I’m not a owner driver nor a transport manager but I just came across this and though is this good 
nolantransport.com/NT_Home.asp
Great if you have a load to move. I would guess nolans would have a good deal on the ferry or train but there wouldn’t be much left out of 300 quid to play with.
I guess it’s a case they have good loads from Eire to the uk and decent stuff from Europe back here and Eire so will use that to cover the hop across the channel
I would consider £300 to be a very good rate from London to northern France or Benelux… if I employed Bulgarians on £25 a day.
Fortunately, that is something I would never do.
Bloody expensive
try a load from British sugar in silvertown to gent
done by a certain large company who’s name is the same initials as a small country between belgium and germany 
€200.00. and that is sub contract rates. which i know they lose on just to cover them. also cobelfret or cdmr depending on which trailer and company its from are less than that. Wiggins teape in dartford to monchengladbach €245.00
r slicker:
Bloody expensivetry a load from British sugar in silvertown to gent
done by a certain large company who’s name is the same initials as a small country between belgium and germany
€200.00. and that is sub contract rates. which i know they lose on just to cover them. also cobelfret or cdmr depending on which trailer and company its from are less than that. Wiggins teape in dartford to monchengladbach €245.00
Dartford to Monchengladbach is 323miles, even going easy on the gas pedal it would cost you 180GBP in juice (assuming you filled up in the UK I guess).
How does this pay, even for foreigners?
hammer:
Dartford to Monchengladbach is 323miles, even going easy on the gas pedal it would cost you 180GBP in juice (assuming you filled up in the UK I guess).
How does this pay, even for foreigners?
65p a mile if you drive,never mind the ferry, you couldn’t make that pay if the driver’s wages were £1 a day…
or do you put the trailer on the Cobelfreight ship?
Regards,
Nick.
We as a nation are a ■■■■■■■ disgrace & always have been over this imbalance with near european freight, I remember folks taking waste paper to Italy for £600 to get themselves there…
It will never change as long as some prick will load it, most of the pricks now where the flip-flop & the sooner they starve themselves to death the gherkin munching fools the better.
DSV wanted £35 for 1cbm to Riga city limits off my mate last week, ffs what are they on…
International transport for general freight has been ■■■■■■ for years, I stopped in 2004, The euro has’nt helped either IMHO…
Oh well off out to walk the dog like a good honest domestic haulier can on a school night…
Best rate I ever heard was when my ex boss phoned a freight forwarder looking for an export load, and the forwarder offered him a load from Canterbury to Calais, the rate offered was “You give us £10, we pay the ferry”.
Harry Monk:
Best rate I ever heard was when my ex boss phoned a freight forwarder looking for an export load, and the forwarder offered him a load from Canterbury to Calais, the rate offered was “You give us £10, we pay the ferry”.
Oh go on then I’ll pay £20 as long as its a P&O crossing… 
fly sheet:
Harry Monk:
Best rate I ever heard was when my ex boss phoned a freight forwarder looking for an export load, and the forwarder offered him a load from Canterbury to Calais, the rate offered was “You give us £10, we pay the ferry”.Oh go on then I’ll pay £20 as long as its a P&O crossing…
and i’ll pay £30 as long as it is SeaFrance crossing 
not a bad rate to be honest, would add £150 to the reload, most guys channel hopping are out empty anyway,
allways do your sums on a round trip basis…
Lrm
LRM:
not a bad rate to be honest, would add £150 to the reload, most guys channel hopping are out empty anyway,allways do your sums on a round trip basis…
Lrm
Are you having a ■■■■■■■ laugh?
Out of interest, how much is the ferry? Say Dover - Calais.
I would think an outfit the size of nolans would have good prices of ferry crossings but would have to be at least £150 quid
kr79:
I would think an outfit the size of nolans would have good prices of ferry crossings but would have to be at least £150 quid
errrrrrrrr ■■?
im only a small outfit and i pay less than that. i would guess at nolans say 10 crossings per day average around £100-£110.
i’ll pay you much more for the return journey.
pounds, or euro’s. your choice.
most of the guys channel hopping get a rate plus 2 crossings, if you nipped in and banged that load on, tipped it on your way out, (your passing anyway) then carried on for the load you were meant to pick up thats you up the price of a crossing
So to answer the question “are you avin a zb laff me ole china”, the answer is no, just telling it how it is…
The question is where do you value your time, if you have a man on hours it may not suit but for an od it could be a tidy little bonus, same could be said of the great boat versus train debate, £45 more on the tram but if your 3hrs sat in dover what price do you put on that…
ask a man on here what he used to pay subbies ex portsmouth to rotterdam, £250 an a tram, but look at the ipmort rate wi only 1 crossing, still worked out £1.90pm round trip… Always look at the bigger picture…
But… hey, whadda i know…
“Your passing anyway” oh dear Me.
LRM:
But… hey, whadda i know…
Not as much as you think you do 
Now, in a crazy mixed up way, there is some merit in what you say about taking a load rather than running empty, you get your outbound ferry out of it, but you have to load it, you have to tip it and you have to drag it down the road, if you do it for money and not a ferry voucher, you also have to get paid too, now at any point in that chain there could be a weak link and then you’ve lost money.
Now, in a non crazy mixed up way, anyone who hauls freight without making a profit on each job is carving the job up, simple as that, I couldn’t give a toss about how much the round trip rate works out too, because no matter how good it is, it would be even better if the outbound load paid decent money too and it would pay decent money if people didn’t run around for peanuts
newmercman:
Now, in a non crazy mixed up way, anyone who hauls freight without making a profit on each job is carving the job up, simple as that, I couldn’t give a toss about how much the round trip rate works out too, because no matter how good it is, it would be even better if the outbound load paid decent money too and it would pay decent money if people didn’t run around for peanuts
Well, in a way maybe, but as an exaggerated example if I had a job bringing widgets from Barcelona to London for £4,000 then it would be worth running down there empty for them. So if I could get £600 and a ferry to take a load down which was tipping in the next street and which only added four hours to the round trip time then that would be worth doing.