Jimmy Savile

[carryfast]

kr79:
This philpot bloke we have no proof they did or didn’t sleep together for arguements sake they didn’t until she was 16 no we can’t call him a peadophile as he hasn’t broken the definition of the law but its not right. Same as some millionaire who signs up to a tax avoidance scheme like jimmy Carr did. It’s not illegal but its not morally right.
I know it’s not as serious but its just to show a point.
What I don’t get Is my parents are both a similar age to you and met in the 70s same as lots of my friends parents a d thousands of other couples in the uk some are still happily together some aint but that’s life. The way you make it sound evey bloke between 16 and 21 was standing at the bar knocking back light ale as all the young girls were on the dance floor with middle age John Travoltas. Well mine your mate switchlogics and thousands of people born in the 70s and 80s prove that. This bird who blew you out couldn’t have put you off talking to another woman for the rest of your days. I think judging by what you post on here you need to look closer to home at your lack of sucsess with the lady’s.
As I said before I’m no person to judge people but its the impression I get.
As for savile been gay that shows you up to been a fool as it was obviously mid teen girls floated his boat he just didn’t have your self control resisting them.
Anyway I’m off to the pub to not chat up ■■■■■■■■

Mid teens girls obviously did float Savile’s boat but just not in the way those girls thought before the zb got his hands on them and not knowing at the time that he was really into blokes but most of them would have kicked the zb out of him as soon as he put his arm round them.

I’m not saying that no one in the 1970’s found a bird who was into someone of their own age but the fact is there weren’t more young single women than single blokes looking for them and if you subtract the single girls taken by older married and divorced blokes someone has to go without and as usual my luck has always been zb.So probably would have been better off joining up and getting blown up in Ireland which would have been even more irony but I’m not getting into that here.

Although having said that in my experience those older blokes were only looking for the best lookers and it was those birds which were the ones which I was looking for too.Obviously nothing changes in the Megan Stammers case.

[carryfast]

raymundo:

Carryfast:

raymundo:
You could always buy a young Thai bride CF, and go and [zb] well live there, that would satisfy your ■■■■ urges surely? (and it woud take remove that massive chip off your shoulder)

Another zb’ing idiot who can’t understand the difference between looking for a wife and looking for a ■■■■■■.

Ooooooooooh, you ■■■■■ !!!

Why don’t you not marry a young ■■■■■■ then?,

This might come as a shock to you but hookers aren’t in it for marriage they’re in it for money.

[raymundo]

Carryfast:

raymundo:

Carryfast:

raymundo:
You could always buy a young Thai bride CF, and go and [zb] well live there, that would satisfy your ■■■■ urges surely? (and it woud take remove that massive chip off your shoulder)

Another zb’ing idiot who can’t understand the difference between looking for a wife and looking for a ■■■■■■.

Ooooooooooh, you ■■■■■ !!!

Why don’t you not marry a young ■■■■■■ then?,

This might come as a shock to you but hookers aren’t in it for marriage they’re in it for money.

Well well I’ll be ■■■■■■, I never knew that !! is that really true?

BTW. please refrain from calling me a ■■■■■■ idiot, 'cos I might have you know I did an extended education at an exclusive school that was ‘approved’.

[harry_monk]

Carryfast:
There’s going to be loads of competition soon from all the Chinese blokes looking for Thai ‘brides’ because the Chinese are saying one child only there and they’re aborting all their girls and keeping all the blokes.

It’s even worse than that, be warned that although this link doesn’t breach any Trucknet rules, it isn’t very nice reading. I did choose a link which didn’t have any graphic images, although they can be found.

taliacarner.com/deadnewborningutter.html

This is pretty horrific stuff, Saudi Arabia is enormously repressive towards women but at least they allow them to be born. We used to say it was unethical to trade with South Africa in the days of apartheid just because black people had to sit on a different bus and yet our Government is so in bed with China that they have even given them all our jobs.

[switchlogic]

Carryfast:

raymundo:

Carryfast:

raymundo:
You could always buy a young Thai bride CF, and go and [zb] well live there, that would satisfy your ■■■■ urges surely? (and it woud take remove that massive chip off your shoulder)

Another zb’ing idiot who can’t understand the difference between looking for a wife and looking for a ■■■■■■.

Ooooooooooh, you ■■■■■ !!!

