FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast,
Just because a 17 year old shags a 15 year old, doesn’t mean it’s ■■■■!! Your being a hypocrite as you say they are young enough to make decisions whether to go out on a date with a 40 year old but she can’t make a decision about when she wants to have ■■■ with someone.
A girl is of an age at 15 where she can decide to chat with a 17 year old or a 40 +year old but she’s not at an age at 15 to be able to consent to a ■■■■■■ relationship and if a 17 year old or a 40 year old then shags her,knowing that,then both are (should be) criminals of equal measure in the eyes of the law which effectively is the charge of statutory ■■■■.But obviously not in the zb’d up criminal views of those like yourself.
A date isn’t the same thing as ■■■ simples and that’s why Joe Philpot is still happily married not in prison.Although you obviously think the law should be applied with double standards just based on age gaps and obviously in which the effective intention is to ignore the meaning of the age of consent,as it stands at present,and reserving girls for blokes of their own age.Which is simply ageist.
No just information related to the possible/probable reasons behind the culture at the BBC back in the day which were obviously a significant contributor to the environment in which the likes of Savile and others were obviously able to take advantage.
And in which a certain type of case is being hijacked by those with a different agenda,related to making a situation,in which it’s all about age gaps and age of the bloke,which decides wether a relationship is legal,not the age of the girl.
kr79:
I recon its Rikkis alias or he lets him go as it makes the site like busier ie any thread that would run its course after a page or two becomes war and peace.
Maybe it’s because he doesn’t mind intelligent views and open free discussion as opposed to ignorant bs.
Fileep:
Read up to page 10 then lost the will to live… CF Peado views/tendencies, no other words for it! And why the Mods have left this to run with your homophobic remarks is beyond me!
As I read it it’s not me who’s shagged an underage ■■■■■■■ here or who agreed with that idea.Unlike others so long as the bloke isn’t considered ‘too old’.
As I’ve said if what I’ve said is paedo views or tendencies then Joe Philpot would be in jail.So why don’t you report us both to the law so we can then both sue you or at least quote the relevant criminal posts here so Rikki can at least then inform me of my crime.
i have not written much on the forums but have read a lot for several months. my wife is a counsilor who helps broken marrage and relationships. she tells me she has more people who are closely matched then with great age differents!it could be lawfull to have a young girl slepping with a 40 year old but is it normal, same young girl sleeps with old schoolboy and it is treated as young loves . wife reads paper to me and mention schoolteacher and small girl, i think that wrong as he is trust between father and mother
James
Just tell her to check out that story of Joe and Nicola Philpot if she really thinks that age gap marriages can’t work.Legal is all that matters wether it’s normal or not isn’t your,or your wife’s,call.That’s for the couple to decide.
However if your wife is really a marriage councellor then I’m sure she’ll be well aware of what often happens when a same age marriage reaches the point where the wife is ageing faster than her husband and then he gets an offer by a much younger girl.
Which probably explains the Jeremy Forrest case.
If he is still in a loving caring relationship he wouldn’t look twice till death us do part and all that. If the relationship has problems or has run it’s course he may be tempted.
So,in that case,why not just look for another divorced or widowed older woman of the same age,like I’m expected to do now, instead of going for a woman in her teens/20’s to have another family with thereby removing that possibility for a single bloke,who’s never had that chance,to try to pull her instead .
Carryfast:
This makes me laugh, you question whether James’ wife is really a counsellor and offer her your worldly advice too.
It seems that the photo I posted earlier in the thread really does apply to you, the bloke with the club goes out to look for a wife.
No one expects you to do anything, the same as you didn’t do anything with the rest of your life. You were unlucky to miss out as a proper lorry driver, you were unlucky to not get the chance to go abroad and you were unlucky in love
We make our own luck, and use our own personality and education to attract or repel a partner for life or maybe attract them just for a quick shag.
As for chances, we all started with the same chance, we all have the same box of bits that fit together, we just have to agree which bit you want fitting where. You may not have fitted the description of the girls ideal choice of partner either, consider that.
The young girls in the BBC studios and caravans didn’t really have that choice, they were in awe of a clever kiddy fiddler and their parents took them to see him.
This seems to be becoming your own agenda carryfast trying to prove that it is everyone else’s fault as to why you did not get “the girl” in your younger days.
Like many have said in their own ways , you can’t force somebody to love you.
