Are we seeing another Wolter koops situation?
How long until de Rooys HQ goes up in flames and all their records get destroyed?
Themoocher:
robroy:
Themoocher:
I still don’t see what the problem is with drivers wages.I’ve come to the conclusion trucking is more of a lifestyle than a job.
I try and do 3 x 15 and 2 x 13 + 4 nights out every week.
In reality I have very rarely worked more than 48hrs in a week.
I think clearing £550-600 for the work I do is a fair deal.Every industry in the UK is the same ruined.
All tradesmen are on the same or there about as they where 20 years ago.Everyone is on there a##e.
high mortgages, cost living through the roof and wages are the same as they where 20 years ago.I don’t care what anyone says eastern Europeans and foreigners are driving the wages into the ground.
The only people that are benefiting from the current migration levels are people with money.
it is crippling us tax payers and working men.Don’t want to comment on your political statements mate, but how do you define your 48 hrs ‘work’ and does the 5 to 600 quid include your nights out.
It doesn’t matter if you are driving unloading or sitting with your finger up your arse for 5 hrs waiting to tip…you are still workingThe fact that you are not doing back breaking manual labour is irrelevant, there is no correlation between hard work and good money, otherwise bin men would be better paid than solicitors.
As I said I find it more of a lifestyle choice.
I’m away 5 days so class that as 5 days making as much money as I can.
If your tramping can you really class waiting 5 hours to get tipped actual work?
I reckon my last reply to you answered that question 
Themoocher:
I still don’t see what the problem is with drivers wages.I’ve come to the conclusion trucking is more of a lifestyle than a job.
I try and do 3 x 15 and 2 x 13 + 4 nights out every week.
In reality I have very rarely worked more than 48hrs in a week.
I think clearing £550-600 for the work I do is a fair deal.Every industry in the UK is the same ruined.
All tradesmen are on the same or there about as they where 20 years ago.Everyone is on there a##e.
high mortgages, cost living through the roof and wages are the same as they where 20 years ago.I don’t care what anyone says eastern Europeans and foreigners are driving the wages into the ground.
The only people that are benefiting from the current migration levels are people with money.
it is crippling us tax payers and working men.
No it’s a job that pays the bills. Mind you looking at your hours it’s your life.
3x15? Not for me.
robroy:
Themoocher:
robroy:
Themoocher:
I still don’t see what the problem is with drivers wages.I’ve come to the conclusion trucking is more of a lifestyle than a job.
I try and do 3 x 15 and 2 x 13 + 4 nights out every week.
In reality I have very rarely worked more than 48hrs in a week.
I think clearing £550-600 for the work I do is a fair deal.Every industry in the UK is the same ruined.
All tradesmen are on the same or there about as they where 20 years ago.Everyone is on there a##e.
high mortgages, cost living through the roof and wages are the same as they where 20 years ago.I don’t care what anyone says eastern Europeans and foreigners are driving the wages into the ground.
The only people that are benefiting from the current migration levels are people with money.
it is crippling us tax payers and working men.Don’t want to comment on your political statements mate, but how do you define your 48 hrs ‘work’ and does the 5 to 600 quid include your nights out.
It doesn’t matter if you are driving unloading or sitting with your finger up your arse for 5 hrs waiting to tip…you are still workingAs I said I find it more of a lifestyle choice.
I’m away 5 days so class that as 5 days making as much money as I can.
If your tramping can you really class waiting 5 hours to get tipped actual work?I reckon my last reply to you answered that question
What other job would you get paid £150 to £180 a day and sit for hours with your thumb up your arse.
I have excepted the lifestyle been away from home for the money I’m earning.
I get paid a lot more now than I ever did in the army as a corporal even in Afghan.
I use to take home £1900 a month as a cpl.
I think a lot of people need a reality check and compare what they actually do as a vocation and what they earn.
Seany:
No it’s a job that pays the bills.
At last, someone who sees moving things from one factory/warehouse/whatever to another for what it is, rather than ‘a lifestyle’ (LOL).
Themoocher:
What other job would you get paid £150 to £180 a day and sit for hours with your thumb up your arse.
I have excepted the lifestyle been away from home for the money I’m earning.I get paid a lot more now than I ever did in the army as a corporal even in Afghan.
