Wheel Nut:
I think we need to go back to basics, a zb big stop sign on a pole bolted to this barrier placed in front of the cab.
That would work
And a couple of group 4 snipers in the goon tower.
would a group 4 sniper be able to hit a barn door from the inside ?
At the back of this airline lock is a coded key that only releases when the lock is fitted, that key is the only thing that will open the loading bay door. Totally idiot proof, but it was designed because of idiots.
are trailers not fitted with shunt buttons any more ?
dmh1066:
its a very stupid and lazy thing to doâŚ!!! you dont have the keys so why would you risk not being in control and ultimatley killing yourelf or worse someone elseâŚ!!!
can hardly see the act of rolling forward a few feet ending your life, but granted its still stupid and wont even save you time, you still need the keys to drive off.
bestbooties:
If anyone has tipped/loaded at Amazon Swansea youâll be aware of the proceedure there.
Once backed on a bay,scotch under trailer wheel,remove red air line and fit locking dummy coupling,lock cab and return keys to airline lock and cab to gatehouse before anyone will get in your trailer.
The only thing they donât do is weld your trailer to the dock leveller!
GEFCO in PSA Rennes and a couple of other sites do almost do that, they feed a heavy chain round your rear bumper bar and padlock it, when the shunter comes round he parks in front of your cab, goes to the back and unlocks it, when he moves, so can youâŚ
When all is said and done, at the end of the day, if my auntie had balls sheâd be my uncle! It was a totally unnecessary thing to do. Whether or not it deserved instant dismissal is another matter, worthy of mass debate!
Been reading this thread racking me brains where Iâve come across a bay that was uphill to allow the truck to roll forward?
I nearly always had a look around the back when the green light was on to make sure they had finished, usually if the bay door was closed then I could assume it was safe to pull off the bay.
To be honest in my day only Iceland if I remember rightly did the key â â â â â â and the horrible little room thing! You couldnât possibly call it a ârest roomâ by any stretch of the imagination.
âCrazytruckerâ
Adam_Mc:
And for the bloke who said he didnât have full control?..of course he did, granted, for a drive on the road and down the motorway, he wouldnât have, but for a little shunt he definitely did have full control stillâŚyou can still brake properly and you can still steer the truckâŚyou have full control for the situation youâre intending.
Would the steering lock still be active? If so my view is the driver didnât have full control, straight line or not.
The punishment may be harsh but given the H&S culture at so many firms, mostly with good reason, it isnât a surprise.
cant see why the keys are linked to controlâŚgranted the steering lock may be on but thats not linked to the brake pedal or the park brake or even your brain if the things steering the wrong way then you just stop
what the driver did may have been wrong but i just cant get over this not being in control crap some drivers may not be able to cope should there be a need to move without keys
Adam_Mc:
And for the bloke who said he didnât have full control?..of course he did, granted, for a drive on the road and down the motorway, he wouldnât have, but for a little shunt he definitely did have full control stillâŚyou can still brake properly and you can still steer the truckâŚyou have full control for the situation youâre intending.
Would the steering lock still be active? If so my view is the driver didnât have full control, straight line or not.
The punishment may be harsh but given the H&S culture at so many firms, mostly with good reason, it isnât a surprise.
If the steering wheel is locked then it makes the situation easier doesnât it?..If youâre only going to shunt forward a few feet then what does it matter if it is locked?..youâre not going to suddenly dive into the truck next to youâŚyouâd have to be a god to make it down that
if it came to the brown stuff hitting the fan you would be sacked. its at best your word against theirs regarding the light and the fact you didnât have the keys youâd be screwed. sorry
I am soft so I would not sack the driver BUT, loader when he has the key would not think the truck had moved and so could have had a nasty accidentâŚGreen is go when SAFE to do so
Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the green light, chances are the guy didnât follow the rules and that was what he was sacked for, failing to comply with rules that he had agreed to comply with.
The reason drivers have to sit in poxy waiting rooms is because a minority canât follow the rules and by not doing so have caused injury/ caused a potential for injury
Any employer has a duty of care to their employees, drivers in the cab who ignore rules could put their employees at risk hence the easiest solution is to remove the driver from the cab.
You have to hand your keys in because that is part of the loaderâs safe system of work, no keys = no tip. Granted some sites donât require this but they probably have another system ie drivers told to remain on bay until someone comes to tell them they can move.
The reason waiting rooms are generally poxy is again because a minority of drivers treat facilities with disrespect and the company concerned no longer sees the point of providing anything other than the bare minimum.
And anyone who thinks that no-one has ever pulled off of a bay that was on red can think again it does happen and I have personally seen a Spanish truck pull off a bay that was on a red light at Tesco in Hinckley in the days before they had a waiting room for the drivers.
Also I personally before moving any vehicle off a bay check the back of it for a load bar (we use roll cages) so wouldnât move a vehicle without the keys., Indeed there is probably a clause in a SSOW somewhere that requires you to only release the handbrake when the engine is running.
