Lay-by tea stalls

please dont tell me the HA/councils are “renting” out lay-by’s to private companies so they can charge people to park in them :question: :confused: :confused: NCP would have a field day…

can this legally be done? renting out entire laybys and the renter can then prohibit people from taking their 45 mins break in said layby if the driver wasnt going to buy anything.

what if a truck driver pulled in, he was told to move because burger man owned the entire layby and 20 mins down the road that driver still looking for a safe place to stop has an accident because he was tired and couldnt take his break :question: :neutral_face: :neutral_face:

he will even get agresive and wake you up when on break on bmills he has been known to hit drivers

JISL to ESL:
we’ll all go and block her passage…

WTF!! Count me out of that one!! :open_mouth: :wink:

Name them on here and we’ll all ring environmental health individually, tell them we stopped there for a bite to eat and were very ill afterwards. :laughing:

If they’re claiming space & provide food & drink there should be a toilet too in my opinion. Maybe thats what the side with no window is for? :wink:

No problem with them being there but as far as i’m concerned a layby thats part of the public highway is for anyone to use, nooone has any more right than anyone else.

easy2004:
he will even get agresive and wake you up when on break on bmills he has been known to hit drivers

With a bit of look he will “wake up” the wrong driver one day then, and get whats coming to him :laughing: :laughing:

tonyhogi:
Had exactly the same :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: except the ******** banged on the door waking me up :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :exclamation: :exclamation: :imp: :imp: gave him some friendly advice of where to go :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :wink:

I had the same thing happen on an industrial estate in Rugby, mouthy fat bird banging on the door telling me to move so they could get their salmonella machine in its spot, I told them to foxtrot oscar, they then blocked me in with the trailer behind & the car in front, now I hate being woken up at the best of times, so was quite prepared to back straight over their silly little trailer & told them so, in the end it all turned a bit nasty, I thought about ringing the old bill, but instead decided on a more direct method, when the bloke, who was hiding behind his fat bird while she was calling me all the names under the sun, went to get the bread out of the boot of the car that they had parked in front of me I slammed the lid down on his canister & we had a bout of fisticuffs, although it was a rather one sided affair :open_mouth:

I never eat from them anyway, no facility without running water or a toilet should be able to prepare & sell food :unamused:

My mate is a night tramper and he managed to park up in the layby just off the M6 jcn16.
Pulled his card and 5 mins later the snack wagon turns up and asks him if he could move for him,my mate told him yes 10 hrs 50 mins time.He said the chaps face was a picture!!.
My mate pulled the curtains and went back to bed.

As for that prat on Brackmills,ask him about the Hells Angels who visited him a few years ago!!!
Lets just say he mouthed off to the wrong driver that day.hehehehe!

Cruise Control:
can this legally be done? renting out entire laybys and the renter can then prohibit people from taking their 45 mins break in said layby if the driver wasnt going to buy anything.

enforcement can only be carried out by whoever the council appoints ie NCP, europark or their own enforcers. There will need to be clearly marked lines on the road and kerbs as well as signs telling you (proper signs that is) the waiting restrictions. Also a tip; you will get far further calmly explaining your situation to a traffic warden/enforcement officer than shouting "Where the ■■■■ else am I supposed to load/park/scratch my ■■■■■■■■? at them.

Coffeeholic:

Grayham:
There was an old guy who had a snack van in the layby on the A20 Wrotham Heath (just up from Oakdene cafe) had a sign up saying “no long lorry drivers”

What classes as a long lorry driver? I think any driver less than 5’ 6" would not be classed as long and a pretty good case could be made for 5’10" and less. Some may even argue 6’ would be the minimum before a driver could be classed as long. :wink:

In my Polish ID card I have description of myself and there is written “Height: Tall”… So I guess it’s not for me…

I was driving my car from Poland once, and I stopped near the morning somewhere on the south parts of A1. I was just too tired to continue driving and decided to take a couple of hours sleep in my car.

Suddenly the sound of horn woke me up. There was a transit van towing a snax box and the driver after honking for some time come to me and ordered me to move as “this is the place where he always park his snax van”. I was so sleepy that I moved forward before answering “and today you will have to park 4 metres further down the road” but that paid out, as after short snooze he started his power generator and the further sleeping was out of question, when he saw that I woke up, he bring me a cup of coffe to my car as a apologies :slight_smile: Very nice of him.

