fingermissing:
Why couldn’t the highways vehicle just pull him or her out?.They have got 4 x4 so it should be easy.
Any number of reasons, was the vehicle full loaded? were the wheels stuck right in the mud? The officers might not have been enhanced carriageway clearance trained, the load cell in the patrol car may have been faulty meaning they can only drag 3 tonnes - or they’ve tried and the overweight alarm on the load cell has gone off.
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Any excuse to stand about in a nice shiny new hi-viz and look good.
The load cell, enhanced trained, you don’t need training to throw a strap round a vehicle, engage low range, diff locks in, and pull, Might need to use common sense and think un-aided without training.
There is a 14"3 bridge just in front of him there, he has clearly had a panic attack and taken desperate measures.
Can’t have been looking that far down the road in front though or at signs, like another poster has just said there is a massive box junction just behind where he could have spun around easily.
rob22888:
There is a 14"3 bridge just in front of him there, he has clearly had a panic attack and taken desperate measures.
Can’t have been looking that far down the road in front though or at signs, like another poster has just said there is a massive box junction just behind where he could have spun around easily.
Also there’s signage on the roundabout,and before at the lights.
fingermissing:
Why couldn’t the highways vehicle just pull him or her out?.They have got 4 x4 so it should be easy.
Any number of reasons, was the vehicle full loaded? were the wheels stuck right in the mud? The officers might not have been enhanced carriageway clearance trained, the load cell in the patrol car may have been faulty meaning they can only drag 3 tonnes - or they’ve tried and the overweight alarm on the load cell has gone off.
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Any excuse to stand about in a nice shiny new hi-viz and look good.
The load cell, enhanced trained, you don’t need training to throw a strap round a vehicle, engage low range, diff locks in, and pull, Might need to use common sense and think un-aided without training.
However easy a task might be it all comes down to covering yourself. My company tell me I’m not allowed to use a pallet truck unless I’ve had the induction on one. They tell me if I choose to use one anyway then if I pull my back out in doing so I will not be able to claim against the company because I’ve been told not to use it.
Same thing, it’s all about covering your arse these days. Those officers probably know they can pull it out, but if they’ve been told not to without the “training” then if something goes wrong then it’s them who have to face the bosses on a disciplinary to explain why they’ve done something they’ve been instructed not to do.
rob22888:
There is a 14"3 bridge just in front of him there, he has clearly had a panic attack and taken desperate measures.
Can’t have been looking that far down the road in front though or at signs, like another poster has just said there is a massive box junction just behind where he could have spun around easily.
Also there’s signage on the roundabout,and before at the lights.
Agency with car sat nav ?
Nah. If it was agency with car sat nav he would have carried on and hit the bridge. This is an employed driver who has made a mistake.
biggriffin:
… you don’t need training to throw a strap round a vehicle, engage low range, diff locks in, and pull …
Except when doing so likely results in getting a disiplinary due to management not understanding that the people doing the job can actually make sensible decisions.
Suspect they forget these are the same people said management send out to stand on live motorways and hope the rest of us are paying attention. But thats desk jockey managers for you.
As for doing the uturn if it was near an asda entrance he wouldnt have a hope of turning. Too many people in chelsea tractors who cant possibly be inconvenienced by 30 seconds to let a truck reverse.
Why do you all keep saying: Driver made a mistake `…NO he never, he deliberately drove over a grass verge…then got stuck…no one in their right mind would attempt that, they would go to the next safe turning point be it a traffic signal or a roundabout. If he had succeeded he would have damaged the verge & Carried the dirt and mud across the carriageway, i hope he get points and a fine…if only to stop other idiot drivers from doing the same.
Whenever these posts crop up on here I wait with breath baited for the culprit to 'fess up but it never happens
Surely one of these clowns is a member on here?
truckyboy:
Why do you all keep saying: Driver made a mistake `…NO he never, he deliberately drove over a grass verge…then got stuck…no one in their right mind would attempt that.
I’d have rephrased it as “He made a bad judgement choosing to drive over the grass verge”
Maybe… with traffic backed up behind him, he chose not to reverse it to the box junction
peirre:
Maybe… with traffic backed up behind him, he chose not to reverse it to the box junction
Hazards on…
Get out. Tell the first car driver behind you what the problem is and in my experience the rest of the queue are usually forgiving and either back up, go around or sit there muttering what a ■■■■ you are for driving a lorry across all those fluffy bunnies and ruining their day.
Engage reverse and get on with it.
my personal best was over two miles somewhere in wales in my daf 3300 on a trip to collect some slate.
fingermissing:
Why couldn’t the highways vehicle just pull him or her out?.They have got 4 x4 so it should be easy.
Any number of reasons, was the vehicle full loaded? were the wheels stuck right in the mud? The officers might not have been enhanced carriageway clearance trained, the load cell in the patrol car may have been faulty meaning they can only drag 3 tonnes - or they’ve tried and the overweight alarm on the load cell has gone off.
If your last sentence is correct fair play.
On the other hand ‘‘Enhanced carriageway clearance trained’’ ? …I mean come on, a ■■■■■■■■ the 4x4 rear tow hook attached to the front hook on the unit, and rock both vehicles in unison.
I usually support you guys on here when the unfounded abuse is chucked at you by a lot of members, because you are only doing a job.
However to use H&S/corporate jargon ■■■■■■■■ as a reason for not trying?..Really?
Have a look at that vid of 1979 winter on the M62 where those Police Range Rovers were screaming their balls off when pulling that lad out of the snow.
Don’t for a minute think those lads were ‘‘Enhanced carriageway clearance trained’’ either, they just got on with it.
