maga:
I cant think of any other sectors where its predominantly white males employed by a huge margin.
MP’s sprang to mind quite quickly. So we’re in bad company.
maga:
I was talking with my uncle and a few of his friends and we couldn’t come up with a reason why hgv driving is done by predominantly white males.My uncles Indian and has a franchise in Citylink so runs a few vans/7.5t but has no interest in going up any further.
I cant think of any other sectors where its predominantly white males employed by a huge margin.
Need to get out more mate! plenty of tippers around my part of the world with the “Khalsa” symbol on the cab or tailboard (it’s the Sikh symbol for the benefit of those who don’t know)
Winseer:
I don’t think anyone actually knows what “racist” means anymore.If a company like BsB (related in previous post) can “positively discriminate” to get so many percentage of ethnic minorities - then that to me is a profoundly racist recruitment policy! It means anyone white above the quota - will automatically get knocked back when applying - and the firm thinks it’s got around the law successfully (which of course it has!) by advertising for “anyone” - but just not taking anyone at the interview stage…
To put it simply ‘racist’ is what Hitler did in attacking different ethnic groups because they are different.It’s also what Tito did in forcing different ethnic groups to integrate by artificial methods.
Multi Culturalism means ‘celebrating’ the differences and maintaining them. 
G6Bob:
Hate the idea of that in any industry, best person for the job whether the be male,female, blue,black or green
Unfortunately it’s not like that in real life:(
I think it forms a pattern matching population geographically-the further north you go the fewer ethnic minorities & the more they are likely to be discriminated against. How come you see very few ethnic minorities in top jobs at any level in transport? In terms of drivers I’ve never seen any ethnic on car transporters, only one black guy on fuel tankers for BP down south.
If there were 2 driving jobs going with 4 applicants (same age, ■■■, experience, qualifications etc unlikely in reality), 1 white British, 1 white Eastern European, 1 black Carribean/African, 1 Asian Pakistani, Indian etc, I wonder who would get the jobs…
:shock:
I’d be interested to know how many non white males actually sit the HGV driving test vs white males. The answer to whether the transport industry is ‘racist’ probably lies there. I suspect not.
Pimpdaddy:
G6Bob:
Hate the idea of that in any industry, best person for the job whether the be male,female, blue,black or greenUnfortunately it’s not like that in real life:(
I think it forms a pattern matching population geographically-the further north you go the fewer ethnic minorities & the more they are likely to be discriminated against. How come you see very few ethnic minorities in top jobs at any level in transport? In terms of drivers I’ve never seen any ethnic on car transporters, only one black guy on fuel tankers for BP down south.If there were 2 driving jobs going with 4 applicants (same age, ■■■, experience, qualifications etc unlikely in reality), 1 white British, 1 white Eastern European, 1 black Carribean/African, 1 Asian Pakistani, Indian etc, I wonder who would get the jobs…
Assuming that the immigrant communities are only here because we need the workers why would there be less jobs than applicants.While it’s obvious that 'if that’s the case then the indigenous workforce should all be employed in preference to the immigrant one.The PC bs really is getting out of hand in this country.
I think this post was put up just to get folk revved up,i will give it 4pages then it will be in file 13 
Carryfast:
Assuming that the immigrant communities are only here because we need the workers why would there be less jobs than applicants.While it’s obvious that 'if that’s the case then the indigenous workforce should all be employed in preference to the immigrant one.The PC bs really is getting out of hand in this country.
I believe there are plenty British people available to work, employers are not prepared to ‘invest’ anymore.
Oatcakesped would like to report 0% racism.
Nothing to do with racism. If firms had signs up asking for white only drivers then sure thats racist but most just don’t see this industry as something they want to do. That being said, I’ve seen a fair few black guys driving anything from a 7.5T all the up to the big boy 44T’ers. I also saw a Asian chap driving for Morrisons out of Sittingbourne today.
Radar19:
Nothing to do with racism. If firms had signs up asking for white only drivers then sure thats racist but most just don’t see this industry as something they want to do.
As I’ve said,assuming that the immigrant communities are only here because we need the workers,then it’s obvious that the indigenous workforce should have the priority for jobs assuming a situation of less jobs than applicants.In which case how is saying that supposedly ‘racist’.
The issue then obviously being the one of the definition of ‘indigenous’.It’s no surprise that a cheap labour motivation,for the import of immigrant labour,would want to use the place of birth definition for that,rather than the ethnic origin one.
maga:
I was talking with my uncle and a few of his friends and we couldn’t come up with a reason why hgv driving is done by predominantly white males.My uncles Indian and has a franchise in Citylink so runs a few vans/7.5t but has no interest in going up any further.
I cant think of any other sectors where its predominantly white males employed by a huge margin.
To turn this around a bit. Have you asked you Uncle why he doesn’t drive and run larger trucks?
Or have you asked people in the various communities you mix with if they have a Heavy goods licence?
If not what puts them off doing it?
LIBERTY_GUY:
Why you see very Indian faces driving trucks, probably has more to do with strong family values. Not everyone would leave their families for days on end to doss in laybys and leave their families to fend for themselves. Not a nice life for either side.
I think there is defiantly something in this point. The occasional asian driver I see is always doing stuff like parcel trunking, trolly dollying, early morning milk deliveries or driving for a cash and carry. ie. Straight day or night shift work where they can get home to their families. You don’t see them tramping and/or doing max hour gigs for the reasons stated above.
Lets face it, they’ve got it right.
Radar19:
If firms had signs up asking for white only drivers then sure thats racist.
They don’t need to, most decent ones are up their eyeballs in applicants, they can pick & choose who they want, plenty of excuses avail should anybody question.
muckles:
Or have you asked people in the various communities you mix with if they have a Heavy goods licence?
If not what puts them off doing it?
Cost probably.
rob22888:
muckles:
Or have you asked people in the various communities you mix with if they have a Heavy goods licence?
If not what puts them off doing it?Cost probably.
Maybe or other opportunities for employment or lack of friends or family members already in the industry, so it’s not really a job that gets thought about.
How many people here got into this industry because, their father, brother, uncle or family friend drove trucks?
And if you come from Norfolk that is probably the same person. 
Out of a 100+ drivers at my current place, we have two guys who are several shades duller than white (is that PC enough?)
One guys from Zimbabwe - dont know about the other one. No racist situation here - just the status quo.
If the industry were racist, i dont think wed have quite so many East European brethren enjoying their British employment status.
Its because they’ve got more sense than to become truck drivers.
Carryfast:
Winseer:
I don’t think anyone actually knows what “racist” means anymore.If a company like BsB (related in previous post) can “positively discriminate” to get so many percentage of ethnic minorities - then that to me is a profoundly racist recruitment policy! It means anyone white above the quota - will automatically get knocked back when applying - and the firm thinks it’s got around the law successfully (which of course it has!) by advertising for “anyone” - but just not taking anyone at the interview stage…
To put it simply ‘racist’ is what Hitler did in attacking different ethnic groups because they are different.It’s also what Tito did in forcing different ethnic groups to integrate by artificial methods.
Multi Culturalism means ‘celebrating’ the differences and maintaining them.
Naw. If Hitler was merely being “Racist”, then he wouldn’t have persecuted white Europeans everywhere, including those from the same stock as the white German ancestory… Not the “Aryan” thing - that’s supposed to be a myth…
Hitler also persecuted Homosexuals, even those within his own high command - such as Ernst Roehm, who was shot on Hitler’s orders - once he found out he was batting for the other team… Ethnically, the Polish were very close indeed to the German race. They were the first ones to get invaded by force, rather than merely annexed - aided and abetted by Stalin’s Russia, whom of course Hitler later turned upon… They were not an “ethnic minority” either…
Walk down a German street today, and you’ll always see lots of Turks, and other mediteraaneans as opposed to what we would call “black” races as well. Does this mean that Modern Germany is “racist?” - No, it’s just the demographics of a mostly landlocked state in central Europe…
We don’t have proper “multiculturalism” in this country - because whilst we white Brits are supposed to make everything very inclusive towards ethnic minorities - the reverse doesn’t happen anywhere near as much as it should. Try dating a Muslim girl, opening an affordable restaurant, getting away with blatant lawbreaking, and of course getting a job that’s skewed against white Brits to apply for… 
muckles:
maga:
I was talking with my uncle and a few of his friends and we couldn’t come up with a reason why hgv driving is done by predominantly white males.My uncles Indian and has a franchise in Citylink so runs a few vans/7.5t but has no interest in going up any further.
I cant think of any other sectors where its predominantly white males employed by a huge margin.
To turn this around a bit. Have you asked you Uncle why he doesn’t drive and run larger trucks?
Or have you asked people in the various communities you mix with if they have a Heavy goods licence?
If not what puts them off doing it?
my uncle reckons its not worth the hassle to add anything bigger, he’d rather add more vans to his fleet.
most his friends seem to be taxi drivers, i have no idea what they earn but maybe that suits their lifestyle better like mentioned above.
For those saying cost, for indians especially they are very rich. Most don’t believe in credit and wealth is measured by family, not by household. My uncle needed 100k upfront to buy into the franchise and he had it within the month.