keebs26uk:
He was at a rave not a club, we all know loads of underage people sneak in at raves
Yes your right, like I say the organisers try and keep it in a close community when “spreading the word” but a few young people do get wind of it and that’s where all the problems start.
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
But no I don’t agree that the subject is about the Savile case either at national level or on this topic.It’s obvious that the age police nutters are hijacking a desperately sad situation for lots of victims to impose a draconian anti age gap law regime.Your idea has let the cat out of the bag as to what the real agenda actually is.That being an indiscriminate witch hunt all based on the crimes of a dead man who the law and witnesses left too late to bring to justice.If Jeremy Forrest’s defence council allow any case against him to go ahead in the environment that this case has raised nationally it would be suicidal.
It’s not about the “age police” at all, it’s about a sick twisted pedo who preyed on young girls who didn’t no any better.
I think your letting your views on age gaps get in the way of what is right and wrong.
Going out with a 15 year old is wrong ok.It depends on what you mean by ‘going out with’.There’s,so far,no age segregation laws anywhere that say that a 15 year old girl musn’t have any communication with someone older in just the same way as if it’s someone of her own age.Although having said that you wouldn’t believe it with the views of the age police on here.
Wrong (in your view) doesn’t make it wrong.
Ok so whats the youngest age of a girl that you think is acceptable to take out for a coffee??
As I’ve said I can’t see anything wrong or criminal with what Joe Philpot did nor obviously does the law so there’s your answer. 
FarnboroughBoy11:
Also I want to add, I just got back from a rave in Lambeth and I pulled a bird that was 17… Pulled as in she fancied the pants off me and I gave her my number, I am seeing someone though so I won’t pursue it but I still have doubts to whether that is morally right anyway, I am 24 by the way.
You’re 24 and you’d tell a bird of 17 that you’re not interested when she is,assuming that she was looking for something serious and you’d have been single with no one,and that she was not just the typical college career girl trying to get off for the night before getting back to ‘her career’ type bs which it seems all about these days.
If anyone with those views found themselves in my position in 30 years time then they’d have deserved it,unlike me. 
FarnboroughBoy11:
Muckaway:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Also I want to add, I just got back from a rave in Lambeth and I pulled a bird that was 17… Pulled as in she fancied the pants off me and I gave her my number, I am seeing someone though so I won’t pursue it but I still have doubts to whether that is morally right anyway, I am 24 by the way.If she was 17 what was she doing in a pub/club? Tjat happened in Oxford a few years back; 20odd year old boned a 15 year old and was prosecuted. She was in a club, buying alcohol so why should he need to ask for id if the club staff didn’t?ow top, ■■■■ jacked up, short skirt and alcohol, how are you supposed to know?
More importantly, was this bird fit■■?
It wasn’t the most legitimate thing, a few lads set up their decks in a tunnel under a bridge in a park lol normally the average age of these things is mid twenties, it’s well organised and of course illegal so keeping the word away from ■■■■■■ up teenagers who bring trouble is a priority.
But yes that is a dangerous game with underage girls getting into clubs.
I would have no idea this girl was 17, it was only when a mate of mine pointed it out to me after. And yes she was stunning.
But when he told me I suddenly thought of this thread.
I don’t know why buy I think if she was 18 I wouldn’t have a problem, it’s strange but that’s just how I think.
You do know that the age of consent is 16 not 18 and that just relates to a ■■■■■■ relationship anyway not just having a chat and a coffee to get to know a bird for at least few months which is how any decent relationship starts.
Or have I missed something and we are now effectively under US federal law. 
kr79:
Carryfast it wasn’t a case of the best looking women in the 70s going for older blokes as you insinuate it was a case of the odd one and the more of your drivel I read your lack of sucsess with the lady’s comes down to the fact you are a moron.
For the last time jimmy savile wasn’t gay!!!
I think you’ll find it was more than ‘the odd one’ that even Savile got off with at the time let alone all the ones I saw back in the day who’d happily give me the cold shoulder while being more than happy to be asked for a dance by (a much) older bloke.It seems to me that you think you know everything about a time that you weren’t even living in just by what you’re fed second hand by others who’s experiences didn’t match those of mine.The fact is I was there in the day of the relevant age you weren’t so as Regan would say shut it.
