globby 480:
Who gives a [zb] on WTD
you are one happy person
globby 480:
Who gives a [zb] on WTD
you are one happy person
ROG:
Try asking the CPS if they will be interested in the RTD WTD - you might be surprised by the answer
First the DFT and VOSA and now the CPS
tachograph:
ROG:
Try asking the CPS if they will be interested in the RTD WTD - you might be surprised by the answerFirst the DFT and VOSA and now the CPS
I am trying my best to get you to realise that NO AUTHORITY GIZES A ZB ABOUT IT but if you or others think otherwise then go ahead and ask them what they would actually do if they found that the rules have been breached
ROG:
tachograph:
ROG:
Try asking the CPS if they will be interested in the RTD WTD - you might be surprised by the answerFirst the DFT and VOSA and now the CPS
I am trying my best to get you to realise that NO AUTHORITY GIZES A ZB ABOUT IT but if you or others think otherwise then go ahead and ask them what they would actually do if they found that the rules have been breached
Rog doing text talk, never.
ROG:
tachograph:
ROG:
Try asking the CPS if they will be interested in the RTD WTD - you might be surprised by the answerFirst the DFT and VOSA and now the CPS
I am trying my best to get you to realise that NO AUTHORITY GIZES A ZB ABOUT IT but if you or others think otherwise then go ahead and ask them what they would actually do if they found that the rules have been breached
No ROG what you’re trying your best to do is to get drivers to ignore the WTD regardless of the consequences on their jobs.
ROG:
Try asking the CPS if they will be interested in the RTD WTD - you might be surprised by the answer
ROG, read this and digest it…
VOSA Guide for Operators
I’m certainley not versed with all the intracacies of it all but the basic jist of the RT WTD is to give employees certain rights and employers certain responabilities with regard to drivers hours, over and above EU tacho graph legislation. It will be a foolish driver or employer who ignores it on the basis of the advice of yours …that no one is enforcing it. There’s already been court cases over it and Public hearings into operators monitoring [or lack of] drivers hours. Non compliance is an offence. Working time and its right or wrongs tend to come up more at Tribunals rather than CPS prosecutions as you mention above.
To put it another way, you probably will not find anywhere that its illegal for a driver to operate a tail lift without training. But, if a driver operates one and gets it wrong and he’s had no training then his employer can be, and usually is, fined for failing to provide the training. Infact the HSE website is full of such reports.
You seem to have a bee in your bonnet over this RT WTD, and your simplistic advice to ignore it (probably based on the fact no one has been prosecuted at the roadside for a transgression of it) is frankly stupid. And to be frank, its not a position you are going to be facing anytime soon [ignoring or complying with it].
Mike-C:
Working time and its right or wrongs tend to come up more at Tribunals rather than CPS prosecutions as you mention above.
That would be when the employee takes the employer to task over hours issues so the question is - have any of those employers who lost been charged with any RTD offences as a result of losing ?