Is Jeremy Corbyn a twat

Lawrence Dunbar:

Bewick:

gazsa401:
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Well now “gasza” IMHO that’s all the “exes” Corbyn was worth and also IMHO that’s £8 too much what a [zb] he is ! Cheers Bewick.

Hi Dennis, I agree with you, He is a evil man and will do anything to get support, He should be stopped in his evil tracks now before he destroys the UK, I WONT SAY WHAT I WOULD DO TO HIM, Just to stop him [zb] the British People, Regards Larry.

Would it by any chance involve hanging him up by his ■■■■■■■■ Larry ? Because the ■■■■ has no Bollox has he ! :wink: Cheers Dennis.

lespullan:

ramone:
It makes me laugh when people go on about privatization and the NHS . British Rail was a standing joke that was blowing money all the time because like most state owned companies nobody gave a toss as long as they got their wage at the end of the week , workers who knew their “rights” very well , i knew a guy who worked at the Royal Mail and he could tell me how many days he was entitled to paid sick and took them every year which amounted to around 30 days , then he had his holidays on top .Most state owned companies were an easy ride . The NHS isnt working because of the Tories .... are we sure about that , how long were Labour in power and did the NHS run smoothly then , i dont think so , the reason the NHS isnt working is quite simple too many people are using it who havent paid in . I dont think it will make any difference who comes into power because the 2 main parties are so similar in style , they promise to deal with issues but never do ,not the issues that need dealing with . Anyone who wants to come here should firstly have a skill that we need and should be made to pay into the system for 10 years before they can use our "free" services or claim ANY benefits .Any immigrant caught commiting an offence that amounts to a prison sentence should be deported immediately , otherwise they become a burden on tax payers .We give money to third world counties every year ,where and why , charity starts at home ,lets put our own house in order before we start throwing our money around , and who actually gets the money most third world countries are corrupt . We need to get out of the EU asap and get back to running Britain in a way that suits us . Will any party promise this i dont think so because at the end of the day they all ■■■■ in the same pot no matter which party the represent , dont forget the only thing they agree unaminously on every year ... their pay rise and its always a large 1. Blair and his wife lined their pockets when he was in charge with the human rights law , which Cherie did very well out of helping to sue the state . Do i think Jeremy Corbyn is a [zb] yes i do probably a bigger one than most MPs but hes not on his own . :wink:

Hi Ramone, bet you feel better with that of your chest, :laughing: spot on mate, and yes Jeremy Corbyn is a [zb] idiot. Les.

I’ve just sent you a PM Les, cheers Haddy.

John West:
Ok, got to stick my 2 pennorth in here!

In answer to your question Dennis, I don’t think he is… However!

I find it hard to believe that well meaning people remain as naive as he seems to be.

Man is the greediest animal on the planet. Sadly, that includes all communists and socialists, many of whom often start with the best of intentions.

George Orwell saw the evil of capitalism and was a socialist, but realised that power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts absolutely. 1984 and animal farm make fascinating reading.

Within our industry, I would call BRS a failed social experiment. As with animal farm, there would always be people pulling their tripe out to cover for those who did little but complained loudly. Sadly, in that sort of environment somehow, the w****** seem to rise to the top!

I can’t believe in ‘free at the point of delivery’ enterprises, such as the NHS and ‘food banks’. They will always be abused.

One of my Dad’s exhortations to me was ‘Son, the world does not owe you a living.’ Sadly now, there seems to be a large section of the population who think it does!

I think capitalism is the least worst system. It does allow you to work hard and enjoy the fruits of your labour. Socialism and Commmunism allow those with conscience to work hard and support those who don’t.

John

I just bet the Barrovian “Red Brigade” now find themselves between “a rock and a hard place” John !! Corbyn would kick the Nuclear sub programme right into touch if ever (never) got the chance but I would still like to be a fly on the wall in the boozers and Clubs various down Barrow and listen to the craic !! Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas but then again that’s the Barrovian brotherhoods mentality I suppose ! Cheers Dennis.

Bewick:

John West:
Ok, got to stick my 2 pennorth in here!

In answer to your question Dennis, I don’t think he is… However!

I find it hard to believe that well meaning people remain as naive as he seems to be.

Man is the greediest animal on the planet. Sadly, that includes all communists and socialists, many of whom often start with the best of intentions.

