Keep hearing over the past few years that modern planes can fly themselves and mostly do.
Average wage of £100k up to £200k.
Offered an 11% payrise and it’s still not enough.
Self-funding your training is quite expensive, though
Nothing stopping you spending £120,000 to train as a commercial airline pilot. Downside is when you start you won’t be on much more than you can earn driving lorries. Most can expect to earn about £27,000 to £29,000 a year, eventually climbing to a basic salary before allowances of £56,000 to £66,000 as a captain with more than a decade’s service and four to eight years in command.
If you’re lucky and manage to get one of the very rare jobs with British Airways you start on £52k. You don’t reach over £100k until you’ve 20+ years service. In the meantime you’ve £120k of training to pay.
Supply of newly qualified pilots with low amounts of flying hours massively outstrips demand.
idrive:
Keep hearing over the past few years that modern planes can fly themselves and mostly do.
Average wage of £100k up to £200k.
Offered an 11% payrise and it’s still not enough.
Where do you get your average wage information from?
A look around the internet, it seems the average UK airline pilot wage is will around £80k, BA is around £88k apparently, up to around £170k, but how many will be earning that?
and I think they’re after 11% over 3 years, so 3.6% per year.
From what I gather most airline pilots fund much of their training themselves, I’ve seen figures for that being £40,000 to £100,000, before they can get into a paid job flying and that’s unlikely to be with BA or any major airline. The airlines they start with won’t be paying anywhere near that, some will make a truck driver (who might have paid £2k or £3k for their licence) seem well paid and they still have that debt to pay back.
But of course we live in a society where everybody seems to want to drag others pay down instead of being happy they’re fighting to get a good deal. I suppose that’s what decades of right wing media drip feeding anti-worker headlines does to a nation.
muckles:
idrive:
Keep hearing over the past few years that modern planes can fly themselves and mostly do.
Average wage of £100k up to £200k.
Offered an 11% payrise and it’s still not enough.Where do you get your average wage information from?
Jeremy Vine!!!
It also featured a pilots wife complaining that they cannot survive on 100k as they have kids
idrive:
muckles:
idrive:
Keep hearing over the past few years that modern planes can fly themselves and mostly do.
Average wage of £100k up to £200k.
Offered an 11% payrise and it’s still not enough.Where do you get your average wage information from?
Jeremy Vine!!!
It also featured a pilots wife complaining that they cannot survive on 100k as they have kids
I’ve often listened to callers to Jeremy Vine and thought, I know enough about the subjec tot know you aren’t who you say you are and you are telling porkies.
I could call up tell them I’m the wife of a pilot, would they check it out in the few minutes before I go on air?
muckles:
idrive:
muckles:
idrive:
Keep hearing over the past few years that modern planes can fly themselves and mostly do.
Average wage of £100k up to £200k.
Offered an 11% payrise and it’s still not enough.Where do you get your average wage information from?
Jeremy Vine!!!
It also featured a pilots wife complaining that they cannot survive on 100k as they have kids
I’ve often listened to callers to Jeremy Vine and thought, I know enough about the subjec tot know you aren’t who you say you are and you are telling porkies.
I could call up tell them I’m the wife of a pilot, would they check it out in the few minutes before I go on air?
Hey, I’m with you, it’s full of crap.
I’m just trying to kill a few minutes waiting for my green light 
idrive:
muckles:
idrive:
muckles:
Where do you get your average wage information from?Jeremy Vine!!!
It also featured a pilots wife complaining that they cannot survive on 100k as they have kids
I’ve often listened to callers to Jeremy Vine and thought, I know enough about the subjec tot know you aren’t who you say you are and you are telling porkies.
I could call up tell them I’m the wife of a pilot, would they check it out in the few minutes before I go on air?Hey, I’m with you, it’s full of crap.
I’m just trying to kill a few minutes waiting for my green light
If you’re at some of the RDC’s I used to go to, you’ll be having to kill more than a few minutes.
I listened to Whine today about the pilots, I had to switch to Virgin though before I drowned in a sea of envy! I dunno about you lot but if I hear about someone on £100k + I think “good on you mate, what do I need to do to be able to earn that?”
I once heard a pilot explain their wages by saying that they do not get such high wages for doing their day job, the get the high wages for that once in a lifetime event where absolutely everything goes wrong and they safely land the aircraft . Fair enough.
“Flying Hours” - are the most valuable commodity that a pilot has.
“There’s no substitute for experience”.
the maoster:
I listened to Whine today about the pilots, I had to switch to Virgin though before I drowned in a sea of envy! I dunno about you lot but if I hear about someone on £100k + I think “good on you mate, what do I need to do to be able to earn that?”I once heard a pilot explain their wages by saying that they do not get such high wages for doing their day job, the get the high wages for that once in a lifetime event where absolutely everything goes wrong and they safely land the aircraft . Fair enough.
I think the truth is they get the money they earn because they can’t be replaced at the drop of a hat and they stick together. I’m sure if British Airways could find a way of replacing their Pilots with a load of cheaper ones they do it.
I know people who earn far more than an Airlines Pilot, they work in the financial services sector, I don’t think they risk getting faced with the life or death choice a Pilot might, but they can earn some silly money.
I once heard a pilot explain their wages by saying that they do not get such high wages for doing their day job, the get the high wages for that once in a lifetime event where absolutely everything goes wrong and they safely land the aircraft . Fair enough.
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im still happier when i get on a plane and see some middle aged dude that looks like a pilot sitting up front than some wifey with a mans haircut and her baps sellotaped down.
it must have been a great statement for being a woman in a mans job a few months ago whe the pilot wifey threw a hissy fit in the cockpit,went into the toilet and locked herself in till her tantrum subsided leaving the cockpit at about 2 miles high.
all in all,they might get good wages,but they must have as boring a job as being on a night trunk to lockerbie.
id imagine the novelty soon wears off looking at the sky for several hours a day bored out of your ■■■■ on autopilot and kipping in different hotels every night.
sales reps,trampers and pilots are all mostly the same once it gets right down to it.
idrive:
Offered an 11% payrise and it’s still not enough.
An 11% payrise over 3 years will scarcely maintain the value of your wages against inflation.
Can’t compare our job with pilots pay,
My mate compares truck drivers wages to everything “doctors on 100k” he says “my surgery is only open 9 TIL 5 I work 15 hr shifts” etc etc etc not looking at the fact that doctor will do home visits,care home visits etc,all this while dressed like a sack of ■■■■■ ■■■■■■ and jeffin,
Pilots always look professional as do train drivers they have a more skilled and highly trained job than us and that’s where the salary is earned.
Also they all stick together in times like this where as drivers don’t
Conor:
Nothing stopping you spending £120,000 to train as a commercial airline pilot. Downside is when you start you won’t be on much more than you can earn driving lorries. Most can expect to earn about £27,000 to £29,000 a year, eventually climbing to a basic salary before allowances of £56,000 to £66,000 as a captain with more than a decade’s service and four to eight years in command.If you’re lucky and manage to get one of the very rare jobs with British Airways you start on £52k. You don’t reach over £100k until you’ve 20+ years service. In the meantime you’ve £120k of training to pay.
Supply of newly qualified pilots with low amounts of flying hours massively outstrips demand.
Where do you get all this false info from? One of my school friends who I still keep in touch with worked for a low budget airline (retired now) and I can assure you he earned a lot more than you say even when he first started.He also earned more than 52k when he started.
Do you really believe an airline pilot with all the skill and training only earns the same as a lorry driver when he first starts? Cloud cuckoo land.
Can’t compare our job with pilots pay,
Of course you can’t and the reasons are obvious to some even without proof.
jakethesnake:
Conor:
Nothing stopping you spending £120,000 to train as a commercial airline pilot. Downside is when you start you won’t be on much more than you can earn driving lorries. Most can expect to earn about £27,000 to £29,000 a year, eventually climbing to a basic salary before allowances of £56,000 to £66,000 as a captain with more than a decade’s service and four to eight years in command.If you’re lucky and manage to get one of the very rare jobs with British Airways you start on £52k. You don’t reach over £100k until you’ve 20+ years service. In the meantime you’ve £120k of training to pay.
Supply of newly qualified pilots with low amounts of flying hours massively outstrips demand.
Where do you get all this false info from? One of my school friends who I still keep in touch with worked for a low budget airline (retired now) and I can assure you he earned a lot more than you say even when he first started.He also earned more than 52k when he started.
Do you really believe an airline pilot with all the skill and training only earns the same as a lorry driver when he first starts? Cloud cuckoo land.
When did your friend start flying if he’s retired now?
jakethesnake:
Conor:
Nothing stopping you spending £120,000 to train as a commercial airline pilot. Downside is when you start you won’t be on much more than you can earn driving lorries. Most can expect to earn about £27,000 to £29,000 a year, eventually climbing to a basic salary before allowances of £56,000 to £66,000 as a captain with more than a decade’s service and four to eight years in command.If you’re lucky and manage to get one of the very rare jobs with British Airways you start on £52k. You don’t reach over £100k until you’ve 20+ years service. In the meantime you’ve £120k of training to pay.
Supply of newly qualified pilots with low amounts of flying hours massively outstrips demand.
Where do you get all this false info from? One of my school friends who I still keep in touch with worked for a low budget airline (retired now) and I can assure you he earned a lot more than you say even when he first started.He also earned more than 52k when he started.
Do you really believe an airline pilot with all the skill and training only earns the same as a lorry driver when he first starts? Cloud cuckoo land.
A quick google search reveals that the starting salary for a Ryanair pilot is between €25000 and €30000 p/a. Were there budget airlines when your mate started?
Where do you get all this false info from? One of my school friends who I still keep in touch with worked for a low budget airline (retired now) and I can assure you he earned a lot more than you say even when he first started.He also earned more than 52k when he started.
Do you really believe an airline pilot with all the skill and training only earns the same as a lorry driver when he first starts? Cloud cuckoo land.
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When did your friend start flying if he’s retired now?
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anyone else thinking this?
youtube.com/watch?v=gc2p5VgPkso
dieseldog999:
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anyone else thinking this?
youtube.com/watch?v=gc2p5VgPkso
I was thinking more along the lines of this…