big boots:
priority over oncomming vehicles is the blue one the big white arrow pointing forwards
give priority is the red circle with the bigger arrow pointing backwards.
Finally! So after all someone here is as familiar with British Highway Code what, as others suggested, should be universal between proffesional drivers
RobK:
You should make sure you have your own house in order first before criticising others… Shape of the signs aside, the actual markings on them and wording beneath is correct. Perhaps you should read the Highway Code to familiarise yourself with the UK road laws .
You should perhaps familiarise yourself with your own country road laws before advising others to do so, that would save you some embarassment after you notice what is wrong
ROG:
I see nowt wrong at all
The arrows are on the correct side and colour
With driving instructors like that, I now start to see why so many others have problem to notice what is wrong with that signage
What ROG is saying is correct, the arrows ARE correct to show which vehicles have priority. HOWEVER, they would normally be displayed the other way up and with the signs swapped around (end to end). The best has been made of a bad job it would seem by inverting the signs.
It’s strange that on a forum of vocational drivers there is any argument whatsoever about this.
switchlogic:
Best hand in my licence, cant see what’s wrong. They make sense to me.
Well, they make some sense, as the arrows are consistent with the wording underneath. However, the arrows are placed on the wrong signs (that have opposite meaning) put upside down.
It’s like, I don’t know, you can get from Glasgow to Edinburgh via Wick, but it would be easier and more obvious if you just went via M8… Except that going longer way is still fully ok with the law, while placing wrong signs upside down might (legally speaking) make them invalid. Or cause dangerous situation.
Imagine an French driver who don’t speak a word in English. He sees the sign, he has no idea what is written underneath but he sees a square, blue sign meaning he has priority. He thinks “oh, someone has turned the sign upside down, how silly” and he goes into the narrow bit. At the same time a British driver from the opposite side sees the signs and he thiks “oh, someone has put WRONG sign here, but the sign underneath says I have priority, how silly” and he goes into the narrow bit…
Bale Bandit:
It’s strange that on a forum of vocational drivers there is any argument whatsoever about this.
I am surprised by that as well. I just thought that we will all have some nice laugh at them. Obviously I underestimated famous British driving standards again
switchlogic:
Best hand in my licence, cant see what’s wrong. They make sense to me.
Well, they make some sense, as the arrows are consistent with the wording underneath. However, the arrows are placed on the wrong signs (that have opposite meaning) put upside down.
You’re wrong.
The arrows are correct for the signs (again, physical shape of the signs aside - I don’t believe they are from the same location).
First sign : large arrow pointing up and small arrow pointing down is correct for “priority over oncoming vehicles”.
Second sign : small arrow pointing up and large arrow pointing down is correct for “give way to oncoming vehicles/oncoming vehicles have priority” etc.
cupidstunt:
Unless the signs are at the same end of the same road I can’t see why the OP has his knickers in a twist?
Because both signs are upside down and at the opposite locations to where they should be.
He is stating that a better and far cheaper remedy would be to turn them the correct way up and swap them over rather than just leave them in situe and put extra explanatory signs underneath to cover up for the initial error.
Why do people have to be [zb] when someone posts about something they don’t understand?!
Could you please tell me what I am, the swear filter has edited the juicy bit.
I understand that the signs are technically incorrect and that they should be inverted and swapped over, I am not as thick as my user name would suggest.
The point I am making is that the signs convey the rules of the road adequately and I think that 99% of the population would understand what the priority is.
Contrary to your assertion that the signs underneath are to clarify the initial error in signage, they are ordinarily displayed as a matter of course and can be seen here; google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j& … GU&cad=rja
cupidstunt:
Could you please tell me what I am, the swear filter has edited the juicy bit.
I understand that the signs are technically incorrect and that they should be inverted and swapped over, I am not as thick as my user name would suggest.
The point I am making is that the signs convey the rules of the road adequately and I think that 99% of the population would understand what the priority is.
Contrary to your assertion that the signs underneath are to clarify the initial error in signage, they are ordinarily displayed as a matter of course and can be seen here; google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j& … GU&cad=rja
Well made point.It’s obvious what is meant-red arrow in your direction of travel - not your priority,and vice versa.
sorry but it’s just ■■■■ poor performance,we’ve got people on here saying “after realising the initial error they did this with the signs”,if they realised they’d ballsed up did their spanner suddenly implode and they could’nt change it right or could’nt they just be bothered.
if you did a delivery in the morning and dropped a pallet too many at the last job would your gaffer say it’s fine as long as nobody was around and you got away with it,we’ll just short the next poor sod,he wont notice.
