Is the Labour Party dead

I voted labour all my life , but just couldn’t stomach Corbyn , thornberry , etc , but I can’t relate at all to the tories, so will go back to labour next vote

Blair made Labour electable - by appealing to the Right population, which have long since been in the majority.

When I was a kid, young people despised thatcher, and I never voted for her neither during the 80’s.

My first vote was for the SDP in fact, and since then I’ve voted more for the Libdems than any other party - 1992, 1997, 2001, and 2010. I didn’t vote for them in 2005 because I disliked the local libdem candidate standing (switched to Conservatives - seat held by Labour) and I didn’t vote for cleggy in 2015 because he was against Brexit.

imo if Labour want to get elected ever again - they’ve GOT to appeal to people like myself, who’ve never voted Labour in their lives to date.

They could have made a good start by actually delivering on their promised “free stuff” as would socialist ideals suggest - but no.

You don’t offer Free Fish to a fisherman, but to a starving man - maybe.

There’s a lot of impoverishment around the country at the moment, which could and needs to be addressed by local Labour run councils of which there are still many about the UK.

A better rolling out of public services at Labour-controlled local government level - might improve their chances as well, of course.

As for “Red Sky Thinking” here - it would also be nice if Labour became less dependent upon borrowed cash from China.

Some better way out for debtors - would also give people hope who are otherwise hopeless right now.
It really doesn’t help that one sees Labour-run councils taking people to court for non-payment of things like Council Tax and even non-payment of the TV licence, which one would think is outside of their remit…

How about Labour incumbents - carefully explaining to indebted individuals (NOT “small businesspeople”) how they can actually achieve debt walkaway by proper debt liquidation (ie - the debt gets defaulted, and not paid) rather than clinging on like a millstone around their necks for the rest of the debtor’s natrual life instead?

We supposedly have “debt forgiveness” laws already in place, but the relentless pursuit of otherwise unenforacable unsecured debts - has already driven many a debtor to suicide, or worse - murder suicide where the entire family gets taken out by an indebted senior who has also cracked up on the mental health side as well of course…

Isn’t it time that Labour became a beacon in the darkness for Debt Relief then, instead of championing help for the third world, whilst working class people see their entire financial lives go down the toilet due to the lockdown already?

Charity Begins at Home we’re told.

Now let’s see Labour pick that up as a campaining slogan then - and finally appeal to the folks like me who are sick to death of being treated like criminals just because we’re skint through no fault of our own. :angry: