its wrong but you cant blame them
moomooland:
Ok then tell Big Jessy me what you think is a reasonable time to be sat in your vehicle trapped on the motorway with your family and kids with nothing to eat, drink, toilet etc. 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 or 10 hours■■?
Whats the maximum you will spend driving a truck legally? 4 1/2 hours? I don’t really think 2 to 3 hours is too bad. As a responsible driver with kids or alone, you should have food, drink and a coat with you and lets be honest, that’s what we recommend drivers do in our winter campaign and it isn’t a bad idea to carry anyway. So when we have a huge incident and attempt to stop people joining the queue such as putting a STOP up on gantries or onslip signs but you decide you know best and ignore them, you sit in a queue. That queue might be as much as 10 miles long. If the road is completely blocked, how long do you think it takes to put in place a full closure at the previous junction? This has to happen before we start sending people the wrong way up a motorway. Even when I have my cones out closing a road, people still drive either through, around or over my cones as they don’t seem to think it applies to them so you want us to turn traffic around without a full road closure and have the potential of some idiot driving at you?
So once we have 800, 60, 400, 200, yard signs out, 600 metres of cones, signs and lights, after about 2 hours, not forgetting we don’t just have a TM truck and 3 guys sat around on the off chance, we then start turning traffic from the rear. We have 3 ways of doing this depending on the junction length and roundabout design. So we start clearing lane 3 of cars as they are easy to turn, then we have to turn the cars towing trailers and caravans who’s drivers have no knowledge that they are not allowed in lane 3, then we turn around the odd truck in lane 2, then we struggle turning a rigid and drag. Then a few artic drivers who can’t fathom that a 50 foot truck and trailer can turn on the motorway.
How long do you think it takes to get through 100 metres? A car is 5 metres, a truck 15 metres so roughly 7 trucks, 10 caravans, maybe 30 cars, then we have to take them the potential 8 miles back up lane 3, but not at 70, only 20. So you tell me since your’e such an expert, how long to clear 10 miles of traffic, 16 thousand metres!
moomooland:
After 6 hours i bet everyone one on here would in desperation gone up that slip road after being trapped like animals in a pen.
Desperation? They are hardly sat in a container with no food or light for 18 hours are they.
moomooland:
And yes i do blame you for not taking control of the situation
How do you know we weren’t?
moomooland:
i have travelled and lived on the motorways on a daily basis for the last 39 years and we never had these problems when the police were in control of the highways your lot are just the great pretenders.
Interesting, many people feel we are far better than the Police ever were as they have different priorities than we do, luckilly for me, I too have been travelling all over the UK road and Europe for 25 years so I guess I no F all about it.
moomooland:
God help us all when you get authority to pull vehicles over you will be like a dog with two dicks all over the place.
Really? Grow up
rob22888:
They are the same people that would be trying to cut down the hard shoulder given the chance. It’s a pity they always seem to get away with it.Maybe i’m just paying more attention to the news, but these sort of incidents and huge delays seem to be becoming more and more common.
Poor driving standards and just far too many vehicles on the road.
agree with the part about poor driving standards and too many vehicles on the road
if its denton then I reckon jack frost should have been transferred to traffic,he allways clears his murders up within an hour and a half on telly,might have done the same for the trapped traffic
Big Jase:
I don’t really think 2 to 3 hours is too bad. As a responsible driver with kids or alone, you should have food, drink and a coat.
Well that just about sums up your mentality!!! 
On an urban motorway such as the M60/67 do you really think people take food and drink etc when only nipping a couple of junctions into town.
Get real for Christ sake
moomooland:
Big Jase:
I don’t really think 2 to 3 hours is too bad. As a responsible driver with kids or alone, you should have food, drink and a coat.Well that just about sums up your mentality!!!
On an urban motorway such as the M60/67 do you really think people take food and drink etc when only nipping a couple of junctions into town.
Get real for Christ sake
The guy is an absolute bell end. He blames everyone but himself every time the HA come in for some fully justified fire. See how he blames “people for crashing”, but hold on a moment, that’s his ■■■■■■■ job to sort out the aftermath of any incidents and get the roads flowing again but apparently that’s too much like hard work for him and instead he prefers to spend that time whinging on internet forums about how it’s everyone’s fault. I don’t even know why he’s even doing that ■■■■■■■ job as it’s clear he hates it. Let’s be honest, it’s a job that any thick ■■■■ can do and is generally staffed by life’s failures, which goes a long way to explain the content of most of his posts.
Big Jase because some drivers might spend 4 1/2 hours driving doesn’t mean they have only just set of if they have already been driving 4 hours then stop waiting for you for another 3 thats 7, do you think it’s right to go 7 hours without stopping for the toilet.
So once we have 800, 60, 400, 200, yard signs out, 600 metres of cones, signs and lights, after about 2 hours, not forgetting we don’t just have a TM truck and 3 guys sat around on the off chance, we then start turning traffic from the rear. We have 3 ways of doing this depending on the junction length and roundabout design. So we start clearing lane 3 of cars as they are easy to turn, then we have to turn the cars towing trailers and caravans who’s drivers have no knowledge that they are not allowed in lane 3, then we turn around the odd truck in lane 2, then we struggle turning a rigid and drag. Then a few artic drivers who can’t fathom that a 50 foot truck and trailer can turn on the motorway.
what do you need all this for, use the same tactics you do when you clear debris out the road, send a car out block the traffic at the back and turn it all around then use another car at the junction behind to divert traffic off that junction, it aint rocket science, no wonder the motorways are always ■■■■■■■ use some common sense man
Plugster:
So once we have 800, 60, 400, 200, yard signs out, 600 metres of cones, signs and lights, after about 2 hours, not forgetting we don’t just have a TM truck and 3 guys sat around on the off chance, we then start turning traffic from the rear. We have 3 ways of doing this depending on the junction length and roundabout design. So we start clearing lane 3 of cars as they are easy to turn, then we have to turn the cars towing trailers and caravans who’s drivers have no knowledge that they are not allowed in lane 3, then we turn around the odd truck in lane 2, then we struggle turning a rigid and drag. Then a few artic drivers who can’t fathom that a 50 foot truck and trailer can turn on the motorway.what do you need all this for, use the same tactics you do when you clear debris out the road, send a car out block the traffic at the back and turn it all around then use another car at the junction behind to divert traffic off that junction, it aint rocket science, no wonder the motorways are always [zb], use some common sense man
Oh wow, yeah, I guess after the first motorway opened and with all the Police tactics and planning, ACPO discussions and Government involvement, no one ever thought of that, I’ll put that through right away as a valid suggestion. Isn’t that what I said though? Stop the traffic, make it exit the junction? But like I also said, people believe it or not, seeing 20 cones, 8 signs including a no entry, 9 lights, a car and 2 people stood in the road STILL don’t think that that applies to them and drives over our cones storming down a closed motorway with either stationary traffic or traffic driving the wrong way. Yeah, that makes great sense to have traffic going down at 70 and back up at 20. Sterling effort. I’d suggest some of your own medicine.
mac12:
Big Jase because some drivers might spend 4 1/2 hours driving doesn’t mean they have only just set of if they have already been driving 4 hours then stop waiting for you for another 3 thats 7, do you think it’s right to go 7 hours without stopping for the toilet.
And what exactly would you like me to do with 4000 cars, trucks and buses unable to go forward that are stationary? Magic up refreshments and teleport them home? Like I said, if people drove a car/truck/bus sensibly, they wouldn’t crash and you could get rid of us and save your £1.60 a year for a Ginsters.
Left hand down!:
The guy is an absolute bell end. He blames everyone but himself every time the HA come in for some fully justified fire. See how he blames “people for crashing”,
Well I didn’t ask them to did I??
Left hand down!:
but hold on a moment, that’s his [zb] job to sort out the aftermath of any incidents and get the roads flowing again
And I do but wouldn’t it be a whole lot easier if you managed to get to your destination by concentrating and being courteous and not crashing? No?
Left hand down!:
whinging
Pot Kettle, I’ve been caught doing 50 in a 40, what can I do to get off this blatent piece of law breaking,I got stopped by DVSA for having no number plate, bloody Gastapo,Why oh why do car drivers do A, B and C,
Left hand down!:
I don’t even know why he’s even doing that [zb] job as it’s clear he hates it.
I love it actually, I just find it hard to understand why people go about killing each other daily and destroying other peoples lives, To hard to understand is it??
Left hand down!:
Let’s be honest, it’s a job that any thick [zb] can do and is generally staffed by life’s failures,
Failed applicant perhaps, never got past the name spelling? You’d be surprised just how difficult getting into this job is.
Anyway, keep it up, the swear word correcter smoking. Keep throwing your insults like a monkey throws its doo doo, very mature. 
truckman020:
its wrong but you cant blame them
+1
Big Jase:
Perhaps if the people didn’t crash in the first place,.
+2
truckman020:
if its denton then I reckon jack frost should have been transferred to traffic,he allways clears his murders up within an hour and a half on telly,might have done the same for the trapped traffic
I wish I could LIKE comments. You’d be one.
Makes me laugh, the hang 'em and flog 'em brigade have now found out they where there for hours 
I’d of turned around with everyone else and got off, if its been closed that long then you’re hardly gonna suprise anyone.
Big Jase:
Left hand down!:
The guy is an absolute bell end. He blames everyone but himself every time the HA come in for some fully justified fire. See how he blames “people for crashing”,Well I didn’t ask them to did I??
Left hand down!:
but hold on a moment, that’s his [zb] job to sort out the aftermath of any incidents and get the roads flowing againAnd I do but wouldn’t it be a whole lot easier if you managed to get to your destination by concentrating and being courteous and not crashing? No?
You still don’t get it do you? *** THAT IS YOUR JOB ***
If everyone drove perfect in your never-going-to-happen-in-a-million-years-idealistic-dreamworld then you wouldn’t even be required, but they don’t and so you are. Either deal with it and go or work somewhere else. You took the job on knowing what was involved from the start so your constant whining about how no-one is a driving God like yourself simply doesn’t cut it. In short, if you can’t stand the heat… 
Well I’m sorry for having an opinion that I wish people could leave in the morning and know they were going home. I’ll go and sit in a dark corner with my thumb up my ■■■ for ever in your debt.
I think I realise it’s my job, doesn’t stop me wishing for no deaths though does it? Give me strength.
Don’t think there was a danger of someone getting killed on that sliproad though Jase ?
I’d have gone up that slip road without a moments hesitation and the more cars that do it the safer it is as the less likely traffic will join. Have driven up the embankment before now if I’m in a 4x4.
My favourite useless womble incident was when there was a smash under the Weston Super Mare junction on the M5. Two wombles directed the traffic off but as no-one at the top everything went into WSM when as the accident was directly under the junction it could just have rejoined the motorway straight over the roundabout. Massive gridlock resulting in WSM because the Wombles only had one brain to share between them.
Big Jase:
Well I’m sorry for having an opinion that I wish people could leave in the morning and know they were going home. I’ll go and sit in a dark corner with my thumb up my ■■■ for ever in your debt.I think I realise it’s my job, doesn’t stop me wishing for no deaths though does it? Give me strength.
You’re in the wrong job. You knew what you were getting into so you have no reason to complain.
You strike me as the sort of person who will move next to a busy 24hr airport or rail line that have been there since time began and then moan about the noise.
We live next to a school (since before it was built). Well a Mr and Mrs retired civil servant move in two doors down a year ago. The Headteacher told my missus that Mr retired civil servant rings up just about every day to complain about the noise the kids are making in the playground. I do seriously think these people deliberately look to move somewhere with something to complain about. I mean WTF, what on earth did you expect next to a school.
Annoying thing is I probably can’t take a wagon home for lunch without risking a complaint.