However if the problem was all about me being an unter mensch as you seem to think then that also shoots down your own bs argument about old middle aged blokes being with much younger teenaged women.Because the bird of my own age that I wanted obviously ended up with the better (much older) option regardless of his age.
I was reading the paper today and there were photos of three of Jimmy Savile’s alleged victims, placed alongside photographs of themselves as teenagers.
The caption read “Now then now then now then” 
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
But no I don’t agree that the subject is about the Savile case either at national level or on this topic.It’s obvious that the age police nutters are hijacking a desperately sad situation for lots of victims to impose a draconian anti age gap law regime.Your idea has let the cat out of the bag as to what the real agenda actually is.That being an indiscriminate witch hunt all based on the crimes of a dead man who the law and witnesses left too late to bring to justice.If Jeremy Forrest’s defence council allow any case against him to go ahead in the environment that this case has raised nationally it would be suicidal.It’s not about the “age police” at all, it’s about a sick twisted pedo who preyed on young girls who didn’t no any better.
I think your letting your views on age gaps get in the way of what is right and wrong.
Going out with a 15 year old is wrong ok.It depends on what you mean by ‘going out with’.There’s,so far,no age segregation laws anywhere that say that a 15 year old girl musn’t have any communication with someone older in just the same way as if it’s someone of her own age.Although having said that you wouldn’t believe it with the views of the age police on here.
Wrong (in your view) doesn’t make it wrong.
Ok so whats the youngest age of a girl that you think is acceptable to take out for a coffee??
As I’ve said I can’t see anything wrong or criminal with what Joe Philpot did nor obviously does the law so there’s your answer.
But you haven’t answered the question have you. Forget Philpot and your mates, what’s the youngest you would take out for an “innocent” coffee??
Harry Monk:
I was reading the paper today and there were photos of three of Jimmy Savile’s alleged victims, placed alongside photographs of themselves as teenagers.The caption read “Now then now then now then”
Harry , you had a snifter this lunchtime ? its on this thread allready… 
shytalk:
Harry Monk:
I was reading the paper today and there were photos of three of Jimmy Savile’s alleged victims, placed alongside photographs of themselves as teenagers.The caption read “Now then now then now then”
Harry , you had a snifter this lunchtime ? its on this thread allready…
Oh is it, sorry! 
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Muckaway:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Also I want to add, I just got back from a rave in Lambeth and I pulled a bird that was 17… Pulled as in she fancied the pants off me and I gave her my number, I am seeing someone though so I won’t pursue it but I still have doubts to whether that is morally right anyway, I am 24 by the way.If she was 17 what was she doing in a pub/club? Tjat happened in Oxford a few years back; 20odd year old boned a 15 year old and was prosecuted. She was in a club, buying alcohol so why should he need to ask for id if the club staff didn’t?ow top, ■■■■ jacked up, short skirt and alcohol, how are you supposed to know?
More importantly, was this bird fit■■?
It wasn’t the most legitimate thing, a few lads set up their decks in a tunnel under a bridge in a park lol normally the average age of these things is mid twenties, it’s well organised and of course illegal so keeping the word away from ■■■■■■ up teenagers who bring trouble is a priority.
But yes that is a dangerous game with underage girls getting into clubs.
I would have no idea this girl was 17, it was only when a mate of mine pointed it out to me after. And yes she was stunning.
But when he told me I suddenly thought of this thread.
I don’t know why buy I think if she was 18 I wouldn’t have a problem, it’s strange but that’s just how I think.You do know that the age of consent is 16 not 18 and that just relates to a ■■■■■■ relationship anyway not just having a chat and a coffee to get to know a bird for at least few months which is how any decent relationship starts.
Or have I missed something and we are now effectively under US federal law.
Yes I know it’s 16 but that doesn’t mean you should take advantage of it by grooming young girls for when they are indeed 16.
It’s just not right Carryfast, a 16 year old is still a kid, she can’t drive, she can’t have a drink, she can’t gamble, she’s a kid!!!
So this bird I met was 17 and in answer to your other question yes I think we will see each other as friends in a group but I wouldn’t go and meet up with her one on one because I feel she still a bit too young for me however if I was 19 I think that would be ok. I think a 17 year old is a grey area but at the end of the day if I had to think about it then it’s not comfortable is it.