I use to take home £1900 a month as a cpl.I think a lot of people need a reality check and compare what they actually do as a vocation and what they earn.
If you are happy mate that’s all that matters, you don’t have to try and convince me.
I don’t need your advice on the job, or a ‘reality check’ either …done this job for more years than I want to remember thanks.
as above if your happy and all that,
my last payslip was a take home £535.21, i didnt need to earn £900 as you say to take home that. it was actually 692.13, and that was also underpaid as £40 of overtime was missing. Timesheet hours were 60, but two of the days were short days but i get the min 9 hours paid. So I “worked” loosly call it that 55 hours.
robroy:
Themoocher:
What other job would you get paid £150 to £180 a day and sit for hours with your thumb up your arse.
I have excepted the lifestyle been away from home for the money I’m earning.I get paid a lot more now than I ever did in the army as a corporal even in Afghan.
I use to take home £1900 a month as a cpl.I think a lot of people need a reality check and compare what they actually do as a vocation and what they earn.
If you are happy mate that’s all that matters, you don’t have to try and convince me.
I don’t need your advice on the job, or a ‘reality check’ either …done this job for more years than I want to remember thanks.
I don’t wAnt give you advice or a reality check.
You have properly forgot more than I know to be honest.
I don’t see what is hard about driving for the money that’s going in your bank every week.
I get paid from the minute I open my eyes till I finish then relax in the nights.
I’m not one for getting up commuting to work then rushing around all day to get home to commute back tired and stressed.
My brother in law is industrial plumber he is only clearing £450 a week 30k a year basic.
He is up at 05.30 doesn’t get in till 1800 at night so does the equivalent to over my 12hours everyday.
He done a 3 year apprenticeship.
So when I compare it to that it ain’t to shabby.
I enjoy the job earn what I think is ok money for the state the country is in.
Suits me and my wife.
m_attt:
as above if your happy and all that,my last payslip was a take home £535.21, i didnt need to earn £900 as you say to take home that. it was actually 692.13, and that was also underpaid as £40 of overtime was missing. Timesheet hours were 60, but two of the days were short days but i get the min 9 hours paid. So I “worked” loosly call it that 55 hours.
As I said I don’t want call you a liar mate or argue.
But if you could put up you pay slips for 52 weeks of the year clearing 550-600 ever week for 48hrs work and in the house for 1800hrs every night Mon to Fri then I would honestly let you s###nk in my mouth.
Themoocher:
m_attt:
as above if your happy and all that,my last payslip was a take home £535.21, i didnt need to earn £900 as you say to take home that. it was actually 692.13, and that was also underpaid as £40 of overtime was missing. Timesheet hours were 60, but two of the days were short days but i get the min 9 hours paid. So I “worked” loosly call it that 55 hours.
As I said I don’t want call you a liar mate or argue.
But if you could put up you pay slips for 52 weeks of the year clearing 550-600 ever week for 48hrs work and in the house for 1800hrs every night Mon to Fri then I would honestly let you s###nk in my mouth.
I don’t doubt that there are drivers out there clearing top money for cream shifts Mon-Fri. Maybe m_attt is one of them, but they are in a minority and there certainly isn’t enough of that work going round for everyone. If you are in one of them gigs it’d be very easy to sneer at other peoples wages & hours calling them mugs.
For the vast majority of us, the reality is that to earn good money in this game you have to make a sacrifice somewhere; be it working unsociable hours (I include 1-5am starts in this), weekends and/or long hours with perhaps some nights away.
Im not editing my personal details out of 52 payslips then scanning them all. Ill just keep laughing all the way to the bank.
You dont do a 48h week. You said it your self 15x3 and 13x2 plus away from home even sat waiting to tip is working. The 50-60 hours i do is leaving my door and returning to it.
rob22888:
Themoocher:
m_attt:
as above if your happy and all that,my last payslip was a take home £535.21, i didnt need to earn £900 as you say to take home that. it was actually 692.13, and that was also underpaid as £40 of overtime was missing. Timesheet hours were 60, but two of the days were short days but i get the min 9 hours paid. So I “worked” loosly call it that 55 hours.
As I said I don’t want call you a liar mate or argue.