You’ve blamed it on older men/divorcees , on your parents for bringing you up in a certain way, on the era you were born in and on women just wanting independence.
Why not blame yourself? It can never be everybody’s fault but yours. It is your life maybe you should of taken the hint that your values didn’t work in the society you are in and let a few go un noticed, no relationship is or ever will be perfect but you have to weigh up the pros and cons!
I don’t want to sound rude or obnoxious but people who spout the law and always play by the rules never “win” in the end, some common sense and humility will go a long way.
I may not be in the best position or have the most experience to be telling you this but… Why not take a moment to digest what other members have written before you fly off the handle in a response.
Ok some of their humour may cut a little close to the bone, but the more you keep biting back and repeating yourself just makes you sound more desperate and full of an attitude that you are always right. ( generally people don’t like that righteous self assurity)
kr79:
I’ve worked in very male dominated industurys since I left school at 16 and have never had a problem meeting women.
Go down the pub or shops or bowling alley or gym there’s loads of places to meet them.
As someone else said the likes of savile Gary glitter and John peel as I believe there was a few rumours about him had the access to the pop stars and actress types etc of there era and they chose young girls because they were depraved not because they was offering it on a plate.
So you obviously missed this post then. As I said just as in the other cases it didn’t take a genius,at the time,to realise the ‘possibility’ that things might have been being taken a bit further off camera and backstage and no surprise,what do we hear now.You’ve guessed it at least some of those possibilities seem to have been confirmed.
As for all that and the rest of your post as I’ve said before I was there at the time of the relevant age you weren’t so shut it.The fact is those early teenaged years are the most important in forming decent relationships at least for anyone who’s looking for the type of early marriage and family with a girl such as Prince Charles was handed on a plate.However there’s no way that such a relationship can be found at the local pub or bowling alley in the few hours after getting home from a working shift compared to the choices and availablity provided by the mixed school environment before leaving school.Especially in a world where most,if not all,the girls of the right age are already spoken for,or not looking for anything serious,or as I’ve said had all their search criterea ideas mixed up anyway by the type of zb going on in the media such as TOTP.Which was my experience.No surprise now that the chickens have come home to roost for,at least some of,those girls now they look back with hindsight.
Carryfast what planet are you on. How many people go on to marry someone they have been dating since they were 12. Maybe some but not many they may settle down in there teens or early 20s or maybe much later in life. You sound like you think we should have aranged marriages and girls betroved to a man at 11. Where do you think most people meet there partner I’m guessing it aint school.
I may not have been around in the 70s but teenage years ain’t so different as you think whatever the era.
Carryfast:
This makes me laugh, you question whether James’ wife is really a counsellor and offer her your worldly advice too.
It seems that the photo I posted earlier in the thread really does apply to you, the bloke with the club goes out to look for a wife.
No one expects you to do anything, the same as you didn’t do anything with the rest of your life. You were unlucky to miss out as a proper lorry driver, you were unlucky to not get the chance to go abroad and you were unlucky in love
We make our own luck, and use our own personality and education to attract or repel a partner for life or maybe attract them just for a quick shag.
As for chances, we all started with the same chance, we all have the same box of bits that fit together, we just have to agree which bit you want fitting where. You may not have fitted the description of the girls ideal choice of partner either, consider that.
The young girls in the BBC studios and caravans didn’t really have that choice, they were in awe of a clever kiddy fiddler and their parents took them to see him.
Do you use deodorant?
For what it’s worth I think you’re having a laugh and on a wind up.So those girls on TOTP were there with their parents who saw what was going on.That sounds a bit like the bs of the Nolans saying (now) that they ‘would’ have killed Savile if he touched their sister Coleen while they stood there watching her giggling as he did exactly that.
As for the rest no there’s plenty of blokes out there a lot worse than me who’ve managed to get the girls and those girls have ended up in refuges etc etc because they chose a wrong un.My attitude is tough you’re responsible for your own choices in life just as I’m supposed to have been responsible for being good enough for them and the same applies in most cases to those ones who prferred swallow all the BBC media bs in which blokes of their own age were deliberately kept out of the frame so that Savile etc could get their hands on them instead on and off camera with those girls own co operation.All to justify the bs relationship between a Royal who was actually in a similar position to me,but in his case really through his own actions,and a girl who was too good (and too young) for him.