Why don’t you not marry a young ■■■■■■ then?,

This might come as a shock to you but hookers aren’t in it for marriage they’re in it for money.

Well from what you said it seemed you were looking for a ■■■■■■. The clue in Raymondos post was BRIDE. I know you are really crap at reading but come on.

[raymundo]

It seems to me that CF is extremely jealous of anyone who’s getting what he isn’t from either ■■■, whether underage or not.

[keebs26uk]

Harry Monk:

keebs26uk:
Like I said we will never agree on age gaps to be honest a 20 year old going out with a 50 year old is wrong.

But as you say yes there’s no law against it fair enough and good point made. But does that make it right just because there’s no law ? I mean there’s a lot of laws people don’t agree with but we just get on with it.

If a 20 year old girl finds 50 year old men attractive and a 50 year old man finds 20 year old girls attractive then with all due respect, who are you to say that that is “wrong”? Different people are attracted to different things, might be fat chicks, gingers, amputees anything, and it’s nobody’s business other than theirs if they are adult enough to make that choice freely.

Mr monk I normally agree with you but on this one I can’t it ain’t right.

But then like I said this ain’t about that its about Jimmy Saville and how sick he was. Touching young girls in hospital who are brain damaged and similar girls

This whole subject is getting twisted

[harry_monk]

keebs26uk:
Mr monk I normally agree with you but on this one I can’t it ain’t right.

If a 16 year old is mature enough to decide that he wants to go and fight a war in Afghanistan and an 18 year old is mature enough to take out a mortgage, then a 20 year old is mature enough to decide what type of men she wants to share her body with.

[davepenn54]

Harry Monk:

keebs26uk:
Like I said we will never agree on age gaps to be honest a 20 year old going out with a 50 year old is wrong.

But as you say yes there’s no law against it fair enough and good point made. But does that make it right just because there’s no law ? I mean there’s a lot of laws people don’t agree with but we just get on with it.

If a 20 year old girl finds 50 year old men attractive and a 50 year old man finds 20 year old girls attractive then with all due respect, who are you to say that that is “wrong”? Different people are attracted to different things, might be fat chicks, gingers, amputees anything, and it’s nobody’s business other than theirs if they are adult enough to make that choice freely.

Mr monk I normally agree with you but on this one I can’t it ain’t right.

But then like I said this ain’t about that its about Jimmy Saville and how sick he was. Touching young girls in hospital who are brain damaged and similar girls

This whole subject is getting twisted
[/quote]
@keebs26uk, you have said in another post that you are 28 ? Tell me why you think a 20yr old girl wouldn’t find a 50yr old man attractive

@carryfast, why do you keep saying that Jimmy Saville was gay ? He was, allegedly, a predatory ■■■■■■■■■■ with a liking for young pubescent girls (12 - 16) You have a very mixed up understanding of ■■■■■■■■■ maybe that accounts for your lack of success with the ladies eh.

Regards
Dave Penn;

[carryfast]

Harry Monk:

keebs26uk:
Mr monk I normally agree with you but on this one I can’t it ain’t right.

If a 16 year old is mature enough to decide that he wants to go and fight a war in Afghanistan and an 18 year old is mature enough to take out a mortgage, then a 20 year old is mature enough to decide what type of men she wants to share her body with.

If Joe Philpot hasn’t been hauled off to jail yet,by the age police type nutters on here,leaving his wife and kids wondering why her husband and their Dad won’t be around for a while to spend the time he’s got left with them.Then 20 is an overstatement.

[carryfast]

davepenn54:

Harry Monk:

keebs26uk:
Like I said we will never agree on age gaps to be honest a 20 year old going out with a 50 year old is wrong.

But as you say yes there’s no law against it fair enough and good point made. But does that make it right just because there’s no law ? I mean there’s a lot of laws people don’t agree with but we just get on with it.

If a 20 year old girl finds 50 year old men attractive and a 50 year old man finds 20 year old girls attractive then with all due respect, who are you to say that that is “wrong”? Different people are attracted to different things, might be fat chicks, gingers, amputees anything, and it’s nobody’s business other than theirs if they are adult enough to make that choice freely.

Mr monk I normally agree with you but on this one I can’t it ain’t right.