Your 100% correct orys, the highway code says the round sign with the red border means “give way to oncoming vehicles”
the square sign with blue background imforms you that “traffic has priorty over oncoming vehicles”
This pic shows the view from both sides of a traffic calming thingy in brixworth which uses the signs the correct way up
cupidstunt:
Unless the signs are at the same end of the same road I can’t see why the OP has his knickers in a twist?
Because both signs are upside down and at the opposite locations to where they should be.
He is stating that a better and far cheaper remedy would be to turn them the correct way up and swap them over rather than just leave them in situe and put extra explanatory signs underneath to cover up for the initial error.
Why do people have to be [zb] when someone posts about something they don’t understand?!
Could you please tell me what I am, the swear filter has edited the juicy bit.
I understand that the signs are technically incorrect and that they should be inverted and swapped over, I am not as thick as my user name would suggest.
The point I am making is that the signs convey the rules of the road adequately and I think that 99% of the population would understand what the priority is.
Contrary to your assertion that the signs underneath are to clarify the initial error in signage, they are ordinarily displayed as a matter of course and can be seen here; google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j& … GU&cad=rja
The edited bit was an alternative to bottom holes.
I just can’t accept that these signs are acceptable whether 99% of the population understand or not. Drivers who are not part of the population need to understand also.
Signs are supposed to indicate what YOU are doing or to do, not people in the other direction which is what, in essence the inverted signs are doing. The Blue sign is supposed to have the arrow facing up to tell YOU that YOU have priority over oncoming traffic and vice versa with the red circle which is an obligatory YOU must give way to oncoming traffic.
Given that you MUST comply with red circles but not necessarily with Blue rectangles, if they are inverted you could end up with some very sticky situations with the red meaning ‘You MUST go through as you have priority’ and the other meaning ‘You should really give way to on coming traffic really if you fancy’.
coreysboys:
Given that you MUST comply with red circles but not necessarily with Blue rectangles, if they are inverted you could end up with some very sticky situations with the red meaning ‘You MUST go through as you have priority’ and the other meaning ‘You should really give way to on coming traffic really if you fancy’.
My point exactly. Say I can’t speak English and therefore I can make up only from what I see on the sings. How on Earth I can know, that I should obey the arrows as how they are placed and not the general shape of the sign?
I know I am, that’s why I am so amazed about all these comments from supposedly proffesional drivers that can’t see a problem. Of course it is not a big deal, especially that it was inside some factory, still it is not the way it should be.
coreysboys:
Given that you MUST comply with red circles but not necessarily with Blue rectangles, if they are inverted you could end up with some very sticky situations with the red meaning ‘You MUST go through as you have priority’ and the other meaning ‘You should really give way to on coming traffic really if you fancy’.
My point exactly. Say I can’t speak English and therefore I can make up only from what I see on the sings. How on Earth I can know, that I should obey the arrows as how they are placed and not the general shape of the sign?
Which then begs the question of what you would do/did when coming across these signs?
Presumably as they are not technically correct and you are unable to read the words underneath, you would come to a grinding halt and not be able to proceed without being told exactly who has priority?
Or maybe you would do/did what everyone else would do and assess the situation at the time and proceed if safe, thereby negating the need for the sign in the first place?
I was waiting for it. Obviously earlier or later someone would be unable to stand, that I, a Pole, dare to criticize something British…
As for your link, funny, I didn’t knew that one, although I am a keen collector of anti-Polish jokes. My favourite so far is:
Q: What is a difference between a Pole and E.T.?
A: E.T. can speak English and wants go home
cupidstunt:
Or maybe you would do/did what everyone else would do and assess the situation at the time and proceed if safe, thereby negating the need for the sign in the first place?
I was waiting for it. Obviously earlier or later someone would be unable to stand, that I, a Pole, dare to criticize something British…
As for your link, funny, I didn’t knew that one, although I am a keen collector of anti-Polish jokes. My favourite so far is:
Q: What is a difference between a Pole and E.T.?
A: E.T. can speak English and wants go home
Untwist your ■■■■■■■ junior. I wasn’t having a pop Hence the “sarcasm” notation.
You’re so quick to jump on your high horse FFS
orys:
My point exactly. Say I can’t speak English and therefore I can make up only from what I see on the sings. How on Earth I can know, that I should obey the arrows as how they are placed and not the general shape of the sign?
Say I didn’t speak Polish then…
Ermm no cars (with grill badges), stealth bombers or fancy dress ■■?
Disclaimer : this post is merely humorous entertainment before Orys vaults back onto his high horse