Sorry wheelnut as in the case of me probably having been a better driver than many out there,maybe even yourself, (even if I do say so myself) but just didn’t get all the breaks I wanted,the same applies,but in far greater measure with my luck with women over the years,or at least the years when it mattered.When I go to my grave at least I’ll have the pleasure of knowing that I didn’t break any laws or hurt any woman in whatever way wether physically or emotionally and never would have done,unlike a lot of other zb’s out there.If only just one of them who I wanted had given me a chance in life instead of giving a divorcee another one.Although as I’ve said not surprising considering the type of media bs that was going on at the time turning the girls heads and widespread societal acceptance towards the idea of older blokes being with (sometimes much) younger women.Ironically unlike the situation now that I’m one of those older blokes myself.
kr79:
I’ve worked in very male dominated industurys since I left school at 16 and have never had a problem meeting women.
Go down the pub or shops or bowling alley or gym there’s loads of places to meet them.
As someone else said the likes of savile Gary glitter and John peel as I believe there was a few rumours about him had the access to the pop stars and actress types etc of there era and they chose young girls because they were depraved not because they was offering it on a plate.
So you obviously missed this post then. As I said just as in the other cases it didn’t take a genius,at the time,to realise the ‘possibility’ that things might have been being taken a bit further off camera and backstage and no surprise,what do we hear now.You’ve guessed it at least some of those possibilities seem to have been confirmed.
As for all that and the rest of your post as I’ve said before I was there at the time of the relevant age you weren’t so shut it.The fact is those early teenaged years are the most important in forming decent relationships at least for anyone who’s looking for the type of early marriage and family with a girl such as Prince Charles was handed on a plate.However there’s no way that such a relationship can be found at the local pub or bowling alley in the few hours after getting home from a working shift compared to the choices and availablity provided by the mixed school environment before leaving school.Especially in a world where most,if not all,the girls of the right age are already spoken for,or not looking for anything serious,or as I’ve said had all their search criterea ideas mixed up anyway by the type of zb going on in the media such as TOTP.Which was my experience.No surprise now that the chickens have come home to roost for,at least some of,those girls now they look back with hindsight.
Carryfast what planet are you on. How many people go on to marry someone they have been dating since they were 12. Maybe some but not many they may settle down in there teens or early 20s or maybe much later in life. You sound like you think we should have aranged marriages and girls betroved to a man at 11. Where do you think most people meet there partner I’m guessing it aint school.
I may not have been around in the 70s but teenage years ain’t so different as you think whatever the era.
I think if you do the maths and the idea is to marry and start a family before the age of 20,which was my (not impossible or unheard of intention and choice in life) it’s obvious that going to a same ■■■ school and then losing out with at least one teenaged bird of my own age at the age of 16,because she chose to do exactly that with a middle aged divorcee instead,and in an environment in which the media was pushing the idea of age gap relationships,between older blokes and younger women in general,is really going to throw a large spanner in the works.
As for what came after it’s obvious that I was never going to change the age range,to any large degree,of the girl that I was looking for as time went on and as I got older.In which case it’s obvious that a society which was turning to an ever increasing degree against age gap relationships was going to throw an even larger spanner in the works.
But absolutely the Asian idea of arranged marriages might have been great in my case,and certainly wouldn’t have been any worse.That Asian idea might also have stopped the type of zb that obviously took place concerning at least some of the girls in the Savile case,amongst other alleged cases,too.
While in the case of the Royals,such as the case which I’m alleging caused most of the ‘issues’ during the 1970’s,what’s the big difference,between their ideas of sorting the situation and the Asian way.In addition to what is effectively a similar situation in which parental and societal expectations,especially the age criteria and probably material status,are increasingly being seen as an important component in modern day marriage even over the girls’ own choices in many cases.The idea of the Brits criticising the Asian culture,at least in the case of arranged marriages,although certainly not other ‘issues’ regarding their treatment of women in many other cases,seems like hypocricy to me.
As I said before Charles and di were hardly an advert for marriage. Look at the older royals it’s common knowledge that despite having a royal wife laid on the men often had lovers to and it was accepted but it’s certainly not right.
My parents met in the 70s not at school as my mum went to a girls school and my dad lived in another country. Met at 17 married at 19 I was born when they was 21 my sister when they was 23 and divorced at 26. My dad has re married and my mum and stepdad have been together for a long time both partners are around the same age.