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It’s not 1979 anymore Robroy. Everything is an arse covering exercise now. Some health and safety manager (who’s probably never towed anything in their life) is probably worrying about the tow strap snapping under tension and chopping some poor innocent bystander in two. As we always used to say, “how big is that bit of paper, is it big enough to cover your arse?”
On a side note, I wonder if the lads who torched their car by trying to pull a truck out of the snow on the M62 recently were “carriageway clearance” trained?
fingermissing:
Why couldn’t the highways vehicle just pull him or her out?.They have got 4 x4 so it should be easy.
Any number of reasons, was the vehicle full loaded? were the wheels stuck right in the mud? The officers might not have been enhanced carriageway clearance trained, the load cell in the patrol car may have been faulty meaning they can only drag 3 tonnes - or they’ve tried and the overweight alarm on the load cell has gone off.
If your last sentence is correct fair play.
On the other hand ‘‘Enhanced carriageway clearance trained’’ ? …I mean come on, a ■■■■■■■■ the 4x4 rear tow hook attached to the front hook on the unit, and rock both vehicles in unison.
I usually support you guys on here when the unfounded abuse is chucked at you by a lot of members, because you are only doing a job.
However to use H&S/corporate jargon ■■■■■■■■ as a reason for not trying?..Really?
Have a look at that vid of 1979 winter on the M62 where those Police Range Rovers were screaming their balls off when pulling that lad out of the snow.
Don’t for a minute think those lads were ‘‘Enhanced carriageway clearance trained’’ either, they just got on with it.
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If you haven’t received the carriageway clearance training using the load cell, you can’t pull more than 3 ton. Our cars are now fitted with CCTV. It’s not a case of chucking a ■■■■■■■■ the wagon and pulling it clear. Who pays for the repair bill if it goes wrong? Plus it’s off network, our hands are tied, I know it sounds like a cop out, but it’s not our road, it’s down to county council/police to sort out.
fingermissing:
Why couldn’t the highways vehicle just pull him or her out?.They have got 4 x4 so it should be easy.
Any number of reasons, was the vehicle full loaded? were the wheels stuck right in the mud? The officers might not have been enhanced carriageway clearance trained, the load cell in the patrol car may have been faulty meaning they can only drag 3 tonnes - or they’ve tried and the overweight alarm on the load cell has gone off.
If your last sentence is correct fair play.
On the other hand ‘‘Enhanced carriageway clearance trained’’ ? …I mean come on, a ■■■■■■■■ the 4x4 rear tow hook attached to the front hook on the unit, and rock both vehicles in unison.
I usually support you guys on here when the unfounded abuse is chucked at you by a lot of members, because you are only doing a job.
However to use H&S/corporate jargon ■■■■■■■■ as a reason for not trying?..Really?
Have a look at that vid of 1979 winter on the M62 where those Police Range Rovers were screaming their balls off when pulling that lad out of the snow.
Don’t for a minute think those lads were ‘‘Enhanced carriageway clearance trained’’ either, they just got on with it.
,
It’s not 1979 anymore Robroy. Everything is an arse covering exercise now. Some health and safety manager (who’s probably never towed anything in their life) is probably worrying about the tow strap snapping under tension and chopping some poor innocent bystander in two. As we always used to say, “how big is that bit of paper, is it big enough to cover your arse?”
On a side note, I wonder if the lads who torched their car by trying to pull a truck out of the snow on the M62 recently were “carriageway clearance” trained?
They were as they were using the load cell. The car wasn’t involved in towing when it went up. It was an overheated heater matrix that caused it.
BossHogg:
Any number of reasons, was the vehicle full loaded? were the wheels stuck right in the mud? The officers might not have been enhanced carriageway clearance trained, the load cell in the patrol car may have been faulty meaning they can only drag 3 tonnes - or they’ve tried and the overweight alarm on the load cell has gone off.
If your last sentence is correct fair play.
On the other hand ‘‘Enhanced carriageway clearance trained’’ ? …I mean come on, a ■■■■■■■■ the 4x4 rear tow hook attached to the front hook on the unit, and rock both vehicles in unison.
I usually support you guys on here when the unfounded abuse is chucked at you by a lot of members, because you are only doing a job.
However to use H&S/corporate jargon ■■■■■■■■ as a reason for not trying?..Really?
Have a look at that vid of 1979 winter on the M62 where those Police Range Rovers were screaming their balls off when pulling that lad out of the snow.
Don’t for a minute think those lads were ‘‘Enhanced carriageway clearance trained’’ either, they just got on with it.
,
If you haven’t received the carriageway clearance training using the load cell, you can’t pull more than 3 ton. Our cars are now fitted with CCTV. It’s not a case of chucking a ■■■■■■■■ the wagon and pulling it clear. Who pays for the repair bill if it goes wrong? Plus it’s off network, our hands are tied, I know it sounds like a cop out, but it’s not our road, it’s down to county council/police to sort out.
As I said mate, not one for knocking your lot, and I can appreciate your hands are evidently tied.
I just find all this type of crap a bit pathetic where rules and regulations actually PREVENT you from doing your job rather than aid it.
This sort of ■■■■■■■■ really does my swede in where unnecessary h&s crap overrides common sense,.and everyone has to walk on eggshells to cover their arses.
That truck in reality could have been pulled out in 5 mins resulting in a non event…I used to tow jump start my own trucks with an XJS Jag ffs, let alone a modern 4x4, in years gone by.
…I mean come on, a ■■■■■■■■ the 4x4 rear tow hook attached to the front hook on the unit, and rock both vehicles in unison.
