I heard he wants to renationalise the railways and utility companies. Not bad ideas but will it stop there? Who wants to see Stobarts form part of BRS? Thankfully we don’t have a British owned car industry or we could see a return of BL and all the utter ■■■■ they produced and caused.
We’d end up subsidising the workshy and more human rights for the least valuable in society.
Comrade Corbyn, no thankyou.
I could go on but it would get boring. 
As I said it takes ( an ex in this case ) Socialist to know a zb Socialist when I see one. 
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No disrespect intended but it was bloody boring when you started an before you said owt that aint the same as on every thread you reply too !!
Carryfast:
Steve66:
ChrisArbon:
an honest bloke with principals like Corbyn?
I’ll take Corbyn every time!+1
Stalin’s supporters probably said exactly the same thing.
Probably.
But I’d prefer Corbyn to Heil Cameron.
Carryfast:
Juddian:
zip929:
Can you really imagine Corbyn as the next PM?
This country is [zb] enough already without him adding to it.And what pray would be the difference, Dave talks tough for our media to spin, Merkel kicks Dave’s arse up the street, Dave does as he’s told…nothings going to change, the borders are still open to all, the national debt is still spiralling, the police are still chasing 70’s DJ’s for groping a ■■■■ 40 years ago when another victims wallet, sorry, memory, has flashed up a warning.
The talking head on the telly supposed to be in charge won’t make a scrap of difference, if our electorate can vote in Lucifer Blair three times on the trot, anythings possible.To be fair ‘the difference’ in this case assuming he ever got a majority would/could go as far as changing the constitution to that of a non re negotiable total removal of sovereignty making us a state of a Federal Europe.With a clause making any future calls for secession an act of treason against the EU federal government.
Removal of all property rights,without compensation,regards housing.Thereby taking all the housing stock into state ownership and re allocated on the basis of each according to their needs.In which immigrant communities with larger families would obviously get priority for larger housing.
Removal of all conditions on immigration in which UK EU state ‘nationality’ would just be a formality of application in which just the claim of moving from a ‘less developed country’ would make it a priority application.
All road transport journeys subject to compulsory notification and permit to prove that it wasn’t a journey which could have been carried out by rail.
All private car use/ownership to be subject to government approval together with proof as to why public transport was not a viable option instead.
I could go on but it would get boring.
As I said it takes ( an ex in this case ) Socialist to know a zb Socialist when I see one.
Eloquently stated. 
Corbyn is an itch that the Labour membership has needed to scratch since the election of Blair, and with the succession of “non-socialist” leaders after him, dragging the party to the right. It has now got it’s wish and we will see the result in 2020. My thoughts are that Labour will either be elected with a working majority or annihilated like 1979 - nothing in-between.
There are two points which will have a bearing on the outcome; the attitude of the Labour right, the scheming that will prevail behind the scenes maybe even leading to a Fab Four SDP split, and the attitude of the media, fed by the spin doctors, and the money men behind them.
It’s going to be an interesting time in politics.
GOG47:
mas430:
Much the same as Robroy, believe it if he does manage to implement any of the old Labour values , if he does i will go for labour.
Cannot understand how any working class workers can even begin to think of voting for the slime tories…unless there wife told them too?Thing is, the tory philosophy is that if you work hard you can get somewhere in life by your own efforts,a policy of aspiration if you will which Blair copied whereas Corbyn harks back to a soviet style where the masses work for the good of the system which is fine as long as the system isn’t rewarding the feckless/workshy,I know which system I prefer
Hard work and ambition will only take you so far, after which who you know/parentage becomes much more important. Regardless of who’s in power, that’s the way it’s always been and that’s the way it’ll stay. And yes, that IS a big chip on my shoulder.
Of all the reply’s here I think Harry has got it right, We no longer produce sweet F/A in this country in the way of visible exports to any extent, no steel worth mentioning in comparison the the far east, the thousands of tons of railway lines I have taken out of Workington have all gone, during Thatchers coal strike I ashamedly participated in the import of foreign coal on the river Trent whereas before we were exporting it. Trains to be used on the new Thames link will not be built by a British company more than able to make them but by a German one. British built ships, at one time the best in the world are now built in the far east. It don’t matter who runs this new second class country, soon to be the new third world one, we are finished as a world leader. Corbyn or Cameron wont make a scrap of difference.
It’s strange how the red top papers have changed their tune now that Corbyn has been elected. For example the Daily Mirror was vehemently against Corbyn, saying don’t elect this man at all costs. But strangely after reading the Sunday Mirror, you’d think they thought he was the best thing since sliced bread. Even John Prescott’s piece adds a little support for the man
peirre:
It’s strange how the red top papers have changed their tune now that Corbyn has been elected. For example the Daily Mirror was vehemently against Corbyn, saying don’t elect this man at all costs. But strangely after reading the Sunday Mirror, you’d think they thought he was the best thing since sliced bread. Even John Prescott’s piece adds a little support for the man
It’s not strange, the Mirror will back him now as they back Labour, (but had been backing the official party line of not backing him) the others will be out to destroy him, which is evident by the headline in todays Sun.
I wonder which group of people have the weightiest scrotum right now… Those who would line up to be Tory lickcocks just because they think that “left wing” is some kind of disease, or those who’d vote for anything wearing a red rosette, including Vladimir Corbyn.
Who would we rather be friends with right now in the world? - The USA who can be relied upon to rope us into the occasional illegal foreign war, or daft trade sanctions not endorsed by the UN that hammer our own farmers - OR - get a bit closer to Russia and China, seeing as we get cheap loans & energy from them, and tell the yanks where they can get off with their 51st state insults, traitorous “revolutionary” war (calling tax enforcement “Tyranny”) or Naughty Atlantic Tossers Orgnaization membership which hasn’t done us much good in my lifetime at all… 
Nope, Carryfast has NOT nicked winnie’s computer… Winnie has merely experienced a swing to the left. 
peirre:
It’s strange how the red top papers have changed their tune now that Corbyn has been elected. For example the Daily Mirror was vehemently against Corbyn, saying don’t elect this man at all costs. But strangely after reading the Sunday Mirror, you’d think they thought he was the best thing since sliced bread. Even John Prescott’s piece adds a little support for the man
The Mirror is just a load of hypocritical bs that supported Corbyn in its Scottish Record version and Burnham south of the border. Or moaning about the reality of the Cons immigration policy v promises in terms of figures while at the same time joining the rest of the Socialist cause in calling on Cameron to allow ( a lot ) more in.All of which seems to fit the description of the socialist idea of ‘democracy’ IE create confusion and infiltrate.The fact is the Labour Party is actually just a Socialist rabble that hijacked and infiltrated the justified cause of improving the living standards of the working class within the Capitalist system.Corbyn’s leadership just being the latest version of that.
Winseer:
I wonder which group of people have the weightiest scrotum right now… Those who would line up to be Tory lickcocks just because they think that “left wing” is some kind of disease, or those who’d vote for anything wearing a red rosette, including Vladimir Corbyn.Who would we rather be friends with right now in the world? - The USA who can be relied upon to rope us into the occasional illegal foreign war, or daft trade sanctions not endorsed by the UN that hammer our own farmers - OR - get a bit closer to Russia and China, seeing as we get cheap loans & energy from them, and tell the yanks where they can get off with their 51st state insults, traitorous “revolutionary” war (calling tax enforcement “Tyranny”) or Naughty Atlantic Tossers Orgnaization membership which hasn’t done us much good in my lifetime at all…
Ironically America has been doing more for the interests of the Chinese Communist Party than anyone else ever since Nixon and Reagan opened ‘closer links and ties’.
Having said that it’s probably better to hope that the US will come to its senses in that regard than help Corbyn and his socialist hordes finish the job which Reagan started.
cant be arsed to read all the posts as I am sure this will be 17 pages of history.
for me at least it now gives people a choice between tory and labour not tory and tory in red.
don’t agree with his immigration and falklands speeches so far mind.
think he is a dinosaur trying to compete in modern times and will be eaten alive in an election, but at least he is true to his values which is more than most of the others are.
war1974:
for me at least it now gives people a choice between tory and labour not tory and tory in red.
Ironically UKIP are closer to the interests of the working class than so called ‘Labour’.
The problem in this country is the idea that ‘Labour’ has to be associated with Socialist.Probably as a diversion from what really worries the establishment of a real nationalist ‘Labour’ Party like the FN.UKIP just being nationalist lite in that regard.
Steve66:
PaulNowak:
By the time the next election comes around, this guy is going to be in his 70’s.Just can’t see it happening for him.
So?
There are still lorry drivers around in their 70s and I’ve known some who did odd days in their 80s.
Age isn’t an issue.
Or shouldn’t be.
I don’t doubt what you say. But to me it’s more like a fella of that age deciding that they wanted to start driving lorries. And then, should they pass, getting someone to take them on.
telegraph.co.uk/news/politic … g-tie.html
Refused to sing the national anthem at a memorial service. Dressed like a bit of a tramp aswell. I give him 3 months and he’ll be out on his ear. We should start a book on it.
Refused to sing the national anthem at a memorial service.
To be fair he’s just being true to his own principles as a committed Socialist.As such he can’t recognise any anthem except the Red Flag and the Internationale because he doesn’t recognise the idea of the nation state.That’s part of the freedom that the war was about.It’s then up to the electorate to reject his misguided ideology or accept it.
merc0447:
[Corbyn] Refused to sing the national anthem at a memorial service.
And so would I. The national anthem is about the state not one person.
Stanley Knife:
merc0447:
[Corbyn] Refused to sing the national anthem at a memorial service.And so would I. The national anthem is about the state not one person.
Also a lack of respect for the people who gave up their lives in the battle of britain and ww2 in general.
Looking forward to his first ‘prime ministers question time’ hope he don’t make an arse of himself.