But if you could put up you pay slips for 52 weeks of the year clearing 550-600 ever week for 48hrs work and in the house for 1800hrs every night Mon to Fri then I would honestly let you s###nk in my mouth.I don’t doubt that there are drivers out there clearing top money for cream shifts Mon-Fri. Maybe m_attt is one of them, but they are in a minority and there certainly isn’t enough of that work going round for everyone. If you are in one of them gigs it’d be very easy to sneer at other peoples wages & hours calling them mugs.
For the vast majority of us, the reality is that to earn good money in this game you have to make a sacrifice somewhere; be it working unsociable hours (I include 1-5am starts in this), weekends and/or long hours with perhaps some nights away.
What cream de la cream doing agency work 52 weeks of the year.
Come on I know there is a few top earners out there.
But agency work Mon to Fri. 48hrs a week. In the house for 1800 every night.
Clearing between £550 and 600 every week.
Would you honestly believe that without seeing the pay slips?
caledoniandream:
GasGas:
Drivers hours are going to have to come down.If you want a mortgage and to raise a family (and most young people do) then you need two incomes.
This means that both partners have to take their share of child-related duties…the days of Mummy staying at home to look after Janet and John while Daddy goes to work are long-gone.
And that means the days of Daddy being able to pull 15-hour shifts every week are over, too.
The road transport sector is still living in the 1950s, but the rest of the world has moved on. It has a choice: either cut drivers hours drastically and get them home most nights, or keep the hours as they are but start paying drivers stockbroker wages.
While I agree to some extend with you, long hours are inherent on transport, that will never change.
I don’t know any industry where a company buys a “Machine” for in excess of 150.000 pound, and uses it only 8 hours a day.
It’s not happening, as the cost will outweigh the profits.
And yes I agree, hourly pay should be higher than it is current for some, but WE (That is YOU and ME) don’t want to pay more for our goods in the store.
The moment we all vote with our feet and only buy from companies who pay their workforce top wack, it will never change, not in my life time!so we are stuck with it, and we can leave the industry and go all stacking shelves, we don’t i know for a fact as there a weekly adverts for shelf stackers.
And even if “shelf stacking” paid 10 pound an hour (i haven’t seen any jobs in my search over the last 2 years, stacking shelves what pays that) and you got your 37.5 hours, you would be on 19.5K a year (before tax)Many drivers make in excess for that, and more important wouldn’t be able to have their current life style for that kind of money.
I always found when i was driving away from home (nights out) I may as well do the maximum hours, what else is there to do?
Sitting in the pub, burning my hard earned money away?
I worked all the hours given in the past, sorted my life out with the money i earned, and can choose and pick which job i want as what they pay is relative unimportant.I actually left a job to do my dream job for roughly half the money i previous earned.
Transport is a choice, if you made that choice, you knew the consequences: long hours, mediocre pay.
And you still choose it, so who is to blame?
You can still get out of it,they asking for factory workers (salary meets NMW), shelf stackers £6.70 p/h, or Supermarket delivery drivers 20hrs at £7.90 p/h) so take you pick.a lot of this moaning sound like people who buy a house beside a abattoir and complain about the smell and the dead animals.
You knew it when you bought the house.
the same is for drivers, nobody forced you to do Transport, all the information was there, and you still choose to be a truck driver■■?
God help us all with your attitude. Your sort and the like are the reason the majority of drivers suffer rubbish pay and long hours. I do agree with you about the house move though.
saw 2 of them in carlise wed/thurs again how are they still on the road over here 
if uk firm was doing what they do they would closed down
As I said I find it more of a lifestyle choice.
I’m away 5 days so class that as 5 days making as much money as I can.
If your tramping can you really class waiting 5 hours to get tipped actual work?
I reckon my last reply to you answered that question
What other job would you get paid £150 to £180 a day and sit for hours with your thumb up your arse.
I have excepted the lifestyle been away from home for the money I’m earning.I get paid a lot more now than I ever did in the army as a corporal even in Afghan.
I use to take home £1900 a month as a cpl.I think a lot of people need a reality check and compare what they actually do as a vocation and what they earn.
well put 
£1900 ■■■■ it its gone up lol £980 when i was in 
It says ERF not RAF:
This is how they load each other:
Thank you, very interesting and as far as I can see, legal.
Paul