Regarding 4J.S transport, Blairgowrie if you go onto the Brian Edgar website click on photo,s then scroll down to refridgerated transport Perth, Kinross, Tayside and Angus you will get all the photo,s of the said firm past. Hope this info is of some use, regards, THE SHERIFF.
hi lads, there seems to be a lot of banter about the scania 110 atkie’s with 240 Gardner’s or RR 220 IN BIG J’S AND ERF’S, drove all of these motors over the years, in its time the scania 110 was streets a head, a plant company that i work for ran 2 old scania’s 110 with splitter boxes , atki with 240 and erf with 240 Gardner’s both had fuller boxes in , " why is it that you have to fit a wedge of wood on the accelerator of both these motors to get full throttle um"" 
or was it just me and my short legs 
drove the e-r-f for 3 weeks, first time i got back to yard tolled gaffer you ether give me the old scania back or you can stick the job, i have never been so pleased to get back into an old motor, my be its just me but i could not get away with the akti or erf, 
bumper
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We were talking strange names a while back.Passed a wagon and drag today called A.D.Rhead or D.A. Rhead.Is it a name or my eyes?
Blocks,bricks,quarry products or something like that.
Mark.
Gridley51:
We were talking strange names a while back.Passed a wagon and drag today called A.D.Rhead or D.A. Rhead.Is it a name or my eyes?
Blocks,bricks,quarry products or something like that.Mark.
That’s the Potteries/North Staffs way of spelling the name (Reed) Mark, I worked with a couple of Rheads in my distant past!
Pete.
windrush:
Gridley51:
We were talking strange names a while back.Passed a wagon and drag today called A.D.Rhead or D.A. Rhead.Is it a name or my eyes?
Blocks,bricks,quarry products or something like that.Mark.
That’s the Potteries/North Staffs way of spelling the name (Reed) Mark, I worked with a couple of Rheads in my distant past!
Pete.
Hiya if that Rheads truck you saw was White and Green and possibly a Foden that could be Derek Rhead from Stoke area he
parked his trucks in Harrisons yard at one time. and Harrisons have Brick lorries.
John
3300John:
windrush:
Gridley51:
We were talking strange names a while back.Passed a wagon and drag today called A.D.Rhead or D.A. Rhead.Is it a name or my eyes?
Blocks,bricks,quarry products or something like that.Mark.
That’s the Potteries/North Staffs way of spelling the name (Reed) Mark, I worked with a couple of Rheads in my distant past!
Pete.
Hiya if that Rheads truck you saw was White and Green and possibly a Foden that could be Derek Rhead from Stoke area he
parked his trucks in Harrisons yard at one time. and Harrisons have Brick lorries.
John
Hi John.
It was red,or should I say rhed? Spray was bad and traffic heavy so didn`t get a good look.
Mark.
Was this part of Andersons / Mcmillan’s?
Stevie, I would definately say the vehicle in question is neither Andersons or McMillans, the name on the door may suggest an emerald isle connection, I may however be wrong about that, regards THE SHERIFF.
THE SHERIFF:
Stevie, I would definately say the vehicle in question is neither Andersons or McMillans, the name on the door may suggest an emerald isle connection, I may however be wrong about that, regards THE SHERIFF.
Looks something like Laich Park at the top and Paisley at bottom. there’s a Laichpark in Edinburgh according to google.
Wherever she’s from she’s a mess 
I remember fff. they had the contract to pull all of grampian chickens stuff out of muggiemoss. most trailers were grampian chickens livery but they did have a few fff. they ran dafs.
Has Jim gone stravaiging again,letting his thread slip away?One of my mothers words that,both from the same era I suppose.:slight_smile: Thing Ive noticed the last few years.Tippers used to be what I would call local motors,mainly four to eight wheelers.Worked in their own area and mostly didnt do distance.I dont think Henry Gilliess motors went out of West Lothian for example.Ok,theres always been exceptions but not many,not many that I noticed anyway.I do remember meeting Tommy Alston for the first time about three months after Id started work with the company when in to the yard one Saturday morning rolled a 2800 Daf and 40ft tipping box in the company colours and the driver saying Ive to see Mark and get the motor serviced while I wait.Until then I didnt know that either he or the motor existed.Appeared he had been finding his own loads down south and had worked away down there for a long time. Now more and more I see sleeper cab artic tippers parked in laybys overnight,the names on them indicating they`re a long way way from home.What has changed? Is there now so much more money in tippers that they can run distance? Has new types of loads become available? Or what?
Mark.
I think that tippers have run distance for a long while Mark, certainly eight leggers have anyway. Wimpey’s used to haul tarmac from Stoney Middleton in the Derbyshire Peak District down into Kent for example, for Tilcon we used to run from Ashbourne to St Clears, Cardiff, and Newport with the Black Stuff as well as stone to Sevenoaks, london, the Isle of Wight, Essex and Cornwall as well as Scotland. No nights out mind (only for Cornwall) but we used to get about a bit, though I think that nowadays that sort of work (with stone at least) tends to go on artics.
Pete.
Pete.Its the nights out Im getting at.In the old days if they werent away overnight they were local.:slight_smile: An example is at the Forth road bridge there are tippers overnighting there from hundreds of miles away. How times have changed for Wimpey,for a long time the biggest construction company in the world.Didnt matter what tiny road in a remote part of Scotland you were on you were nearly guaranteed to meet something with the Wimpey name.
Mark.
Hi Mark & Pete,
The tippers fromthese quarries in this area have always gone quite a distance,a lot of it is because of the high psv gritstone foung in these quarries. They travelled to London,Hampshire and various other places forty years ago,also from Pete’s area Sam Longsons used to carry loads all over the place,with backloads. A local firm from this area ran tippers with coilwells Sharples from Eardisley carried sand to varios steelwoks throughout the country,fetching coils from the steelworks in the oposite direction.
Cheers Dave.
Has the discussion of tippers stopped everybody posting their comments, come on men lets have some more of your valued comments and stories. 
THE SHERIFF:
Has the discussion of tippers stopped everybody posting their comments, come on men lets have some more of your valued comments and stories.
Seeing as you are from Lockerbie,Sheriff this photo was taken in the council yard just out of town on a changeover about 1992.The Scania 113M was the 500th Scania bought by MFS,part of Glass Glover Distribution,for the Littlewoods contract.Marshalls of Chunkie Chicken fame from Newbridge used to park in there as well,I think it was driven by a local man.
Now,who can identify the artic tipper parked in the corner
Chris, I think the tipper belonged to Hoddam Contracting, Ecclefechan and was in fact driven by a local man. Talking about Ecclefechan there is a recipe for a cake called the Fechan Tart, which I think is a bit near the bone. Believe it or not it is printed in a local WRI recipe book. Regards The Sheriff.
THE SHERIFF:
Chris, I think the tipper belonged to Hoddam Contracting, Ecclefechan and was in fact driven by a local man. Talking about Ecclefechan there is a recipe for a cake called the Fechan Tart, which I think is a bit near the bone. Believe it or not it is printed in a local WRI recipe book. Regards The Sheriff.
I remember Ecclefechan “The birthplace of Thomas Carlyle” wasn’t it,on a sign as you went up the A74.
Fechan tart - you’ve got to smile at that in a WRI recipe book
Chris, you are right about Ecclefechan being the birthplace of Thomas Carlyle. I will try and get a copy of The Fechan Tart from the WRI recipe book, scan it and post it for all to see, get your peenie,s on.Bobert.