It's not just one, there's hundreds of them!

Mike-C:
Don’t think there was a danger of someone getting killed on that sliproad though Jase ?

Not on that job no but lets just break the law and make ourselves criminals risking points and a fine. Seems legit.

I had about 50 cars do it once and block the hard shoulder, only trouble was, a boy was having a heart attack at the front but the Ambulance couldn’t get through to him. If you want to have that on your head then carry on. Imagine the press if that happened. I’m sure the Wombles will be blamed for not stopping it happening. In reality, the story was put on the news here, the drivers were blatantly breaking the law and I hope they all get points and a fine, the deserve it, if they get away with it this time, who says they wont do it again. It is illegal to drive the wrong way up a one way street and that’s what they were doing.

Own Account Driver:
My favourite useless womble incident was when there was a smash under the Weston Super Mare junction on the M5. Two wombles directed the traffic off but as no-one at the top everything went into WSM when as the accident was directly under the junction it could just have rejoined the motorway straight over the roundabout. Massive gridlock resulting in WSM because the Wombles only had one brain to share between them.

So let me get this straight, 2 TO’s had shut the motorway diverting traffic off due to a crash under a junction, the car drivers then, thousands of them, couldn’t see that the on slip was open and free to join but chose to drive into WSM any way. So that’s our fault is it? And how is that?. Did you want them to tell EVERYONE to rejoin? Did you want them at the on slip telling everyone to get on the Motorway even if they didn’t want to? Are they not able to rejoin themselves?

When we have to shut a junction, most people then rejoin on the on slip as we haven’t managed to get up there to close that yet and they all drive past a double red wicket do not pass matrix. Page 15 direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg … 191928.pdf

At a lane closure, once you have past me, do you need instruction to pull back into lane 1 again or are you capable enough to do it alone?

Really, this is a classic example of "I know best you ■■■■■■■ useless wombles but in fact, you hadn’t actually thought it through first. What a shock.

Left hand down!:
You’re in the wrong job. You knew what you were getting into so you have no reason to complain…

Because I want to try and prevent people dieing? Should I have been a flower arranger? What would you suggest? I did indeed know what I was getting into, I waited for a year to get this job.

Left hand down!:
You strike me as the sort of person who will move next to a busy 24hr airport or rail line that have been there since time began and then moan about the noise.

Sorry to disappoint you, I moan about ■■■■■■■ idiots that call themselves drivers who then crash and cause untold damage to families, millions in damage and life long pain due to their ineptitude and inability to drive a car properly. You clearly don’t understand that. I try and educate where I can, clearly not on here as you are all almost already set in your head what we are but there are many other people who are interested in learning.

Big Jase:

Left hand down!:
You’re in the wrong job. You knew what you were getting into so you have no reason to complain…

Because I want to try and prevent people dieing? Should I have been a flower arranger? What would you suggest? I did indeed know what I was getting into, I waited for a year to get this job.

Left hand down!:
You strike me as the sort of person who will move next to a busy 24hr airport or rail line that have been there since time began and then moan about the noise.

Sorry to disappoint you, I moan about [zb] idiots that call themselves drivers who then crash and cause untold damage to families, millions in damage and life long pain due to their ineptitude and inability to drive a car properly. You clearly don’t understand that. I try and educate where I can, clearly not on here as you are all almost already set in your head what we are but there are many other people who are interested in learning.

Like I’ve said 3 times now, you’re in the wrong job but you still can’t accept it. Get out before you have a breakdown. You’d make a “good” lorry driver actually - stereotypical moaner and stress-head working yourself up into a lather over complete non-events.

Big Jase:

mac12:
Big Jase because some drivers might spend 4 1/2 hours driving doesn’t mean they have only just set of if they have already been driving 4 hours then stop waiting for you for another 3 thats 7, do you think it’s right to go 7 hours without stopping for the toilet.

And what exactly would you like me to do with 4000 cars, trucks and buses unable to go forward that are stationary? Magic up refreshments and teleport them home? Like I said, if people drove a car/truck/bus sensibly, they wouldn’t crash and you could get rid of us and save your £1.60 a year for a Ginsters.

Very rare for me to eat a Ginsters, but as you have brought up eating is it possible for a HA officer to go past a services with a Greggs without stopping.

What i would like you to do with 4000 cars, trucks and buses is to clear the roads before it gets that many, on the M1 last week a car hit the barrier next to hard shoulder so HA closed all 4 lanes instead ofjust pulling it out of the way.

Big Jase:

Own Account Driver:
My favourite useless womble incident was when there was a smash under the Weston Super Mare junction on the M5. Two wombles directed the traffic off but as no-one at the top everything went into WSM when as the accident was directly under the junction it could just have rejoined the motorway straight over the roundabout. Massive gridlock resulting in WSM because the Wombles only had one brain to share between them.

So let me get this straight, 2 TO’s had shut the motorway diverting traffic off due to a crash under a junction, the car drivers then, thousands of them, couldn’t see that the on slip was open and free to join but chose to drive into WSM any way. So that’s our fault is it? And how is that?. Did you want them to tell EVERYONE to rejoin? Did you want them at the on slip telling everyone to get on the Motorway even if they didn’t want to? Are they not able to rejoin themselves?

When we have to shut a junction, most people then rejoin on the on slip as we haven’t managed to get up there to close that yet and they all drive past a double red wicket do not pass matrix. Page 15 direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg … 191928.pdf

At a lane closure, once you have past me, do you need instruction to pull back into lane 1 again or are you capable enough to do it alone?

Really, this is a classic example of "I know best you [zb] useless wombles but in fact, you hadn’t actually thought it through first. What a shock.

Take it your running mate had got the brain, to talk to some daft bint that can’t find the jack, whilst you typed this.

Left hand down!:

Big Jase:

Left hand down!:
You’re in the wrong job. You knew what you were getting into so you have no reason to complain…

Because I want to try and prevent people dieing? Should I have been a flower arranger? What would you suggest? I did indeed know what I was getting into, I waited for a year to get this job.

Left hand down!:
You strike me as the sort of person who will move next to a busy 24hr airport or rail line that have been there since time began and then moan about the noise.

Sorry to disappoint you, I moan about [zb] idiots that call themselves drivers who then crash and cause untold damage to families, millions in damage and life long pain due to their ineptitude and inability to drive a car properly. You clearly don’t understand that. I try and educate where I can, clearly not on here as you are all almost already set in your head what we are but there are many other people who are interested in learning.

Like I’ve said 3 times now, you’re in the wrong job but you still can’t accept it. Get out before you have a breakdown. You’d make a “good” lorry driver actually - stereotypical moaner and stress-head working yourself up into a lather over complete non-events.

That’s right, you have and it’s getting pretty boring now with someone who has no idea who I am telling me something completely incorrect but fill your boots.

Own Account Driver:

Big Jase:

Own Account Driver:
My favourite useless womble incident was when there was a smash under the Weston Super Mare junction on the M5. Two wombles directed the traffic off but as no-one at the top everything went into WSM when as the accident was directly under the junction it could just have rejoined the motorway straight over the roundabout. Massive gridlock resulting in WSM because the Wombles only had one brain to share between them.

So let me get this straight, 2 TO’s had shut the motorway diverting traffic off due to a crash under a junction, the car drivers then, thousands of them, couldn’t see that the on slip was open and free to join but chose to drive into WSM any way. So that’s our fault is it? And how is that?. Did you want them to tell EVERYONE to rejoin? Did you want them at the on slip telling everyone to get on the Motorway even if they didn’t want to? Are they not able to rejoin themselves?

When we have to shut a junction, most people then rejoin on the on slip as we haven’t managed to get up there to close that yet and they all drive past a double red wicket do not pass matrix. Page 15 direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg … 191928.pdf

At a lane closure, once you have past me, do you need instruction to pull back into lane 1 again or are you capable enough to do it alone?

Really, this is a classic example of "I know best you [zb] useless wombles but in fact, you hadn’t actually thought it through first. What a shock.

Take it your running mate had got the brain, to talk to some daft bint that can’t find the jack, whilst you typed this.

Wtf are you talking about. With amazing grammar too.

It appears that you have now realised you talk rubbish and were incapable of coming up with any other explanation for your ridiculous comments and thought you’d try and retaliate in caveman speak. Well done.

mac12:

Big Jase:

mac12:
Big Jase because some drivers might spend 4 1/2 hours driving doesn’t mean they have only just set of if they have already been driving 4 hours then stop waiting for you for another 3 thats 7, do you think it’s right to go 7 hours without stopping for the toilet.

And what exactly would you like me to do with 4000 cars, trucks and buses unable to go forward that are stationary? Magic up refreshments and teleport them home? Like I said, if people drove a car/truck/bus sensibly, they wouldn’t crash and you could get rid of us and save your £1.60 a year for a Ginsters.

Very rare for me to eat a Ginsters, but as you have brought up eating is it possible for a HA officer to go past a services with a Greggs without stopping.

What i would like you to do with 4000 cars, trucks and buses is to clear the roads before it gets that many, on the M1 last week a car hit the barrier next to hard shoulder so HA closed all 4 lanes instead ofjust pulling it out of the way.

Again, how do you propose we close the road before it gets that many? It can build up at a mile a minute and we can be 10 minutes away, can you work that out ok?

I very much doubt we just stopped all 4 lanes for fun, I can pull an artic now and you think we’d keep it shut and not move a car? You clearly have no idea what the job was, don’t know the facts and surmising

Big Jase:

Left hand down!:
You’re in the wrong job. You knew what you were getting into so you have no reason to complain…

Because I want to try and prevent people dieing? Should I have been a flower arranger? What would you suggest? I did indeed know what I was getting into, I waited for a year to get this job.

Left hand down!:
You strike me as the sort of person who will move next to a busy 24hr airport or rail line that have been there since time began and then moan about the noise.

Sorry to disappoint you, I moan about [zb] idiots that call themselves drivers who then crash and cause untold damage to families, millions in damage and life long pain due to their ineptitude and inability to drive a car properly. You clearly don’t understand that. I try and educate where I can, clearly not on here as you are all almost already set in your head what we are but there are many other people who are interested in learning.

I actually agree with you on this one,two cars hit each other about 4 weeks ago on the M4 at around 5 am when it was empty,i began to wonder how they could do that on an empty motorway with nothing around them

Thank you truckman. I love my family very much, as I’m sure all of you do. Is it too much to ask to try and get people to take a bit of responsibility for their driving, there are many stories on here about bad drivers so you all know it happens. It’s our job to clear it up and we accept that but it would be so so easy to just drive with care. I’m human too.

There was a crash a while ago I heard about on the news. 5 people in a van, they were all asleep including the driver and hit a stationary truck that had broken down. 2 died instantly, 2 died later and the driver survived. The road was shut for hours to get the families of the dead some closure. The driver was A DRIVER and was responsible. 4 families ruined, all because he fell asleep at the wheel.

Am I wrong for trying to educate? Many seem to think so by throwing muck around at me and my colleagues. Fair?

Heartwarming story of loads of people actually using a bit of initiative. Brilliant!
The authorities are oblivious to the suffering of the many old people and indeed mothers and toddlers stuck in the queue for hours on end, while they all try and out do each other with a “who looks the most important competition”, with freshly ironed Hi-Vizs.

At least were getting paid to be there but I cant imagine how an older person or a hassled mother copes for hours on end while these guys waffle about wondering what to do next whilst covering their arses re- health and safety.

A look at the continental way might help.

Crash. No-one hurt. Shift vehicles.

The suggestion that if everybody drove properly there would be no accidents and the problem would not arise is about a crass a statement as could be made and could only come from a certain brainwashed clone.

I love my family very much, as I’m sure all of you do. [/i] Yeah, they`re ok I suppose but not as nice as mine! :smiley:

Big Jase:

Mike-C:
Don’t think there was a danger of someone getting killed on that sliproad though Jase ?

Not on that job no but lets just break the law and make ourselves criminals risking points and a fine. Seems legit.

Well, here’s the thing. Its not just a case of “lets break the law”. These where exceptional circumstances, and yes i’d say being stuck stationary in a queue with no sign of going anywhere for na few hours is “exceptional circumstances”. We’re getting closer to the way your "civil service " mind has been trained to work though…

Big Jase:
I had about 50 cars do it once and block the hard shoulder, only trouble was, a boy was having a heart attack at the front but the Ambulance couldn’t get through to him. If you want to have that on your head then carry on. Imagine the press if that happened. I’m sure the Wombles will be blamed for not stopping it happening.

Ah, the heartstrings jobby. Doesn’t wash with me i’m afraid. You see when an ambulance or police is up your arse when you’re stationary at maybe a set of red lights they will expect you to pull forward through them if needs be to let them through. The law says you shouldn’t, but people do. I suspect if its for people to help "your colleagues " out you’d be fine with this. Personally i don’t move. For fear of criminalisation you see. People have been prosecuted for it.

Big Jase:
In reality, the story was put on the news here, the drivers were blatantly breaking the law and I hope they all get points and a fine, the deserve it, if they get away with it this time, who says they wont do it again. It is illegal to drive the wrong way up a one way street and that’s what they were doing.

The people where all doing what other people where doing. They where not “blatantly” breaking the law. They where helping themselves out of a bad situation after a long time without (god forbid) civil intervention. This phenomenon of people following suit of others is well documented is the Asch experiments on human nature. The famous and funny one is the elevator experiment where everyone faces the wall. But the serious side to it is that these people are not out to make a ■■■■ of themselves, they are conforming to what everyone else does, its human nature. You can’t change it, learn to understand it and work with it. It may help you in your career .
You remind me of the guy i seen at a rock concert one time getting squashed at the front and he was shouting "will you all stop pushing " !!! :laughing: :laughing:

Criminals !! And you hope they get points and a fine ? You couldnt make it up.

cheekymonkey:
Heartwarming story of loads of people actually using a bit of initiative. Brilliant!
The authorities are oblivious to the suffering of the many old people and indeed mothers and toddlers stuck in the queue for hours on end, while they all try and out do each other with a “who looks the most important competition”, with freshly ironed Hi-Vizs.

At least were getting paid to be there but I cant imagine how an older person or a hassled mother copes for hours on end while these guys waffle about wondering what to do next whilst covering their arses re- health and safety.

A look at the continental way might help.

Crash. No-one hurt. Shift vehicles.

The suggestion that if everybody drove properly there would be no accidents and the problem would not arise is about a crass a statement as could be made and could only come from a certain brainwashed clone.

I love my family very much, as I’m sure all of you do. [/i] Yeah, they`re ok I suppose but not as nice as mine! :smiley:

Unbelievable just how I’ll informed you are. I can’t believe you really think the Police know how to iron.

Seriously though, you clearly know nothing sat in your cab second guessing what we/the Police are doing on any given incident. And to say no one hurt, shift the cars, that is EXACTLY what we do daily. Is it you want to make yourself look good to all your trucker pals by discrediting me and my colleagues? You see, no one ever answered all the questions I asked about why you do what you do, because no one could.

It also slightly concerns me that you seem to think it’s ok to crash, that’s more worrying than my “crass” comment. Clone? Nope. Brainwashed? Not at all.

Mike C, I whizzed through all the garbage about being sat still for a few hours, wow, must be tough to sit still. I got to the bit about taking it upon yourself to turn around and drive the wrong way up a one way street in extreme circumstances like driving past IED’s or living in the Ukraine, oh hang on, you mean sitting in a car for a few hours, the criminal bit yes, that’s it, you drive up a one way street the wrong way, yes, that’s illegal, it’s a crime, therefore you are a criminal.

Big Jase:
Mike C, I whizzed through all the garbage about being sat still for a few hours, wow, must be tough to sit still. I got to the bit about taking it upon yourself to turn around and drive the wrong way up a one way street in extreme circumstances like driving past IED’s or living in the Ukraine, oh hang on, you mean sitting in a car for a few hours, the criminal bit yes, that’s it, you drive up a one way street the wrong way, yes, that’s illegal, it’s a crime, therefore you are a criminal.

This just sums up the contempt with which the “authorities” view the British traveller-put up and shut up while they close roads for hours with interminable “accident investigation” and anybody who complains is given the old “well what if it was your wife and kids b/s”.What the ■■■■ is wrong with taking a few pics logging all vehicle positions on gps,get some witness details to be interviewed later and getting everybody moving

Big Jase:
Mike C, I whizzed through all the garbage

Sure you did, it was all ■■■■■■■■. I made it up just for an argument with you. You’re right, they’re all criminals. ALL of them. I just wish we had more coppers like you. Keep up the good work in keeping the roadways safe and flowing.

Big Jase:

Own Account Driver:

Big Jase:

Own Account Driver:
My favourite useless womble incident was when there was a smash under the Weston Super Mare junction on the M5. Two wombles directed the traffic off but as no-one at the top everything went into WSM when as the accident was directly under the junction it could just have rejoined the motorway straight over the roundabout. Massive gridlock resulting in WSM because the Wombles only had one brain to share between them.

So let me get this straight, 2 TO’s had shut the motorway diverting traffic off due to a crash under a junction, the car drivers then, thousands of them, couldn’t see that the on slip was open and free to join but chose to drive into WSM any way. So that’s our fault is it? And how is that?. Did you want them to tell EVERYONE to rejoin? Did you want them at the on slip telling everyone to get on the Motorway even if they didn’t want to? Are they not able to rejoin themselves?

When we have to shut a junction, most people then rejoin on the on slip as we haven’t managed to get up there to close that yet and they all drive past a double red wicket do not pass matrix. Page 15 direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg … 191928.pdf

At a lane closure, once you have past me, do you need instruction to pull back into lane 1 again or are you capable enough to do it alone?

Really, this is a classic example of "I know best you [zb] useless wombles but in fact, you hadn’t actually thought it through first. What a shock.

Take it your running mate had got the brain, to talk to some daft bint that can’t find the jack, whilst you typed this.

Wtf are you talking about. With amazing grammar too.

It appears that you have now realised you talk rubbish and were incapable of coming up with any other explanation for your ridiculous comments and thought you’d try and retaliate in caveman speak. Well done.

Sorry, from my observation, of their behaviour, I assumed Traffic Wombles operating in pairs had a maximum of one brain to share between them.