That ERF…F66SBF looks familiar Malcom Harrison had about 10 white 4 wheeler curtain siders out on a long term rentals and that looks like on of them
the number plates run consecutive.someone will tell us if we’er right or wrong.
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hi lads, um a family tree of transport companies, now that would be interesting, often wondered if john Russell transport was any relation to the Russell of bathgate outfit, franky was on about how work seem to follow from one company to another company, example crows transport gateshead sold out to some group 1970, he then proceeded to get him self the sack from the group, started grows71 and ran that company till he died, he not only took the work back of the group but also most of the drivers as well, 
an other example is siddle c cook, taken over by tayforth, then started up as elddis, oboy you could open a right can of worms, transport mangers who left when companies got taken over, then start their own company up taken the work with them, how many haulage outfits have gone bust, then started up again, same management team, just another name, yes there would be some fascinating reading, 
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hi lads, um a family tree of transport companies, now that would be interesting, often wondered if john Russell transport was any relation to the Russell of bathgate outfit?They certainly were that Bumper and someone on here was asking the same thing but within a thread and not a thread itself and a lot of incidental info came up as well. Davemackie for one put a good post on about it.Sorry I can’t find that thread but my this is a big site
I think in the final analysis if they were Russells they were connected somehow.
On about the same what about,for example, the doings of Omega?DHL buying out companies only to see them reform after the 5 years or so? then again elsewhere we can suspect many a deal was done to be one step ahead of the taxman …jim
hi jim i had a look at that john g russell site , very interesting read, didn’t know they sold out as early as 1954 to t-d-g, your comment about the tax man, i always thought transport companies didn’t pay any, because most owners or managers got 2 injection every year, 1 left arm thing are bad, 2right arm we can’t afored it, that’s what they tolled me when i asked for a pay rise, still there was other ways to get more money out of them, bumper
Hi Jim, my posting about Russell’s.
Just to clear a few points, Russell of Bathgate was taken over by TDG in the 1960’s, John Russell (Grangemouth) Ltd was also taken over at the same time.
These were two separate companies, although it was hard to distinguish between them.
John Russell ( Grangemouth ) Ltd were based in Linlithgow, they ran a night trunk from there to Morpeth with a step up to Hatfield.
To add to the confusion Russell of Bathgate had a depot in Grangemouth.
Both companies had similar liveries, grey & blue, but Linlithgow was a darker blue than Bathgate, later on in the seventies Linlithgow changed to mainly white with red lettering.
Some time later both companies amalgamated and were based in Grangemouth.
The Purple wagons belong to John G. Russell as does Carntyne Transport, he is the son of Willie Russell, founder of Russell of Bathgate.
Dave.
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Flatman, John you dark horse, where did this come from?
Terrific site, and I’ve only skimmed through it so far. Can see Chris has made his contribution and maybe others will as well. I wouldn’t imagine any of my stuff would be of interest (Or in focus 
) but if now or any time in the future I stick anything on here that I can rightly lay claim to, feel free to use so that pics that may well have got lost or binned 
will be out there for a long time to come…Well done…jim
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Thanks for the plug and the comments Jim, judging by the photo of the DAF and Actros, your photos would be a welcome addition to my little site, I will e-mail you later.
John
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That just reminds me when I came home yesterday and one of those daytime rubbish programmes was almost ending and they put questions up for people to phone into and get ripped off. Anyway the question was ‘What’s a Juggernaut’ Is it a. Bird. Is it b. Lorry. Is it c. something else but can’t remember as the red mist decended and I told the faceless TV voice what I thought of her until the Mrs told me to shut up that is. Obviously the answer they wanted was Lorry but if I could have been able to write a very quick angry letter while wearing the straightjacket (Mrs keeps one handy) I would have told them the real meaning of ‘Juggernaut’ and its nowt to do with the beautiful sound of a Gardner, Commer/Foden 2 Stroke or any of our other home grown music machines, tch its enough to make you angry! Dickinson I’ll give you a real deal. Franky.
hi lads, Dave i new some of russell’s driver that were based at morpeth, often go a lift home with them when on a dodgie night out, i work for thomas bell at that time, you mentioned linlithgow, in them days that was the main road north from edinburgh. seen a few stuck under that bridge, there used to be a great little cafe at winchburgh, served only home made food, the bread and butter pudding was something to die for, regards bumper
Hi Jim, on The Old Café’s thread you asked for stories about Blackwood Cafe,
In the late sixties, when I worked for Strathclyde, Motherwell, this would be our first stop on our way south.
One of the ladies who worked there, Big Aggie, had a husband who also worked for Strathclyde, well he did until a woman’s body (not his wife) was found in the Clyde near Hamilton, He was tried & convicted for her murder.
This would have been about 1969 if my memory is correct.
Your other photo of The ■■■■ on London Road, this was nearly always the first stop for our local Drivers on their way into Glasgow, just for information close to the cafe there was also a Pub, its debatable who was in the cafe who was in the pub, as all the Wagons parked in the road, on occasion management would try and find out, but someone would spot them, and there would be a mad dash out the back door.
I still drive pass there five nights a week on my way into Tollcross.
Dave.
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Hi Jim, yes thats the Hadfields who I was thinking of 
. Thanks yet again to The Bubbleman who has settled more disputes than what most shop stewards did in the seventies 
. Hadfields were one of the many North Western haulers who would do a six o’clock start on Monday morning and after a breakfast at Forton would arrive around the Crawford area just around lunch time. Another firm that has just sprung to mind was Rob Roy Transport with their navy blue vans and I think they had a couple of artics as well. They had a depot I think in the Oldham area but where they a Scottish Company ?, with a name like that you would of thought so. Blue Band Motors was another company who you would often see going up and down the A74.
I mentioned about Trolley buses on their way to Scotland on the B.R.S. thread which got a response from Berwick I am glad to say and as I didn’t want to take that thread off track I thought that I would mention it on here. I used to work with an old fellow called Stan Warmbold who told me that he used to tow trolley buses from Manchester to Glasgow over Shap in the fifties or the sixties. What I can’t remember was who he was working for at the time and I thought that it was MacKelvies as I know that they had a depot in Manchester. As this was thirty years ago when he told me this the mists of time are beginning to make those little conversations that we had back then a little cloudy now. Two years ago I was back in the U.K. and I went for a drink with another old workmate of Stans called Ken Corrigan and I mentioned the story to Ken. Ken said that he remembers Kay Goodfellow towing trolley buses over Shap but he couldn’t remember if Stan had worked for Goodfellows. I am sure that Stan also mentioned something about Gardners at Gorton so hopefully somebody can add a little bit more information to this post .
Regards Steve.
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Hiya Steve,
Seem to recall Rob Roy transport from Chesterfield, maybe one of the Derbyshire lads can remember.
Ray
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Hiya Steve,
Seem to recall Rob Roy transport from Chesterfield, maybe one of the Derbyshire lads can remember.
Ray
Ray,I think Rob Roy Transport were from Manchester,ran vans in a dark blue livery IIRC,maybe Bedfords can’t remember.I don’t think they were a Scottish company in spite of the name.
Just another quick thanks lads for all the London Scottish info - it’s been brilliant.
Got me thinking about something else too - London Scottish and everyone else got taken into BRS under nationalisation, right? BUT…what about Road Services Forth, Road Services Caledonian and the other outfits that ran in that same blue livery (McKinnon, Tay etc). They were part of the nationalised operation, but seperate. IIRC, Forth’s big depot was at Alloa (home of London Scottish?) How come they didn’t become BRS?
Oh, and what happened to them all?
God, I feel old…
macdangerous, they did end up as SRS, canny mind the dates but all the caley at Dumfries were gradually repainted into SRS livery. Eddie.