ITV elders debate

eagerbeaver:
Who is hilter?

Hint:- Read ya history books :astonished:

carryfast-yeti:
what are they saying about the immigration problem? are they going to stop us from being swamped?

no,thought not :frowning:

How dare you… Racist :open_mouth:
Edit. Joke^

I voted yes in the referendum. But I’m voting Tory this time round, say what u want but things are slowly improving, give the Tory’s another 5 years to save then vote labour in to put us back in much debt the cycle continues.

Also all this drama about the cuts and how the rich live etc, I’m not rich far from it but my life is bloody comfortable, you work the hours you earn a crust, if the pay is ■■■■ where you work move jobs. If you hit me with there is no jobs in my area Boohoo move areas. Its ■■■■■■■ simple really. If you tell me how its hard to relocate 50~ miles to find work what about those migrants who move country’s for work. And can you blame them really I’m pretty sure we would ■■■■ off elsewhere if the grass was greener in Poland for example

tommy t. I think like you, I’m sceptical about the two main parties. As I’ve posted beforehand, Cameron will claim credit for the past five years. A major drop in global oil prices might have lifted the weight off the road haulage industry and as a result passed on the benefits to the consumer. Don’t get me wrong. T Blair in my books was an a’ gram for ’ T BloodyLiaR. And of course nobody will forget MP’s expenses scam and the HSBC Taxes Switzerland number eh?
As for food banks. good point. they should’nt exist in the modern 21’st century. IMO, the complete panel of party leaders up there tonight struck me like ferile moggies with all tails tied & all bolting in their own directions… result… :question: who knows.

simon1958:

eagerbeaver:
Who is hilter?

Hint:- Read ya history books :astonished:

oi hilter Afold! :unamused: :open_mouth:

Adolf hitler maybe? :grimacing: brush up on your history/ spelling :grimacing:

Why is everybody so against benefit cuts? There are so many layabout wasters around they should bring back the workhouses. If Eastern Europeans do the work then so can the lazy buggers who claim benefits for a bad back but can quite easily push a loaded trolley around Sainsburys (via the tv and dvd section).
Doctors need to ask these claimants “can you sit in a chair and watch a film?” If the answer is “yes” then they can sit in an office and look at a computer screen.
I’m not poor but in this “austerity period” (haven’t noticed anything different) I’ve managed to find and chuck several jobs (so the “no jobs” excuse doesn’t wash with me), pay my mortgage without problems, get married at a fairly expensive hotel, wife’s had two kids and we have two holidays a year.

Did see the program and for my money the only genuine speakers were UKIP & SNP, not saying I agree with them 100% but they came accross as a little more real and less full of bull deposits.

Quite like to see a UKIP/SNP/CON trialition.

That said in my view the system is no longer fit for purpose, it is stuffed full of professional poloticians that have done school, uni and politics and have no grasp of real life or business/industry.

Time for an evolution.

eagerbeaver:
Who is hilter?

Wasnt he Hilmmers boss? :sunglasses:

tommy t:
Well every time that moron aka cameron opened his arse oops sorry mouth the bull shine was very strong, the man is a liar !!! if he gets in there will be major riots, the poor & sick have had enough of their persecution,they will rebel, not enough police to deal with what may happen, this coalition government, cough tory !! has cut their numbers, and if allowed to continue will make even more cuts, whilst they maintain their lavish lifestyles with snouts deep deep in that trough (expenses pot) claiming for everything that they can and being paid far too much for doing SFA they would not know a hard days graft if they fell over it, tossers, thats what that lot are , me i want the benefits system as it is , in fact it should be better, as it used to be, as you never know when you may need that safety net, cammer loon gets his way there wont be a safety net

Also the bankers (who the tories will look after) ok Blair the muppet may well of allowed them to take the pish, that caused the crash, but the knobs that have been in charge for the past 5 yrs have done what to change this ? have the banks re payed what they got from the bail out? the root cause of this recession ? no they haven’t, why is that ? maybe because they have made the poorest in this country pay, all those working people that have to rely on charity (food banks) in order to feed their families because of these minimum wage jobs they have created , jobs that don’t really exist , as they are also zero hrs contracts, so creating a false job economy, so if we are truthful about this, if employers had to pay a livable wage at the very least,and no zero hrs , (unless you agreed) how many who would instantly become unemployed , ? this government is nothing more than an insult to the working class be they unemployed or working they still are taking the pish

Well put and ain,t that the truth!!!

puntabrava:

Dipper_Dave:
Watchin it but gettin annoyed at Ed’s playin to the cameras, they are all doin it but Ed can’t seem to pull it off without lookin like a muppet.

Nigel is doin quite well so is our Dave and Nick, the SNP woman is comin across very well but the Welsh chick not so much.

Waitin for that unscripted question thats going to through one of em…

Never trust a woman with no lips.

And never trust a woman with lips☺

Muckaway:
Why is everybody so against benefit cuts? There are so many layabout wasters around they should bring back the workhouses. If Eastern Europeans do the work then so can the lazy buggers who claim benefits for a bad back but can quite easily push a loaded trolley around Sainsburys (via the tv and dvd section).
Doctors need to ask these claimants “can you sit in a chair and watch a film?” If the answer is “yes” then they can sit in an office and look at a computer screen.
I’m not poor but in this “austerity period” (haven’t noticed anything different) I’ve managed to find and chuck several jobs (so the “no jobs” excuse doesn’t wash with me), pay my mortgage without problems, get married at a fairly expensive hotel, wife’s had two kids and we have two holidays a year.

Unless you’ve got a forged steel income protection insurance policy I’d say be careful what you wish for.While yes that just confirms everything about the bs socialist system.In which case lets fold up the whole social security system and re pay the money that every one has paid into it and get rid of the NHS too.In addition to all the other pick and choose socialist solutions like social housing and state funded schools and cheap interest rates in which some people are obviously subsidising the lifestyles of others in whatever way.

In which case your obvious Thatcherite ideas,regarding forcing desperate people into low paid unsuited work to help minimise wage rates won’t look so good.IE the fact is if you want a 1960’s American type economic system then you’ll need a 1960’s American type wages and employment market to pay for it all.Not some bs Thatcherite mix and match of socialism and so called ‘Capitalism’. :bulb:

Muckaway, you really need to stop listening to the bullpoop spouted in bars and forums.
More money, much more is spent propping up families with tax credits etc because their wages are pathetic.
The Tories have been dripping this lie about wasters and layabouts for years now and it has been repeated so much that people accept it as true .
The truth is that as I state above more is spent giving hidden subsisdies to firms paying minimum wages etc.
A few years ago it was the benefit fraudsters that were the target, until it was proven that beneit fraud accounted for less than 0.7% of the total bill. When that was proved the likes of the Mail/Express had to stop their campaigns and shifted to the workshy and feckless.
The other thing to remember is that no matter how willing you are to work, if there are no jobs you can’t.
But of course Cameron doesn’t want you to realise that, hence the continued attack on the bottom of the pile whilst the top still get the cream.

I watched the debate. I didn’t think the woman chairing the debate could manage them, and I was right on that score.

I don’t think any of them stood out, just the normal load of lies and promises which is the norm at election time. I thought Cameron looked very uncomfortable most of the time. Farage was full of himself as usual. Couldn’t see the point of Plaid Cymru or the SNP being there.

Clegg and Miliband gave a good account of themselves, as did the Green Party lady, but they wont get far.

Apathy will have the biggest percentage on May 7th.

private-eye.co.uk/current-issue

Was UKIP the only party on that podium who said it as it was?

I struggled to find any other party leader doing so …

Del, I’ll support whoever lets me keep the most money. I don’t care if I sound selfish but I’m perfectly happy if tax cuts come my way, letting me keep more of the money I work for and if that means less money spent on foreign aid, less grants given to do up a village hall nobody but a bridge club uses then so be it.
Also “no jobs” is complete ■■■■■■■■ especially where I live. What there are, are too many people too lazy to get off their arses and find work, and doctors too keen to declare people unfit because their backs hurt or they have “issues interracting with people.” Just a load of excuses just like the parents with little ■■■■ kids who claim they have autism or some “syndrome” which permits them to behave badly.

del949:
Muckaway, you really need to stop listening to the bullpoop spouted in bars and forums.
More money, much more is spent propping up families with tax credits etc because their wages are pathetic.
The Tories have been dripping this lie about wasters and layabouts for years now and it has been repeated so much that people accept it as true .
The truth is that as I state above more is spent giving hidden subsisdies to firms paying minimum wages etc.
A few years ago it was the benefit fraudsters that were the target, until it was proven that beneit fraud accounted for less than 0.7% of the total bill. When that was proved the likes of the Mail/Express had to stop their campaigns and shifted to the workshy and feckless.
The other thing to remember is that no matter how willing you are to work, if there are no jobs you can’t.
But of course Cameron doesn’t want you to realise that, hence the continued attack on the bottom of the pile whilst the top still get the cream.

To be fair if Labour had ditched all the Socialist bs,which just tries to fix the ‘symptoms’ of low pay,when they had the chance in 1975,instead of just adding to the problems by putting in Callaghan.We wouldn’t have ended up in the situation of those taking advantage of state funded ( glass ) houses and/or relying on state provision for health care etc etc when it suits them,voting for Thatcher and calling others,often paying for their own housing,trying to maintain living standards in a modern industrialised economy,‘scroungers’.The fact is Muckaway’s ideas are just a reflection of where socialism inevitably leads to in that some always like to think they are more equal and worth more than others.IE a socialist provided stick for the Cons to beat the working class with by turning it against them using human nature. :imp: :unamused: :bulb:

Meanwhile ex pilots,like Tebbit,live comfortably on their decent wages,private pension,health care and/or income protection provision and/or get jobs as Con MP’s.IE the message to Minibrain is that its all about the wages stupid.In order to allow people to look after themselves.With no one else like Muckaway looking over their shoulder saying who can have what.Nor living on a high density council estate,reliant on rationed socialist state controlled income protection ‘benefits’,retirement provision and health care and we won’t fix that by staying in the EU,global free market economy and keeping an open door immigration policy. :bulb:

tommy t:
Well every time that moron aka cameron opened his arse oops sorry mouth the bull shine was very strong, the man is a liar !!! if he gets in there will be major riots, the poor & sick have had enough of their persecution,they will rebel, not enough police to deal with what may happen, this coalition government, cough tory !! has cut their numbers, and if allowed to continue will make even more cuts, whilst they maintain their lavish lifestyles with snouts deep deep in that trough (expenses pot) claiming for everything that they can and being paid far too much for doing SFA they would not know a hard days graft if they fell over it, tossers, thats what that lot are , me i want the benefits system as it is , in fact it should be better, as it used to be, as you never know when you may need that safety net, cammer loon gets his way there wont be a safety net

Also the bankers (who the tories will look after) ok Blair the muppet may well of allowed them to take the pish, that caused the crash, but the knobs that have been in charge for the past 5 yrs have done what to change this ? have the banks re payed what they got from the bail out? the root cause of this recession ? no they haven’t, why is that ? maybe because they have made the poorest in this country pay, all those working people that have to rely on charity (food banks) in order to feed their families because of these minimum wage jobs they have created , jobs that don’t really exist , as they are also zero hrs contracts, so creating a false job economy, so if we are truthful about this, if employers had to pay a livable wage at the very least,and no zero hrs , (unless you agreed) how many who would instantly become unemployed , ? this government is nothing more than an insult to the working class be they unemployed or working they still are taking the pish

THANK CHRIST you are in a majority of zilch, you talk absolute rubbish and you must be living on a different planet. you claim the banks caused the recession. Wrong, You keep on repeating the working classes the poor down trodden masses, please mate its about time you got out and had a look around, you really are living in the 50s . Zero hours contracts only employ a very small percentage of the total of workers, and in fact a very large proportion of people like the freedom of zero hours contracts. And if you were to analyse all of those so called down trodden people using food banks, you will find that most are just lazy vbs who do not want to work that’s the problem,.,.sit at home in front of there 52 inch TVs, playing there xboxs, and laughing up there sleeves at the rest of us…

yoyo5:
THANK CHRIST you are in a majority of zilch, you talk absolute rubbish and you must be living on a different planet. you claim the banks caused the recession. Wrong, You keep on repeating the working classes the poor down trodden masses, please mate its about time you got out and had a look around, you really are living in the 50s . Zero hours contracts only employ a very small percentage of the total of workers, and in fact a very large proportion of people like the freedom of zero hours contracts. And if you were to analyse all of those so called down trodden people using food banks, you will find that most are just lazy vbs who do not want to work that’s the problem,.,.sit at home in front of there 52 inch TVs, playing there xboxs, and laughing up there sleeves at the rest of us…

Great so if there are so few zero hours contract workers there will be no problem in getting rid of the idea.

While I’m guessing that you won’t have any problems assuming we ever get a decent Labour government in that consigns socialism in all its forms to the history books.I’m guessing that you’ll have no problem in not needing union support in asking for the required wage increase in order to pay for all the costs of the real Capitalist economy which we need.While the Cons will obviously be happy to pay back all the taxes and contributions owed in winding up the present socialist based so called ‘Capitalist’ system.

ROG:
Was UKIP the only party on that podium who said it as it was?

I struggled to find any other party leader doing so …

Yes until he got to all the socialist bollox that he can fix housing affordability by building loads more high density housing as usual in the South East just like all the rest.When anyone with any sense knows that trying to increase housing supply to bring housing costs within reach of under paid workers at best just makes high density estates where no one with any sense wants to live and ruins areas where they did.Or at worse in this case will also crash the housing market thereby breaking the banks.In this case he should have said if Labour the Scottish and the Greens want more housing and immigration then put it all in Scotland and in Labour constituencies. :unamused:

Does anyone think Milliband would make a resepctable PM? I cannot stand the way he “speakth” and have to switch channels (finger nails down a blackboard) when he’s on tv. So what chance when speaking to other world leaders?