You can’t plan life like your trying to ■■■■ happens just go with the flow.
Anybody browsing this forum might expect this thread to be about Jimmy Saville. Can we re-title the thread “CF’s repetitive frustrations & ramblings” ?
Fileep:
Read up to page 10 then lost the will to live… CF Peado views/tendencies, no other words for it! And why the Mods have left this to run with your homophobic remarks is beyond me!
As I read it it’s not me who’s shagged an underage ■■■■■■■ here or who agreed with that idea.Unlike others so long as the bloke isn’t considered ‘too old’.
As I’ve said if what I’ve said is paedo views or tendencies then Joe Philpot would be in jail.So why don’t you report us both to the law so we can then both sue you or at least quote the relevant criminal posts here so Rikki can at least then inform me of my crime.
If I had your name and address I would certainly be passing it to the DPMU dept. at your local Police station, I would hazard a guess that your computer may be confiscated.
I have too much spare time on my hands obviously but to keep reading the insane nonsensical repetitive ramblings of a bitter and twisted old fool who has the opinion that only his conceptions on life are correct is making me loose the will to live as well
Muckaway:
Will that be the main event at Wrestlemania?
Wrestling is fake, but maybe Cf is too ■■ Could someone really be that perfect
I too have too much time, I mean its Sunday I’m on the sofa eating last nights pizza and reading this rubbish. While also hoping Gorillas are finally saved
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast,
Just because a 17 year old shags a 15 year old, doesn’t mean it’s ■■■■!! Your being a hypocrite as you say they are young enough to make decisions whether to go out on a date with a 40 year old but she can’t make a decision about when she wants to have ■■■ with someone.
A girl is of an age at 15 where she can decide to chat with a 17 year old or a 40 +year old but she’s not at an age at 15 to be able to consent to a ■■■■■■ relationship and if a 17 year old or a 40 year old then shags her,knowing that,then both are (should be) criminals of equal measure in the eyes of the law which effectively is the charge of statutory ■■■■.But obviously not in the zb’d up criminal views of those like yourself.
A date isn’t the same thing as ■■■ simples and that’s why Joe Philpot is still happily married not in prison.Although you obviously think the law should be applied with double standards just based on age gaps and obviously in which the effective intention is to ignore the meaning of the age of consent,as it stands at present,and reserving girls for blokes of their own age.Which is simply ageist.
Yes but the 40 year old is an adult, the 17 year old is not.
i have not written much on the forums but have read a lot for several months. my wife is a counsilor who helps broken marrage and relationships. she tells me she has more people who are closely matched then with great age differents!it could be lawfull to have a young girl slepping with a 40 year old but is it normal, same young girl sleeps with old schoolboy and it is treated as young loves . wife reads paper to me and mention schoolteacher and small girl, i think that wrong as he is trust between father and mother
James
Just tell her to check out that story of Joe and Nicola Philpot if she really thinks that age gap marriages can’t work.Legal is all that matters wether it’s normal or not isn’t your,or your wife’s,call.That’s for the couple to decide.
However if your wife is really a marriage councellor then I’m sure she’ll be well aware of what often happens when a same age marriage reaches the point where the wife is ageing faster than her husband and then he gets an offer by a much younger girl.
Which probably explains the Jeremy Forrest case.
If he is still in a loving caring relationship he wouldn’t look twice till death us do part and all that. If the relationship has problems or has run it’s course he may be tempted.
So,in that case,why not just look for another divorced or widowed older woman of the same age,like I’m expected to do now, instead of going for a woman in her teens/20’s to have another family with thereby removing that possibility for a single bloke,who’s never had that chance,to try to pull her instead .
Your so regimented and mechanical on the subject of relationships when real life isn’t like that, you dont plan (to an extent), you cant control timing, you can’t control who you fall in love with, and most of all you can’t control a women.
Just because a single teenager goes in with a older man it doesn’t “remove” the possibility of a young single bloke “looking” for a young wife, there are millions of girls out there so a few out of the equation and out of the game won’t make a difference.
Haven’t you ever met a women say in her 40s that you like or have you just never given anyone over the age of 20 a chance?
Like I say, you are so regimented and trying to control something that’s not controllable. Yes we all work to our own personal preferences but only to some degree, meeting a bird is not like shopping for your favourite source to put over your pasta.
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