Every now & again we’ll get a trailer dropped in our yard with the landing leg handle hooked around the outside of the sideguard. Now this isn’t a problem normally as i scoop them up off the ground anyway, but if they’re loaded heavy & have been dropped high, it can be a right pain. I’m guessing it’d also be a right pain if you happened to walk into one in the dark, although i’ve not had the pleasure. I’ve not spotted anyone doing it to ask them why, does anyone on here do it? Is there any reason behind it?
Roger Breaker:
Every now & again we’ll get a trailer dropped in our yard with the landing leg handle hooked around the outside of the sideguard. Now this isn’t a problem normally as i scoop them up off the ground anyway, but if they’re loaded heavy & have been dropped high, it can be a right pain. I’m guessing it’d also be a right pain if you happened to walk into one in the dark, although i’ve not had the pleasure. I’ve not spotted anyone doing it to ask them why, does anyone on here do it? Is there any reason behind it?
I going to assume that either the securing hook is missing or they are too lazy …
Well, the securing hook isn’t missing on any of them, and the laziest plan of action would be to just let it swing down, which is what i do when i drop them as i don’t see that there’s any need for them to be secured whilst sitting on the trailer park.
Roger Breaker:
Well, the securing hook isn’t missing on any of them, and the laziest plan of action would be to just let it swing down, which is what i do when i drop them as i don’t see that there’s any need for them to be secured whilst sitting on the trailer park.
Easier to get hold of without stooping 
Obviously, when i say
Roger Breaker:
let it swing down
, i clearly mean ‘place it gently back against the legs so as not to chip the paintwork’ 
ROG:
Easier to get hold of without stooping
Maybe marginally, but you’re still not convincing me ROG!
asda have a holding clip on the chassis behind the side skirt and always clip it back in just to be tidy…
but the other day i had a teerible job at 1.30 am in the pouring rain so was not happy 
but i lifted the trailer on the suspension and the arm swung down.
Roger Breaker:
ROG:
Easier to get hold of without stoopingMaybe marginally, but you’re still not convincing me ROG!
how about
“dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i don’t know where it supposed to go”
as in after a day or 2 on same wagon driver says to another driver “where’s the bonnet catch”
Roger Breaker:
Every now & again we’ll get a trailer dropped in our yard with the landing leg handle hooked around the outside of the sideguard. Now this isn’t a problem normally as i scoop them up off the ground anyway, but if they’re loaded heavy & have been dropped high, it can be a right pain.
Why? You do know there’s a position inbetween low and high speed which is in effect a neutral and disconnects the shaft from the gears thus allowing the handle to freely rotate?
what really pees me off is when there to bloody lazy to even tuck them under and leave stuck out ready for the next bloke idiots
Not stowing a handle is not completing the job: Any job…
If it can’t be stowed, would it pass MoT?
dreva:
what really pees me off is when there to bloody lazy to even tuck them under and leave stuck out ready for the next bloke idiots
the only time i ever do that is when im swapping trailers with someone and they are present. otherwise it gets tucked away.
if the clip is missing it gets secured some other way ie bungee or seal etc
I just do it on purpose to get those lazy tug drivers out of their warm cosy Terberg cabs and into the rain like the rest of us 
A dropped trailer isnt going to be going for an MOT is it? 
Conor:
Roger Breaker:
Every now & again we’ll get a trailer dropped in our yard with the landing leg handle hooked around the outside of the sideguard. Now this isn’t a problem normally as i scoop them up off the ground anyway, but if they’re loaded heavy & have been dropped high, it can be a right pain.Why? You do know there’s a position inbetween low and high speed which is in effect a neutral and disconnects the shaft from the gears thus allowing the handle to freely rotate?
Yeah, i had heard a rumour 
This is what i mean…
Can’t remember if this particular one was too much of a problem, sometimes they’re wedged inside the sideguard too, and if you can’t get the weight off them it’s hard to move them at all. Anyone who’s encountered it will know what i’m running on about.
Roger Breaker:
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Can’t remember if this particular one was too much of a problem, sometimes they’re wedged inside the sideguard too, and if you can’t get the weight off them it’s hard to move them at all. Anyone who’s encountered it will know what i’m running on about.
Yes, and if you lift the handle up a bit, you can shove it in a little so it’s in neutral which then allows you to put the handle wherever you want and then you can shove it in a bit more which will give you low gear and you can lift up a 38 tonne trailer in low gear with very little effort. That’s why there’s a low, neutral and high gear on landing legs.
Conor:
‘…you can lift up a 38 tonne trailer in low gear with very little effort…’
So maybe I can quietly save face by wanging the legs down in low ratio if I ever drop a trailer on its knees somewhere quiet…apart from grit on the trailer 5th wheel plate, a knacked pin (?) & the load maybe telling a few tales on me?
Conor:
Yes, and if you lift the handle up a bit, you can shove it in a little so it’s in neutral which then allows you to put the handle wherever you want and then you can shove it in a bit more which will give you low gear and you can lift up a 38 tonne trailer in low gear with very little effort. That’s why there’s a low, neutral and high gear on landing legs.
I think you’re missing my point mate, i have just about figured out how to operate landing legs over the past 20 years or so I’ll explain the inside the sideguard problem as it’s probably easier to grasp… Say you dropped a loaded trailer with your unit’s suspension at full height. Then when the legs were about to touch the ground, you lowered the handle to it’s hanging position, then turned it in that position so that the handle was behind the sideguard with the ‘elbow’ positioned so as it’s kind of locked in the guard itself. Then if someone else picks it up and is unable to lift the trailer quite as high on their suspension, it’s tricky to move the handle at all as it’s kind of jammed in , making it awkward to change the gear, and the only way to pull it out from behing the guard is to wind the legs in the down direction even more. The outside the sideguard situation is similar, as the handle elbow is again locked into the guard making it difficult to move in any direction. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not actually ever ruined my whole day, and I’m sure i’ll get myself out of the situation again in the future as i have in the past, but i was just puzzled as to why some people would do this rather than just stowing the handle normally. Obviously i have a nutter working at my place who is the only person in the country to do this!
Sometimes have the handle really tight against the legs even when stowed in the clip. I can only think that when stowed on first uncoupling the dropping by shunters when moving to various bays, maybe 4 or 5 moves, has the legs slightly retracting and drives the mechanism which turns the handle tight against the legs. Hope that makes sense.
A colleague doing all that shenanigans on max unit height before dropping should earn the guilty dude a slapping …and create a job for the trusty Swiss Army hammer & drift from one’s Tardis bag. Persuading the ratio change spindle in/out a bit to amend the locked geometry might afford a bit of slack on the elongated handle slot. Or remove the attachment pin with an adjustable & some moleys …from the Tardis bag of course…whilst not forgetting that one has a day-job too.
What’s your priority to nobble the dude?
Roger Breaker:
Conor:
Yes, and if you lift the handle up a bit, you can shove it in a little so it’s in neutral which then allows you to put the handle wherever you want and then you can shove it in a bit more which will give you low gear and you can lift up a 38 tonne trailer in low gear with very little effort. That’s why there’s a low, neutral and high gear on landing legs.I think you’re missing my point mate, i have just about figured out how to operate landing legs over the past 20 years or so
That’ll be one of those quality non english speaking red cab pilots Rog
For a while we had a ■■■■ about here who would drop his trailer with unit fully raised. I guess he’s moved on, i don’t miss him! Trailers dropped low pees me off. I haven’t any skids, don’t believe in them,