right to tell any motorist were to park, am very curious to no cos i hate people waking me up, just as much as a fridge parked next to me
Nope nor do they have the powers to try to fine you or clamp you. There are some who could move you on like police officers and probably the highways agency but I think they would need a better reason to make you break your rest period than ‘matey boy wants to set his salmonella stool up’.
exactly what i thought no one can make you break the law. i think the butty van in the layby at junction 15/ m6 put cones out which is a simple and easyway of eliminating possible arguments unless a driver decides to run over them
Paul-H:
Hey Orys, at least in Poland you have entertainment provided in the laybys, the Rumanian ladies who constantly wave to cars as they pass. I was driving for Salvessenon a night trunk and noticed a sign by a layby ‘Lorries Welcome, turning circle available’. Obviously that wagon caters for discerning lorry drivers.
Could be this is where the long lorries come in
On my first couple of visits to Czechoslovakia I used to see and avoid the lay-bys with the sign on the tree!
SEKT.
It was only one night when I had to blow some diesel, another British driver pulled in, went through the woods and came back carrying a couple of bottles that I realised what it was
Wheel Nut:
Paul-H:
Hey Orys, at least in Poland you have entertainment provided in the laybys, the Rumanian ladies who constantly wave to cars as they pass. I was driving for Salvessenon a night trunk and noticed a sign by a layby ‘Lorries Welcome, turning circle available’. Obviously that wagon caters for discerning lorry drivers.Could be this is where the long lorries come in
On my first couple of visits to Czechoslovakia I used to see and avoid the lay-bys with the sign on the tree!
SEKT.
It was only one night when I had to blow some diesel, another British driver pulled in, went through the woods and came back carrying a couple of bottles that I realised what it was
“blow some diesel” in a dodgy lay by 
. . . never heard it called that before
dustylfc:
so basically these food vans pay just to serve food on that layby and dont legally have any right to tell any motorist were to park, am very curious to no cos i hate people waking me up, just as much as a fridge parked next to me
In East Sussex the burger van operators pay a substantial rent to the County Council for a pitch in a lay-bye, they are told where they must park and any deviation from that is a breach of that rental agreement. However, this does not give them any powers to ask other drivers to move even if they are parked in the pitch allocated for the trader. In some Lay-byes the council have marked the traders pitch with yellow lines and a sign stating that parking is for the trader only, but he still has no powers to ask you to move, only the police or parking wardens can do that (or clamp/ticket you)
All the licenced burger vans are required to have hygiene certificates before the licence to operate in a lay-bye is granted, they are also told the hours they can operate by the council.
shuttlespanker:
i had one in the lay by just off the A14 heading into St Ives, i parked for the night, was rudely awoken the next morning by the snack man banging on my door stating i was parked in “his” spoti asked him if he rented it off the council or actually owned it, the answer to both was not surprisingly “no”
so, i duly told him to go away ■■■■■■■■
i also told him that if he knocked on my door again if the curtains were closed, i would gladly repay the favour by knocking on his teeth
do not ever eat there you will regret it filthy white coat he wears and before he starts he light a little bonfire just outside the cafe door
my wife owns a snack bar on measham ind est just of the a42 and its clean and good food thats the advertising over,all snack bars and roadside cafes in northwest leicestershire have to pay £350 per year for the spot plus buisness rates if someone parks in her spot there is nothing she can do about it except ask nice and offer a free drink,its the same when the council use laybys for parking heaps of stone or tarmac equipment its tough there is nothing the owner can do about it.none of the owners have the right to ask anyone to move its just unlucky for them.
Having covered a good few bad vans what about good uns? I think one of the best is sheffield bound on the a628.Good grub pleasant service and clean.Only prob half the time is getting parked as the lay by is always full .
regards dave.
alfamale66:
I stopped to take a phone call for 2 mins this mornin on Salthouse road Brackmills, and within 30 seconds had the salmonella van operative knockin on my cab , " are you gonna buy anything from me?? ", NO . " did you see the sign?? ".NO,. he then said that he rents out all of the roadside and that if i didnt move i would be ticketed and clamped!!,and then proceeds to take pics of me with his phone??.
Now i dont know if the signs up are official ones or he has put them up himself? but as i pointed out as far as i could see i was not in contravention of any parking restriction and he should go back to his van and stop bothering me. The amazing thing was this was at 8am and he had no customers there anyway . and i was parked at least 200 yrds from his van and he had another 200yrds on the other side too.all of wich was totally empty!!. Somehow dont think i will be pleasuring him with my custom in the future … ■■■■■■!!!
Just too raise on old thread, I had to stop at 4h32 today, ILLEGALLY cos of this knobhead. I had to pull in in the hatched section at the end of this lay-by. Now, as we all know, BY LAW, we must take our break, so if that layby was the only availble parking space, what could he legally do about it??
SOD ALL, thats what, and as for him getting violent, I would very quickly be showing him that my truck wont fit in his poxy scab kitchen. 
Just out of interest, tell us more about his Angels visit.