thetastytrucker:
At 21, the National Minimum Wage rate per hour is £6.50, you can get that for flipping burgers, sweeping floors, shelf stacking etc and be home every night. Who would spend thousands, jump through all the hoops, rules and regulations for an extra £1.50 an hour? - Pay a decent wage! - (CPC at £500 = 62.5 hours work, or over 333 hours of the extra £1.50 you’d get when you passed!)
A burger flipper with no educational background could become a Class 1 driver & see their annual salary increase anything from £10-£20k a year, whilst still being home every night.
muckles:
I’m sure many more would be interested in getting a HGV licence in this Country if it lead to a £50k+ a year job, even if you had to work on the other side of Europe to do it.
I believe that amount of money can be paid by employers easily & its sustainable if they stop being so greedy, £35k basic 40/42hr week driving a truck would attract & retain more individuals I think…
There is no shortage of drivers they are ten a penny, there is an acute shortage of drivers who can do the work find the delivery point and bring the vehicle back in one piece, and have a positive can do attitude.
We have around 100 agency drivers from 5 different agencies we use regularly, the bad ones get weeded out at the assessment stage the failure rate is fairly high, the majority of the young drivers are Eastern European local drivers are older and have other commitments and like the flexibility, there are many factors that put people off especially those with young families where both parents work, unsociable hours, varying start and finish times, poor pay and transport is now 24/7 when I started we all went home on Friday afternoon not any more the licence is also difficult to obtain and not cheap.
Do you find eastern European drivers are more flexible about forgetting health and safety .and is the screening process to check willingness to do this.100 a day .good planning …commission
mike68:
there is an acute shortage of drivers who can do the work find the delivery point and bring the vehicle back in one piece, and have a positive can do attitude.
No there isn’t, plenty about with the ability to do the job as required, not all want to work under poor conditions of crummy supermarket chains…
mike68:
the licence is also difficult to obtain and not cheap.
Santa:
Nothing new about bussing drivers in from far away. When I was on Agency in the 90s they were paying drivers accommodation and TX to come down to the Midlands from Scotland .
You have to pay well to get people into the Midlands!
Contract I finished earlier this year paid £13.60 hour with the shift allowance for two shifts 6am to 2pm and 2pm to 10pm Mon to Fri. This was non driving working on an engine assembly line.
Last year I enquired with a local haulier about HGV driving work working with primarily steel deliveries. Pay rates were £7.20 hour for rigids and £8.00 hour for artics.
One agency in this area regularly advertises for shop deliveries (milk) at just £7.60 hour. Looking at that website for this Swindon agency, they too are paying poor wages and some of their ‘clients’ are over forty miles away from Swindon.
There are no agency muppets.the muppets are the desk jockey told not to employ or train staff .but to pay off pensions .and employ migrants.stop preying on the next generations future to perpetuate a corrupt regime in transport hellbent entirely on profit.
Have look at Ebay “overseas properties”. It is possible to buy a farm, shop, house in eastern Europe for under £50k. An east European driver could earn/save that by working over here for 3 years. For how long would a British driver have to work here to buy a farm/shop/house here? Incidentaly, I believe that China’s biggest trading partner is not, as you would expect Russia or India. It is Walmart.
thetastytrucker:
At 21, the National Minimum Wage rate per hour is £6.50, you can get that for flipping burgers, sweeping floors, shelf stacking etc and be home every night. Who would spend thousands, jump through all the hoops, rules and regulations for an extra £1.50 an hour? - Pay a decent wage! - (CPC at £500 = 62.5 hours work, or over 333 hours of the extra £1.50 you’d get when you passed!)
Aldi were looking for driver’s at Goldthorpe on nights £12.68 per hour, for that you had to load the truck, unload it and put in warehouse at the store, reload any rubbish cages etc, same at the next store, go back unload all the crap do the usual diesel up etc., just think of the wages they save in staff if the driver is doing three men’s jobs, never bothered applying, too late now mind you as I am knackered.
Blunder Man:
Aldi were looking for driver’s at Goldthorpe on nights £12.68 per hour, for that you had to load the truck, unload it and put in warehouse at the store, reload any rubbish cages etc, same at the next store, go back unload all the crap do the usual diesel up etc., just think of the wages they save in staff if the driver is doing three men’s jobs, never bothered applying, too late now mind you as I am knackered.
Lidl works the same way, probably why 75% of our drivers are east european. We do get UK drivers start but they don’t usually last long.
I’ve already been turned down for more than one job - because my previous job has been paying over £10ph. “We don’t want malcontents on our staff” said he…
Quite frankly, the people who moan about “immigration” all the time are the very people who continue voting Tory, and are looking to employ a busload as they come in from Bulgaria or wherever. Hypocrites all.
I’ve always said the key to all this is the insurance industry. The moment insurers start charging huge ramped-up premiums for employees who can’t pass an O level in English (needed to get any decent job at all in the '70s remember?) the less inclined the hypocrite employer will be in employing inexperienced-in-Britain staff “to save a few quid”. If they are that close to the knuckle in the industry - it’s time to shut down before you fall down. Sooner or later that same business is going to go under owing money to the taxpayer, and other small creditors - making losers of them all.
Unless something is done the next change in the law will make it compulsary for all drivers over 50 (eg. the average Brit driver) to retire at the first sniff of anything going wrong with their health due to age. This in turn in the longer run may eventually lead to a “driver” tragedy along the lines of Germanwings last month. Many might actually want to retire - but can’t - because the pensions of many just won’t cut it.
Austerity needs to end, and the bill handed to those with their noses in the trough these past 8 years. That’s not the immigrant, nor the average driver - but those who’ve twisted and turned with every nuance of new legislation to make the lives of those under them harder by the day…
Any incoming government threatening the so-called “Chaos” of manufactured inflation - is to be applauded right now. I’m not scared of Sturgeon, nor Balls, nor Boris - all people who will be playing a bigger part in our day-to-day lives in the next few years - like it or not.
(Note: When you have deflation in play already - it’s damned hard to create inflation. Even printing money hasn’t worked - as both the Bank of England and the ECB have already found out.)
Euro:
Have look at Ebay “overseas properties”. It is possible to buy a farm, shop, house in eastern Europe for under £50k. An east European driver could earn/save that by working over here for 3 years. For how long would a British driver have to work here to buy a farm/shop/house here? Incidentaly, I believe that China’s biggest trading partner is not, as you would expect Russia or India. It is Walmart.
thetastytrucker:
At 21, the National Minimum Wage rate per hour is £6.50, you can get that for flipping burgers, sweeping floors, shelf stacking etc and be home every night. Who would spend thousands, jump through all the hoops, rules and regulations for an extra £1.50 an hour? - Pay a decent wage! - (CPC at £500 = 62.5 hours work, or over 333 hours of the extra £1.50 you’d get when you passed!)
In our current deflationary environment - bargain assets are easy to come by, as they are in places in Eastern Europe. The problem is, they don’t generate a decent income - and that’s the problem with working in this country right now. Incomes are declining. Deflation is manifesting itself in falling incomes from jobs and savings accounts alike. Business start-ups today attempt to generate income at someone else beneath them’s expense. This is a long term recipie for disaster, as the correct way to run a “successful” business is to derive most of your revenues from the society group most able and most willing to pay your prices. The whole economy is standing on it’s head right now, with the next profit coming at the expense of some other working class person’s loss. All wrong.
I bet you can’t get a “farm smallholding” in Eastern Europe capable of producing commodity-standard produce… If it could actually produce a good income - it wouldn’t be that cheap, nor have their own countryfolk running away from running such farms themselves - right?
if you want to change how things are done althought drivers missed the chance to protest when the cpc card was brought in not many of them refused to get one they were all to worried and scared to every come to see if they all did it then the whole coutry would of been brought to its knees it would be the only way drivers could of stood up to whats going on
ukip is the only party that will at least try to change what is going on in todays market, the other partys will bring with them more of the same and you guys will still be on 7 8 or 9 quid an hour in 5 years from now and the bills will be even higher
thanks to all the drivers coming here from other country’s, close the door to that and then see just how much drivers wages will go up as there will not be enough of us
all you have to do is look at the nhs and hows it over run with people who can not even speak good english these days to see just what is going to happen in transport and many other sectors thanks to the polictial correct nutter who are happy to see our own guys being forced to work for low wages instead of paying a decent wage for a decent job
not to mention all the health and safety bolox that year on year gets introduced by some faceless moron in brussells
vote ukip and stop them all getting away with this nonsense its yet another chance drivers have to do something directly that will help us all get better off and a bit of respect back for our job, or stick to what your doing but give up moaning,
Blunder Man:
Aldi were looking for driver’s at Goldthorpe on nights £12.68 per hour, for that you had to load the truck, unload it and put in warehouse at the store, reload any rubbish cages etc, same at the next store, go back unload all the crap do the usual diesel up etc., just think of the wages they save in staff if the driver is doing three men’s jobs, never bothered applying, too late now mind you as I am knackered.
Lidl works the same way, probably why 75% of our drivers are east european. We do get UK drivers start but they don’t usually last long.
no surprise there any driver worth there salt wouldnt hang around working for that crap outfit, why should they when they can find nice easy work for the same sort of money or a lot more money, so they will only get monkeys working for them, b+m and also home and bargin tj morris are always looking for mugs as well sorry i mean drivers no one seems to last long with those outfits either one wonders why ?
Blunder Man:
Aldi were looking for driver’s at Goldthorpe on nights £12.68 per hour, for that you had to load the truck, unload it and put in warehouse at the store, reload any rubbish cages etc, same at the next store, go back unload all the crap do the usual diesel up etc., just think of the wages they save in staff if the driver is doing three men’s jobs, never bothered applying, too late now mind you as I am knackered.
Lidl works the same way, probably why 75% of our drivers are east european. We do get UK drivers start but they don’t usually last long.
no surprise there any driver worth there salt wouldnt hang around working for that crap outfit, why should they when they can find nice easy work for the same sort of money or a lot more money, so they will only get monkeys working for them, b+m and also home and bargin tj morris are always looking for mugs as well sorry i mean drivers no one seems to last long with those outfits either one wonders why ?
So, in a nutshell, you want us all to vote ukip so they can abolish the dcpc, thereby letting you back into a job which, reading your posts, you don’t seem to like very much. Relax, ukip won’t be getting anywhere near enough seats to make a difference anywhere, thereby forcing you to carry on outside the industry or do the dcpc. Either way whatever happens at places like aldi or lidl won’t affect you, unless you get a job as a barrier tech there of course. No dcpc required.
Blunder Man:
Aldi were looking for driver’s at Goldthorpe on nights £12.68 per hour, for that you had to load the truck, unload it and put in warehouse at the store, reload any rubbish cages etc, same at the next store, go back unload all the crap do the usual diesel up etc., just think of the wages they save in staff if the driver is doing three men’s jobs, never bothered applying, too late now mind you as I am knackered.
Lidl works the same way, probably why 75% of our drivers are east european. We do get UK drivers start but they don’t usually last long.
no surprise there any driver worth there salt wouldnt hang around working for that crap outfit, why should they when they can find nice easy work for the same sort of money or a lot more money, so they will only get monkeys working for them, b+m and also home and bargin tj morris are always looking for mugs as well sorry i mean drivers no one seems to last long with those outfits either one wonders why ?
So, in a nutshell, you want us all to vote ukip so they can abolish the dcpc, thereby letting you back into a job which, reading your posts, you don’t seem to like very much. Relax, ukip won’t be getting anywhere near enough seats to make a difference anywhere, thereby forcing you to carry on outside the industry or do the dcpc. Either way whatever happens at places like also or lidl won’t affect you, unless you get a job as a barrier tech there of course. No dcpc required.
lidl and aldi are winning the battle of the super markets Tesco is a lame duck now.
lidle and aldi are not winning , I have shopped there , not good on the food side ,tools ect mmmmmm ? clothes who are they suppose to fit,…an alien no mate its all hype.