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
But no I don’t agree that the subject is about the Savile case either at national level or on this topic.It’s obvious that the age police nutters are hijacking a desperately sad situation for lots of victims to impose a draconian anti age gap law regime.Your idea has let the cat out of the bag as to what the real agenda actually is.That being an indiscriminate witch hunt all based on the crimes of a dead man who the law and witnesses left too late to bring to justice.If Jeremy Forrest’s defence council allow any case against him to go ahead in the environment that this case has raised nationally it would be suicidal.It’s not about the “age police” at all, it’s about a sick twisted pedo who preyed on young girls who didn’t no any better.
I think your letting your views on age gaps get in the way of what is right and wrong.
Going out with a 15 year old is wrong ok.It depends on what you mean by ‘going out with’.There’s,so far,no age segregation laws anywhere that say that a 15 year old girl musn’t have any communication with someone older in just the same way as if it’s someone of her own age.Although having said that you wouldn’t believe it with the views of the age police on here.
Wrong (in your view) doesn’t make it wrong.
Ok so whats the youngest age of a girl that you think is acceptable to take out for a coffee??
As I’ve said I can’t see anything wrong or criminal with what Joe Philpot did nor obviously does the law so there’s your answer.
But you haven’t answered the question have you. Forget Philpot and your mates, what’s the youngest you would take out for an “innocent” coffee??
Why are the words ‘‘innocent coffee’’ in commas 
.The Philpot legal precedent is exactly what I said.That’s my answer and all the figures you need for my view related to the ‘youngest’ on the subject are contained within that case.If you can’t work out what that means that’s not my fault.
‘‘Unless’’ that is the age gap police have changed the goal posts since that case in which case we’re effectively under US federal law.Which is a law I understand but there’s going to be a lot more over 18 single blokes than just me,who’ll be cursing it,when they find themselves single and on the shelf,because every single girl,under the age of 18,will be off limits to them.While most of the ones over that age are already spoken for by under 18 blokes of their own age.Many of those blokes,in same age relationships,will then no doubt dump their same age wives when they turn 35 for a younger model thereby adding to the competition for the few remaining single 20 something girls.Many also going for other blokes’ 20 something wives because there’s nothing else available.
In addition to others suddenly finding themselves a criminal overnight at the age of 18 if they continue to have a ■■■■■■ relationship with the ‘child’,still under 18,who they’ve been legally able to have the same relationship with since she was 16.
Welcome to America you’re welcome to it as for me it’s probably all too late for me to care or give a zb.
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Muckaway:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Also I want to add, I just got back from a rave in Lambeth and I pulled a bird that was 17… Pulled as in she fancied the pants off me and I gave her my number, I am seeing someone though so I won’t pursue it but I still have doubts to whether that is morally right anyway, I am 24 by the way.If she was 17 what was she doing in a pub/club? Tjat happened in Oxford a few years back; 20odd year old boned a 15 year old and was prosecuted. She was in a club, buying alcohol so why should he need to ask for id if the club staff didn’t?ow top, ■■■■ jacked up, short skirt and alcohol, how are you supposed to know?
More importantly, was this bird fit■■?
It wasn’t the most legitimate thing, a few lads set up their decks in a tunnel under a bridge in a park lol normally the average age of these things is mid twenties, it’s well organised and of course illegal so keeping the word away from ■■■■■■ up teenagers who bring trouble is a priority.
But yes that is a dangerous game with underage girls getting into clubs.
I would have no idea this girl was 17, it was only when a mate of mine pointed it out to me after. And yes she was stunning.
But when he told me I suddenly thought of this thread.
I don’t know why buy I think if she was 18 I wouldn’t have a problem, it’s strange but that’s just how I think.You do know that the age of consent is 16 not 18 and that just relates to a ■■■■■■ relationship anyway not just having a chat and a coffee to get to know a bird for at least few months which is how any decent relationship starts.
Or have I missed something and we are now effectively under US federal law.
Yes I know it’s 16 but that doesn’t mean you should take advantage of it by grooming young girls for when they are indeed 16.