Unfortunately I don’t remember where it was :blush:

newmercman:
we had a bout of fisticuffs, although it was a rather one sided affair :open_mouth:

Come on nmm, admit it.You lost. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

i had one in the lay by just off the A14 heading into St Ives, i parked for the night, was rudely awoken the next morning by the snack man banging on my door stating i was parked in “his” spot :unamused:

i asked him if he rented it off the council or actually owned it, the answer to both was not surprisingly “no”

so, i duly told him to go away ■■■■■■■■ :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

i also told him that if he knocked on my door again if the curtains were closed, i would gladly repay the favour by knocking on his teeth :sunglasses:

You sure he didn’t bop you over the head with a tyre iron Mr Spanky ? :smiley:

waddy640:
Do those people that operate tea/burger bars think they own the lay-by?

A couple of days ago I was on 4hrs 25mins and pulled into a lay-by. As it was nearly full I ended up parking on the approach slip road, although I was well clear of the carriageway.

The tea bar was at the far end, car plus trailer plus table and chairs. Taking up the space of an artic.

Anyway the operator of bar comes up and asks how long I am going to be because I am stopping customers getting in to lay-by.

She then insisted that I could put move into a space about fifteen feet longer than rig. When I politely declined she took a photo and then phoned my firm and complained.

A good exercise in customer relations.

they pay rent for the spot there parked on, so tell her to zb off and make me a bloody tea lol

mickyblue:

waddy640:
Do those people that operate tea/burger bars think they own the lay-by?

A couple of days ago I was on 4hrs 25mins and pulled into a lay-by. As it was nearly full I ended up parking on the approach slip road, although I was well clear of the carriageway.

The tea bar was at the far end, car plus trailer plus table and chairs. Taking up the space of an artic.

Anyway the operator of bar comes up and asks how long I am going to be because I am stopping customers getting in to lay-by.

She then insisted that I could put move into a space about fifteen feet longer than rig. When I politely declined she took a photo and then phoned my firm and complained.

A good exercise in customer relations.

they pay rent for the spot there parked on, so tell her to zb off and make me a bloody tea lol

According to the burger flipper on Brackmills , he rents the whole parking area , knob jockey!!! :unamused:

Im not going to say whereabouts this happened on the A1 but about two years ago I was parked up in a layby when greasy joe knocked on the door about 6am saying I was in "his " spot !!

After a lot of talking and a “little chat” :unamused: I persuaded him to leave me alone. I can confidently garantee he wont do it again… !! :open_mouth:

Buycrider:

newmercman:
we had a bout of fisticuffs, although it was a rather one sided affair :open_mouth:

Come on nmm, admit it.You lost. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

No my pride remained intact, can’t say I would’ve been as lucky with his fat missus though :laughing: :laughing:

Next time you are over here on holiday, nmm, get together with steve the argonaut, and go and have a “little chat” with the Salmonella Vendor at Brackmills Industrial Estate. :wink: :wink: It looks like he,s urgently in need of a lesson in customer relations. :open_mouth: :open_mouth: I,d go meself, but I,m busy with washing the pots, and planting me spuds just now. :laughing: :laughing: Oh!! and goin ■■■■■■ shoppin :blush: :blush:

shuttlespanker:
i had one in the lay by just off the A14 heading into St Ives, i parked for the night, was rudely awoken the next morning by the snack man banging on my door stating i was parked in “his” spot :unamused:

i asked him if he rented it off the council or actually owned it, the answer to both was not surprisingly “no”

so, i duly told him to go away ■■■■■■■■ :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

i also told him that if he knocked on my door again if the curtains were closed, i would gladly repay the favour by knocking on his teeth :sunglasses:

spanky you just had a dream which you thought was reality, you never do nighs out cause your always home by lunchtime from an 11am start

gogzy:

shuttlespanker:
i had one in the lay by just off the A14 heading into St Ives, i parked for the night, was rudely awoken the next morning by the snack man banging on my door stating i was parked in “his” spot :unamused:

i asked him if he rented it off the council or actually owned it, the answer to both was not surprisingly “no”

so, i duly told him to go away ■■■■■■■■ :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

i also told him that if he knocked on my door again if the curtains were closed, i would gladly repay the favour by knocking on his teeth :sunglasses:

spanky you just had a dream which you thought was reality, you never do nighs out cause your always home by lunchtime from an 11am start

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AB7IDw3PNI

this was a while ago Gogzy, when i was still doing the tramping
:unamused: