ady1:
but as i say,if theydeem you not fit to drive on the road how can you be fit to drive in a busy transport yard,he normally works the wash,so a few hours doing reversing into a few parking slots,pick up a tri is enough training,
Judging by the number of knobs I’ve witnessed in RDCs completely unable to hit a loading bay regardless of having loads of room and big white lines to guide you, many of those who do have licences to drive on the road don’t have much room to talk.
if the unlicencsed driver is insured under the company insurance then fine let him move wat he wants and if he hits you and u live claim then thump him for injuring you if u dont get hit no harm done and if he is close to hitting you call him a t**t for doing so and move on
personally if it was my company i wouldnt let anyone move anything without a licence just to be on safe side
Just for the Knobs that don’t understand - whenever you go on to someones site, whether you work for them or just wander in off the street (and probablyeven if you are a burglar), you are covered by their COMPULSORY insurance.
If you throw yourself in front of a FLT then you would have a claim - OK it would likely be reduced by 90% because you failed to take proper care and the FLT driver would have a counter claim against you for giving him a heart attack - but the owners insurers (and yours - I hope you have some…) would take care of it.
If you are all high vizzed up and inside the pedestrian area and get run over by whoever’s turn it is to be village idiot that day, then you will get a payout accordingly.
Rob K:
waynedl:
Sometimes I wonder how some people on here have made it to adulthood.He’s a [zb] Stobart driver - what do you expect? None of them [zb] can think for themselves, that’s why they work there so they can be nannied 24/7 and have their arses wiped for them. Just the sort of BS I’d have expected from Baby1.
which show whatr a hypocrite you are billy,one minute your on about cutting the job up,the nextn your all for doing 3 jobs for 3k less than a shunter got paid for doing one ,make your zbing mind up
Conor:
ady1:
but as i say,if theydeem you not fit to drive on the road how can you be fit to drive in a busy transport yard,he normally works the wash,so a few hours doing reversing into a few parking slots,pick up a tri is enough training,Judging by the number of knobs I’ve witnessed in RDCs completely unable to hit a loading bay regardless of having loads of room and big white lines to guide you, many of those who do have licences to drive on the road don’t have much room to talk.
whats hitting a bay in one got to do with being medically FIT to drive 
,hes not allowed to drive because of problems with his legs ,but hes fit to drive round a yard ,makes sense
MrHappy:
In fact, its people like you that are making this job such a joy these days. Hardly a week goes by without some H+S pleb poking their nose into things just to justify their job, why can’t you just let the bloke earn his dough? Most of the posters on here have got it bang on, if you can’t keep out of the way of an artic in the yard, then maybe its you thats the problem.And as for all this, “I’d like to be a grandfather” etc, so would I, but there’s more chance of me dying of high blood pressure from reading posts like this than there is of getting flattened by a lorry reversing round the yard.
Calm down dear, go and put your hi-viz on
quite right,i want the job doing right,i dont work for a back street cowboy outfit and thats the way id like it to stay
ady1:
[whats hitting a bay in one got to do with being medically FIT to drive
meaning he´s not allowed to drive on public roads, probably because he cannot remain seated for any length of time may be ?
God man have you not got anything better to do with your life than whine on for days about something that basically has sod all to do with you, do try to widen your horizons and get some kind of a life please for your own sake
Trev_H:
Is this just sour grapes, is it looking like he’ll make a better driver than yourself?
he may well do,but as ive said before hes not allowed to train,drive on the road as they deem him not medically fit to do so,so were not likely to find out are we.
n.b in future read the whole thread before commenting then you wont look a ■■■ will you
Coffeeholic:
ady1:
MrHappy:
Don’t worry about iti do,because if i or anyone gets injured i believe they should get what there entitled to,
It’s beginning to sound like you want to get run over, so you will be able to complain about him not having a not required licence and if you don’t get a pay out you can say I told you so.
Let’s hope he nails you next time you’re in there so we don’t have to wait too long to find out what happens. The drama and suspense is too much.
Just on a normal work day you will encounter far more unlicensed drivers than just meeting this bloke, who isn’t actually unlicensed, whenever you are in that yard. Some estimates put the number of unlicensed drivers on UK roads at well over the 1,000,000 mark and while this bloke will be covered by insurance they won’t be. It is around 1 in 20 drivers who are not licensed so next time you are in a traffic jam count 40 vehicles and the chances are you will be that close to 2 unlicensed drivers and there is a far higher chance of you having an accident with one of them, and at greater speed, that with this bloke…
So again, if this is a major concern of yours you really have to give up using the roads otherwise you might not make it to Grandfather.
hes not on the roads is he,the drivers on the roads have licenses,are insured so im fine out there,but in the yard im not so sure
mark h:
The Sarge:
MrHappy:
In fact, its people like you that are making this job such a joy these days. Hardly a week goes by without some H+S pleb poking their nose into things just to justify their job, why can’t you just let the bloke earn his dough? Most of the posters on here have got it bang on, if you can’t keep out of the way of an artic in the yard, then maybe its you thats the problem.And as for all this, “I’d like to be a grandfather” etc, so would I, but there’s more chance of me dying of high blood pressure from reading posts like this than there is of getting flattened by a lorry reversing round the yard.
Calm down dear, go and put your hi-viz on
^+1[/quwell dont read it then,i havent forced you to read it or comment,so any blood pressure issues you may have are down to your self
+2 why dont you worry about your own job an earning your own money, instead of worryin about wa he is doing ■■
end of the day your company no he hasnt got a license and on private land he doesnt need 1 as said in previous posts, the company has insurance as a whole so whats the big problem ? your insured and so is the other guy along with the rest of the employees so stop cryin over something that is goin to be a rare thing in a yard, lets be honest he isnt goin to be sat on the limiter is he ? if you cant move away from a moving truck then you need help
and breathe
Vascoingles:
Trev_H:
Is this just sour grapes, is it looking like he’ll make a better driver than yourself?well if he is spending so much time worrying about what someone else is doing instead of concentrating on his own job this could always be a possibility
which is my point,i want to be able to concentrate on doing my job,not to have to keep looking over my shoulder every 2 mins,which was what i did when we had a proper shunter
ady1:
hes not on the roads is he,the drivers on the roads have licenses,are insured so im fine out there,but in the yard im not so sure
You didn’t read it properly, there are over one million drivers on UK roads without licences, which means also without insurance. It’s about 1 in 20 drivers and you are sharing the roads with these people. Count 20 cars passing you or you are passing next time you are out on the road and the likely hood is one of them will not have a licence and not be insured. Now how many vehicles do you think you encounter in one day on the road? It will be a lot and 5% of them don’t have a licence or insurance, the exact concerns you have with this guy. In fact he is insured so you have more to worry about on the road. than in the yard.
ady1:
Rob K:
waynedl:
Sometimes I wonder how some people on here have made it to adulthood.He’s a [zb] Stobart driver - what do you expect? None of them [zb] can think for themselves, that’s why they work there so they can be nannied 24/7 and have their arses wiped for them. Just the sort of BS I’d have expected from Baby1.
which show whatr a hypocrite you are billy,one minute your on about cutting the job up,the nextn your all for doing 3 jobs for 3k less than a shunter got paid for doing one ,make your zbing mind up
Please direct me to my post where I said that. I think as usual you are making [zb] up as you go along. 
MADBAZ:
Good luck to the lad, in a few years we may well be arguing on here about whether we want to drive for HIS company or not, there might even be a tv series!
good luck to the lad 
,hes 50 if hes a day,he freely admits hes doing it for the MONEY,no intrest in trucks what so ever,as for working for him hes offered to do the job for 3k less than the shunter got,which is why theyve snapped his hand off, do youd think someone who offers to do the same job for 3k less than the going rate would make a good buisness man,i dont
Saratoga:
I have seen plenty of videos on YouTube of kids manoeuvring trucks. One lad couldn’t even sit down but managed to reverse a 44t artic into a narrow space better than I’ve seen some professional drivers do it!The children clearly don’t have drivers licences but they still do it. It probably started out with supervision as most learn but soon moved to not needing that as they got on with it.
If you are unsure of the yard drivers driving skills the either speak to a manager or just try and stay out of his way. Go ‘by the book’ and make sure that manoeuvring vehicles can see you before you walk around them and all that stuff. You know, try and stay alive
hes not a kid,he at least 50
Is this [zb] for real?
ady1:
good luck to the lad
Erm, that’s me pretty much…
I came to trucks because I was a bus / coach driver, decided I enjoyed being out (away from bosses) but didn’t like people, so trucks are like coaches but without people … a + b = me now.
Don’t get me wrong, I make it my business to keep upto date with what’s going on in the industry (same as I did in IT when I was a network engineer and in coaches when I was a coach driver, but not in street cleaning when I swept the streets) and like a nice truck etc, but I’d rather drive an old DAF CF or ERF ECX or something for more money than that new actross for less money.
BUT, I’d rather have a really easy job for less money than get filthy, wet, injured / tired / stressed for more money. I’m not lazy and do what I have to do to pay the bills, but I’d rather have it nice and cushty if I’m honest.
Rikki-UK:
My first ever job in haulage was a yard boy… back then its was the way into haulage, and at 16 with not a clue how to drive I used to wash trucks, steam clean, strip tilts , grease wagons and trailers load up trailers. all involved me driving them around the yard, and I learnt and didnt kill anyone.That was the way we learnt not to be a steering wheel attendant but to be a driver,
Given the choice between someone who has shunted trailers on and off tight docks, learnt to reverse in a real environment rather than a government designed excercise, who has done it day in and day out… Who do I feel is more experienced? Mr A who has just pased his test in a short draw bar outfit having never touched an artic, or matey boy Mr B who has shunted them trucks and trailers in the real world?
You choose who you feel more confident in…
there is something to be said for the old fashioned way of getting into this business, and to my mind the way this young fella is going at it is much preferable
hes 50,if he wanted to drive trucks he would of learned years ago,hes doing it to get himself a couple of k more than he gets now,hec said hed offered to do the job for 3 k less than the bloke who did it,thats why theyve put shunter back on road and he may get job,not because they hope hell become a good driver,or because he wants to become one,its purely money.
if it was a young kid desperate to get into the game,yes youve a point,but its not,id have more respect if he said ill do the job for the proper rate,but 3k less,stupid,less hope a pole dont undercut the poor 50 yr old kid
The Sarge:
■■■■! Trust Rikki to turn up and be all sensible
hes not,hes talking about 50 yr olds as if there spotty teenagers
ady1:
Rikki-UK:
My first ever job in haulage was a yard boy… back then its was the way into haulage, and at 16 with not a clue how to drive I used to wash trucks, steam clean, strip tilts , grease wagons and trailers load up trailers. all involved me driving them around the yard, and I learnt and didnt kill anyone.That was the way we learnt not to be a steering wheel attendant but to be a driver,
Given the choice between someone who has shunted trailers on and off tight docks, learnt to reverse in a real environment rather than a government designed excercise, who has done it day in and day out… Who do I feel is more experienced? Mr A who has just pased his test in a short draw bar outfit having never touched an artic, or matey boy Mr B who has shunted them trucks and trailers in the real world?
You choose who you feel more confident in…
hes 50,if he wanted to drive trucks he would of learned years ago,hes doing it to get himself a couple of k more than he gets now,hec said hed offered to do the job for 3 k less than the bloke who did it,thats why theyve put shunter back on road and he may get job,not because they hope hell become a good driver,or because he wants to become one,its purely money.
Ady… isn’t that why you go to work? That’s certainly why I go to work.
As I said to 1 company as I was leaving due to them making me miss a concert (which was pre-booked, time off booked etc, yet the planners screwed up) “The ONLY reason I come here everyday is to pay for things like that concert and other stuff that I like to do OUTSIDE work”
