Job to Paris.

A mate of mine ring me today to ask about taking a mobile shop from London across to Paris. He is involved in advertising and marketing and needs this mobile shop taking over for a client. The dimensions are approx 12 foot long by 12 foot high when it is collapsed into its travelling position and weighs between 500kg and 1000kg according to him.

I only have a National Operators Licence and its not really my sort of thing anyway but I said I’d ask around. Basically I wondered if anyone had any idea how much it would cost him to get it taken over. I appreciate the details are a bit sketchy but he wasn’t 100% sure if the ins and outs of the job, just as I aren’t!

So if there’s anyone out there who has a rough idea what it will cost him to send it over I’d appreciate it. He has had some quotes which, to me, seems expensive but I don’t know what’s involved with running over the water.

Cheers
Matt

Assuming it is a slow load and a slow tip and that he would want a proper service and not just the cheapest price then I would be looking at about £1,800 plus the ferry.

I know next to nothing about running abroad but is the 12 foot high part going to be an issue that means the price is higher than you might otherwise expect? What is the maximum height for normal running in France? If it’s 4.0m then you need a very low trailer given the shop itself is 3.6m tall…

Paul

You can get by running to Paris at 4.5 metres with a bit of forward planning so it would go on a stepframe trailer.

don’t get me wrong but this sounds like one of them stretch out caravan jobbies 12ft long 12ft high a ton in weight and how wide why wont this go on a transporter type trailer pulled behind a car its gotta be loads cheaper or am I missing something 12 + 1 to 1.5 ft for the height + trailer comes to 13.5 ft

nick2008:
don’t get me wrong but this sounds like one of them stretch out caravan jobbies 12ft long 12ft high a ton in weight and how wide why wont this go on a transporter type trailer pulled behind a car its gotta be loads cheaper or am I missing something 12 + 1 to 1.5 ft for the height + trailer comes to 13.5 ft

I hope you got a good car.

Running at 4.5 metres high in France will land you in all sorts of problems , granted as harry says there are routes that wiil get you there but if you get a tug the Genderemie will not be impressed- 4.5 metres high is counted in France as an abnormal load and you would require permits you could get it down lower using a very low bed trailer- we used to have some that used forklift sized tyres and even they sat proud of the bed giving a very load ride height- but no good for carrying any weight

I may be wrong- after all, I read it on TruckNet :stuck_out_tongue: - but as I understand it 4.5 metres is the maximum permissible height in France and only bridges lower than this height are marked.

Get your mate to give Denby a ring I regularly see them travelling in France with low loader trailers usually returning to the UK with tractors they might give him an idea of price.

Dan Punchard:

nick2008:
don’t get me wrong but this sounds like one of them stretch out caravan jobbies 12ft long 12ft high a ton in weight and how wide why wont this go on a transporter type trailer pulled behind a car its gotta be loads cheaper or am I missing something 12 + 1 to 1.5 ft for the height + trailer comes to 13.5 ft

I hope you got a good car.

why it only weighs 500 to 1000kgs

You need to be charging £3k to and from Paris for this type of work. Have two going out next week for this sort of money. Its the going rate.

Rikki-UK:
Running at 4.5 metres high in France will land you in all sorts of problems , granted as harry says there are routes that wiil get you there but if you get a tug the Genderemie will not be impressed- 4.5 metres high is counted in France as an abnormal load and you would require permits you could get it down lower using a very low bed trailer- we used to have some that used forklift sized tyres and even they sat proud of the bed giving a very load ride height- but no good for carrying any weight

THIS ^^^^^^

The Gendarmes have a real fetish for tape measures with stuff that looks high on open trailers :wink: Yes anything under 4.5 is marked in France but usually only when you get to it :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: So you’d need to know where you’re going and personally one place I wouldn’t be going at that height is Paris :grimacing:

If it’s a towable jobby, as Nick said, I would suggest you find a boat transport company as many of them run tacho’d up 4x4s. If it isn’t, as suggested, Denbys or Wilsons would be worth a call as they do the job with the right equipment and most importantly permits. I would not give it to some cheapo mob intent on sneaking it there on the idea it should be OK. It likely won’t be OK as it will be in bits or parked up waiting for a very large fine deposit. It may even be wedged on the ferry deck if you get the wrong one :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

12ft on top of 3ft for a normal stepframe flat is 4.54 metres on my abacus, $1800 & a couple of boats is too cheap, taking a chance at 4.2m is one thing without a permit running at 4.5 is plain stupid.

Yeah,what ^They^ said! :wink:

fly sheet:
12ft on top of 3ft for a normal stepframe flat is 4.54 metres on my abacus, $1800 & a couple of boats is too cheap, taking a chance at 4.2m is one thing without a permit running at 4.5 is plain stupid.

Well, it’s academic because it’s only a guesstimate, it’s not a job I would quote for because I’m not set up to do it anyway. I’d be interested to know what the final quote was.

The job should be as the other poster said 3k Harry or leave it where it is, a stepframe flat would be a good cheap investment for you & you could broaden your horizans with one, its how I started by dipping my toe in the water, 3k for a stepframe tilt & a grand for some ali ramps a bit of reinforcing the back end & my phone never stopped ringing for quotes all over, plenty of Italian traffic & tiles back if nothing else.

I have 6 extendable low loaders that run at 725mm deck height,

Also got this one, its just 300mm, taken in australia …

Thanks for the replies. I think one of his office staff may have got the dimensions wrong then as the cheapest quote he got was £11000!! To be honest he has no idea about the sizes of a truck so didn’t know what size would be required.

As a matter of interest how much is it for an artic to use both the ferry and the train across the channel? Also what other expenses are involved with going over the water other than diesel and wages?

Yes, I’d say that would have to be something totally different to anything I’d visualised, would it not be possible to break it down and send it out in kit form?