It’s just not right Carryfast, a 16 year old is still a kid, she can’t drive, she can’t have a drink, she can’t gamble, she’s a kid!!!So this bird I met was 17 and in answer to your other question yes I think we will see each other as friends in a group but I wouldn’t go and meet up with her one on one because I feel she still a bit too young for me however if I was 19 I think that would be ok. I think a 17 year old is a grey area but at the end of the day if I had to think about it then it’s not comfortable is it.
You’ve got so many age hang ups she’d be better off with me. As I’ve said to kr I don’t give a zb about your issues the fact is what Joe Philpot did was legal and his wife was old enough to know that she loved the bloke she married and he’s got the happy marriage and the family to prove it and I’d defend his right and freedom to do that to the point of taking up arms just like people have done over the years to defend freedom.
Having said that it’s ironic that I’ve lost out to exactly the issue of an older bloke who’s had his chances in life to have a wife and family getting another one while I get none but at the end of the day it’s all about the freedom for anyone to love anyone they want within the law.Which is a reasonable description of his marriage.But how the zb could he have groomed anyone considering that he’s still married to her and she loves him and he loves her with a family resulting from that.
No doubt you and the rest of the age police would like to kick down his door and lock him up.Brilliant move to help his wife and family.
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
But no I don’t agree that the subject is about the Savile case either at national level or on this topic.It’s obvious that the age police nutters are hijacking a desperately sad situation for lots of victims to impose a draconian anti age gap law regime.Your idea has let the cat out of the bag as to what the real agenda actually is.That being an indiscriminate witch hunt all based on the crimes of a dead man who the law and witnesses left too late to bring to justice.If Jeremy Forrest’s defence council allow any case against him to go ahead in the environment that this case has raised nationally it would be suicidal.It’s not about the “age police” at all, it’s about a sick twisted pedo who preyed on young girls who didn’t no any better.
I think your letting your views on age gaps get in the way of what is right and wrong.
Going out with a 15 year old is wrong ok.It depends on what you mean by ‘going out with’.There’s,so far,no age segregation laws anywhere that say that a 15 year old girl musn’t have any communication with someone older in just the same way as if it’s someone of her own age.Although having said that you wouldn’t believe it with the views of the age police on here.
Wrong (in your view) doesn’t make it wrong.
Ok so whats the youngest age of a girl that you think is acceptable to take out for a coffee??
As I’ve said I can’t see anything wrong or criminal with what Joe Philpot did nor obviously does the law so there’s your answer.
But you haven’t answered the question have you. Forget Philpot and your mates, what’s the youngest you would take out for an “innocent” coffee??
Why are the words ‘‘innocent coffee’’ in commas
Ok so 15 then… (I don’t know why you beat around the bush and don’t just say it) maybe a part of you does in fact think its wrong.
And innocent was in commas because it’s not innocent at all, you would be taking a child out on a date with the intentions or having a ■■■■■■ relationship with her as soon as she turns 16 just because thats the law.
Like I said before if the age of consent was reduced to 14 I have no doubt that you and your mates and Philpot would take fully advantage of it.
It’s sick mate.
Is it just me or has “innocent coffee” been used a bit too much? Sounds creepy to me…
FarnboroughBoy11:
Why are the words ‘‘innocent coffee’’ in commas
Ok so 15 then… (I don’t know why you beat around the bush and don’t just say it) maybe a part of you does in fact think its wrong.
And innocent was in commas because it’s not innocent at all, you would be taking a child out on a date with the intentions or having a ■■■■■■ relationship with her as soon as she turns 16 just because thats the law.
Like I said before if the age of consent was reduced to 14 I have no doubt that you and your mates and Philpot would take fully advantage of it.
It’s sick mate.
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Which part of 16 is about right don’t you understand and that just actually means from that age ‘she’ can do whatever ‘she’ wants.In my case,unlike the Philpot one,if I’d been that lucky,I’d also have wanted to marry her before starting any family which would have meant waiting until she was at least 18.Because there’s no way that many parents would be likely to give permission,for any middle aged bloke,to marry their under 18 daughter which is likely to cause a problem if the girl wants to start a family as soon as possible which probably explains all the timing in the Phiplot case.However in this environment probably starting any reasonably large age gap relationship even close to that example is now likely to be untenable anyway.
However it’s not sick because he loves her and she loves him,they are married and have been since she was 17.They also have a family and no laws were broken.That’s all about freedom.Having said that my issues are more about the one concerning single blokes of whatever age who’ve never had the chance to have a wife and family losing out to married/divorced ones.Which makes the idea of anyone like me defending him even more ironic but what it does prove is that my argument is just about the freedom to love within the law nothing more.
Maybe it might help if I balance my view of the Philpot case with some reservations which I’ve got concerning the Jeremy Forrest one.
It would be interesting to get some answers as to why he doesn’t seem to have told Megan Stammers to have waited until his marriage had been officialy ended by divorce.If he really thought that she loved him and if he loved her then the wait wouldn’t have mattered and would have beeen a legal requirement for him to have re married Megan Stammers at the age of 16-18 or at any age in the future anyway.
In which case why the need to run to France.
What happened while they were in France.
Was their hotel accomodation all booked as single seperate rooms.
Depending on the answers to those questions.Was there a ■■■■■■ motive for the trip to France to engage a 15 year old British girl, subject to British law concerning the age of consent,in a ■■■■■■ relationship under French laws concerning the age of consent which seem to be different/lower than British ones.
That’s grooming not what Joe Philpot did.
I never did like teachers especially married ones who go after single girls.Even more especially if they intend on having a ■■■■■■ relationship with a girl who’s under the age of consent. 
As for your own age gap hang ups.Every year older a girl is before having her family is a year less that her family get to know and have her around.While as for a bloke being as close in age as possible to his wife that puts the marriage into the likely zone where it’s as likely that the bloke will end up a widower as his wife end up a widow.Trust me I’ve seen it and that’s one of the reason why my dad advised me to go for a younger girl and stop worrying about losing out with one of my own age to an older bloke.It’s a bit like the bloke being put in the lifeboat of a fast sinking ship first and then having to watch his wife go down with the ship instead of him.
Hughie Green’s turn now.Someone else tomorrow, possibly alive to answer the questions 
Muckaway:
Is it just me or has “innocent coffee” been used a bit too much? Sounds creepy to me…
The description ‘innocent coffee’ wasn’t mine which was more all about a chat and if you’ve got a problem with that then I’d say you really should go and join the taliban because they’ve got very similar views to yours regarding women communicating with,or even being seen by,blokes who they don’t approve of.
But in a world where 24 year old blokes are frightened of dating birds of 17 and in which we’ve got calls for a 15 year age gap limit law I’m not surprised that you’d find anything ‘creepy’ unless it was a bloke of around her own age in which case it all suddenly isn’t ‘creepy’ any more…
mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sc … ree-181818
So who got the better deal in life her or Nicola Philpot . I won’t hold my breath waiting for an answer.But maybe both girls’ parents might be able to put you right.
FarnboroughBoy11:
So this bird I met was 17 and in answer to your other question yes I think we will see each other as friends in a group but I wouldn’t go and meet up with her one on one because I feel she still a bit too young for me however if I was 19 I think that would be ok. I think a 17 year old is a grey area but at the end of the day if I had to think about it then it’s not comfortable is it.
So if there’s any evidence out there that Prince Charles was seeing Diana Spencer on a ‘one to one’ basis would you have a problem with that .
If not I think you’re splitting hairs about the girl’s age and you’ve lost the plot in worrying about the 7 year age gap.
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
So this bird I met was 17 and in answer to your other question yes I think we will see each other as friends in a group but I wouldn’t go and meet up with her one on one because I feel she still a bit too young for me however if I was 19 I think that would be ok. I think a 17 year old is a grey area but at the end of the day if I had to think about it then it’s not comfortable is it.So if there’s any evidence out there that Prince Charles was seeing Diana Spencer on a ‘one to one’ basis would you have a problem with that
If not I think you’re splitting hairs about the girl’s age and you’ve lost the plot in worrying about the 7 year age gap.
No I haven’t got a problem with that as it happens. Maybe I’m just too nice, I still think a 17 year old still doesn’t know what she wants and I doubt her old man would be happy about it either. Like I say,17 is a grey area for me, I’ll probably poke her when she’s 18 anyway if I’m single by then, I’m in no rush. 
I have had quite a few girlfriends and I have found that below 21 they seem to like to sleep around. Unless I only know or meet slags
They and there mates all tend to want willy