@keebs26uk, you have said in another post that you are 28 ? Tell me why you think a 20yr old girl wouldn’t find a 50yr old man attractive

@carryfast, why do you keep saying that Jimmy Saville was gay ? He was, allegedly, a predatory ■■■■■■■■■■ with a liking for young pubescent girls (12 - 16) You have a very mixed up understanding of ■■■■■■■■■ maybe that accounts for your lack of success with the ladies eh.

Regards
Dave Penn;
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As I’ve said how many people have been locked up because their defence brief wasn’t good enough and the jury was made up of badly informed zealots such as those here.Who’s opinions had been affected by issues of the type which applied the Savile case,in cases involving just nothing more than an older bloke falling in love with a younger woman and her falling in love with him.

The subject isn’t being twisted at all.It’s obvious that reading the posts here that most jury service members and maybe many in law enforcement wouldn’t be able to differentiate between one type of case in which the defendant would be innocent and another in which the defendant would be guilty or at least have charges to answer.

As for Savile’s preferences just by putting two and two together in which it’s obvious that as a single bloke he was never looking for a wife in his relationships with women.It’s also obvious that he didn’t like women or he wouldn’t have treated them in the way he did.Then I saw a newspaper report that said one of his accusers was male.Regardless of that it’s obvious that Savile was a pervert who should have been locked up indefinitely.Unlike Clive Richards,Joe Philpot,and on the evidence,(so far),Jeremy Forrest.

It’s also obvious that he wasn’t just looking for ‘pubescent’ girls because women aren’t pubescent at the age of 15-16 which is why that is the age of consent in many countries including here and it’s also why girls can get pregnant even under that age let alone at the age of 16 when they are biologically adults and legally entitled to date and have a relationship with whoever they want.At least up to recently although I wouldn’t be surprised if the age police have moved the goal posts around since Joe Philpot married his wife at the age of 17 having had her first child by him at the age of 16.

So two questions.
Is Joe Philpot a ■■■■■■■■■■ in your expert opinion and if yes why isn’t he in prison .

But no my lack of success with the women has just been about luck and fate which as usual applies to most things in life except death and taxes.

But as for the idea of a woman of 20 now being classed as off limits for a date by any bloke who fancies her,regardless of his age,you really are just getting (very) silly with the age gap police bs now.

As I’ve said the Savile case is just being used as a trojan horse and being taken advantage of,by those with a totally different agenda,to whip up absolutely bonkers public perceptions of lawful,perfectly acceptable,large age gap relationships,as being in some way perverted and therefore subject to criminal sanctions.Which suggests,as I’ve said previously,the issue is mostly about large age gap relationships in general being seen as socially unnacceptable and then cases such as the Savile one being used to justify such bs.

So why,in your expert opinion,isn’t it ‘right’ for a middle aged bloke to date/marry a 20 + year old girl .
No doubt your reasons won’t be much,if any,different as to those why you think that he can’t date and have a relationship with and then marry a 16-20 year old girl that he first met and dated when she was 15 as in the Philpot case.

[carryfast]

switchlogic:

Carryfast:

raymundo:

Carryfast:

raymundo:
You could always buy a young Thai bride CF, and go and [zb] well live there, that would satisfy your ■■■■ urges surely? (and it woud take remove that massive chip off your shoulder)

Another zb’ing idiot who can’t understand the difference between looking for a wife and looking for a ■■■■■■.

Ooooooooooh, you ■■■■■ !!!

Why don’t you not marry a young ■■■■■■ then?,

This might come as a shock to you but hookers aren’t in it for marriage they’re in it for money.

Well from what you said it seemed you were looking for a ■■■■■■. The clue in Raymondos post was BRIDE. I know you are really crap at reading but come on.

The clue in mine was the word money.Thai ‘brides’ aren’t generally looking for an older British husband they’re just looking to get out of a poverty ridden existence and as I’ve said previously that’s even assuming that I was looking for an ethnic Chinese wife which I’m not.

[farnboroughboy11]

Carryfast:

FarnboroughBoy11:

Carryfast:
But no I don’t agree that the subject is about the Savile case either at national level or on this topic.It’s obvious that the age police nutters are hijacking a desperately sad situation for lots of victims to impose a draconian anti age gap law regime.Your idea has let the cat out of the bag as to what the real agenda actually is.That being an indiscriminate witch hunt all based on the crimes of a dead man who the law and witnesses left too late to bring to justice.If Jeremy Forrest’s defence council allow any case against him to go ahead in the environment that this case has raised nationally it would be suicidal.

It’s not about the “age police” at all, it’s about a sick twisted pedo who preyed on young girls who didn’t no any better.

I think your letting your views on age gaps get in the way of what is right and wrong.
Going out with a 15 year old is wrong ok.

It depends on what you mean by ‘going out with’.There’s,so far,no age segregation laws anywhere that say that a 15 year old girl musn’t have any communication with someone older in just the same way as if it’s someone of her own age.Although having said that you wouldn’t believe it with the views of the age police on here.

Wrong (in your view) doesn’t make it wrong.

Ok so whats the youngest age of a girl that you think is acceptable to take out for a coffee??

[farnboroughboy11]

Also I want to add, I just got back from a rave in Lambeth and I pulled a bird that was 17… Pulled as in she fancied the pants off me and I gave her my number, I am seeing someone though so I won’t pursue it but I still have doubts to whether that is morally right anyway, I am 24 by the way.

[keebs26uk]

^^ +1 what farn said
It’s like if I pull anyone younger then 21, I would feel very weird because I’m 28

Dave I never said she wouldn’t fancy him. I know there’s quite a few young girls who like a 40-50 year old man. I merely said I don’t agree with it but its there choice at the end of the day. I also really couldn’t care less as its none of my business what 2 people do. I’m sure when the bloke is dead the young girl will then be a women and find someone else.

I will also add I know a 26 year old girl who’s been going out with a 47 year old man. I first laughed at it, like also many other people I know did. Everyone used to talk and laugh and say things like thats not going to work etc etc, and isn’t that disgusting etc etc. I really couldn’t care less as its none if my business, I’m not one to interfere with other people’s lives.

I’m not getting getting dragged into a age debate. It is mr fest going off subject, the fact being Saville touched up girls against there will.

He used hospitals to get close to girls, and again touch them without there consent. How the hell has this age crap got anything to do with the sick lifestyle Saville lived ?

I await another essay of crap about age gaps and Philpots instead of talk about Saville

[legend_scania]

What ■■■■ me off they say it when he passed away so he can’t defend him self

[kr79]

Carryfast it wasn’t a case of the best looking women in the 70s going for older blokes as you insinuate it was a case of the odd one and the more of your drivel I read your lack of sucsess with the lady’s comes down to the fact you are a moron.
For the last time jimmy savile wasn’t gay!!!

[muckaway]

FarnboroughBoy11:
Also I want to add, I just got back from a rave in Lambeth and I pulled a bird that was 17… Pulled as in she fancied the pants off me and I gave her my number, I am seeing someone though so I won’t pursue it but I still have doubts to whether that is morally right anyway, I am 24 by the way.

If she was 17 what was she doing in a pub/club? Tjat happened in Oxford a few years back; 20odd year old boned a 15 year old and was prosecuted. She was in a club, buying alcohol so why should he need to ask for id if the club staff didn’t?ow top, ■■■■ jacked up, short skirt and alcohol, how are you supposed to know?
More importantly, was this bird fit■■?

[keebs26uk]

He was at a rave not a club, we all know loads of underage people sneak in at raves

[farnboroughboy11]

Muckaway:

FarnboroughBoy11:
Also I want to add, I just got back from a rave in Lambeth and I pulled a bird that was 17… Pulled as in she fancied the pants off me and I gave her my number, I am seeing someone though so I won’t pursue it but I still have doubts to whether that is morally right anyway, I am 24 by the way.

If she was 17 what was she doing in a pub/club? Tjat happened in Oxford a few years back; 20odd year old boned a 15 year old and was prosecuted. She was in a club, buying alcohol so why should he need to ask for id if the club staff didn’t?ow top, ■■■■ jacked up, short skirt and alcohol, how are you supposed to know?
More importantly, was this bird fit■■?

It wasn’t the most legitimate thing, a few lads set up their decks in a tunnel under a bridge in a park lol normally the average age of these things is mid twenties, it’s well organised and of course illegal so keeping the word away from ■■■■■■ up teenagers who bring trouble is a priority.

But yes that is a dangerous game with underage girls getting into clubs.
I would have no idea this girl was 17, it was only when a mate of mine pointed it out to me after. And yes she was stunning.
But when he told me I suddenly thought of this thread.
I don’t know why buy I think if she was 18 I wouldn’t have a problem, it’s strange but that’s just how I think.