George Orwell saw the evil of capitalism and was a socialist, but realised that power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts absolutely. 1984 and animal farm make fascinating reading.

Within our industry, I would call BRS a failed social experiment. As with animal farm, there would always be people pulling their tripe out to cover for those who did little but complained loudly. Sadly, in that sort of environment somehow, the w****** seem to rise to the top!

I can’t believe in ‘free at the point of delivery’ enterprises, such as the NHS and ‘food banks’. They will always be abused.

One of my Dad’s exhortations to me was ‘Son, the world does not owe you a living.’ Sadly now, there seems to be a large section of the population who think it does!

I think capitalism is the least worst system. It does allow you to work hard and enjoy the fruits of your labour. Socialism and Commmunism allow those with conscience to work hard and support those who don’t.

John

I just bet the Barrovian “Red Brigade” now find themselves between “a rock and a hard place” John !! Corbyn would kick the Nuclear sub programme right into touch if ever (never) got the chance but I would still like to be a fly on the wall in the boozers and Clubs various down Barrow and listen to the craic !! Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas but then again that’s the Barrovian brotherhoods mentality I suppose ! Cheers Dennis.

We have had a conservative MP here in the seventies and the 80s - Cecil Franks, a Manchester solicitor. So it’s not impossible. I also remember seeing Alexandra Bastedo in an open topped sports car alongside a candidate, can’t remember if it was Cecil - as you might imagine I wasn’t looking at him!

However, I suspect most people still vote labour hoping that they don’t get in.

Mr Woodcock was on TV this evening. I think squirming would best describe his appearance. Without nuclear submarines Barrow would be a series of empty buildings and docks, with the odd ‘James Fisher’ boat parked up here and there.

John

gazsa401:
We’ve been flooded with cheap labour which call me Dave has failed to halt and him and his ilk are lining their pockets by creating a even more over flooded labour market by keeping wages low
Also it’s ironic there were no major job losses in the last government but as soon as Dave gets in there’s massive job losses mainly in the steel industry then ironically he jumps into bed with the Chinese who have flooded the world with cheap steel

So exactly which part of Corbyn’s ideology allows for an anti immigration agenda and a protectionist anti EU and anti globalist policy.As opposed to Le Pen. :unamused:

John West:
One of my Dad’s exhortations to me was ‘Son, the world does not owe you a living.’ Sadly now, there seems to be a large section of the population who think it does!

I think capitalism is the least worst system. It does allow you to work hard and enjoy the fruits of your labour. Socialism and Commmunism allow those with conscience to work hard and support those who don’t.

John

What ‘Capitalism’ does owe us is a system which pays enough wages,to provide sufficient disposable incomes,to buy goods produced by domestic manufacturers who then employ more domestic workers on those good wages etc etc etc etc.

As opposed to cheap imports made using exploited labour in sweatshop Communist run economies like China. :unamused:

Carryfast:

gazsa401:
We’ve been flooded with cheap labour which call me Dave has failed to halt and him and his ilk are lining their pockets by creating a even more over flooded labour market by keeping wages low
Also it’s ironic there were no major job losses in the last government but as soon as Dave gets in there’s massive job losses mainly in the steel industry then ironically he jumps into bed with the Chinese who have flooded the world with cheap steel

So exactly which part of Corbyn’s ideology allows for an anti immigration agenda and a protectionist anti EU and anti globalist policy.As opposed to Le Pen. :unamused:

Corbyn as always been an advocate of leaving the EU as was Tony Benn but because Labour is filled with pro European Europhiles Blairites there’s many Labour MPs who are anti EU
The mans only been in the job 5 minutes it’s going to take a bit longer to fix the mess that Blair and Brown created
CF you seem to have the ability in not grasping the idea of being anti EU but liking Europe for some strange reason
Europe imports more in to the UK than we export
I’m very anti EU the idea of the U.K. leaving the Adolf Merkel led EU doesn’t mean we still can’t trade with Europe far from it
It means we’ll be able to run our own country and borders plus still trade with the rest of the world freely
You seem also to edit my posts when you use them to quote me
As for Le Pen the swivel eyed Nick Griffin springs to mind

Spot on Mr ramone. Nail, head, hit.
Oh, £11 BILLION in foreign aid EVERY YEAR…and us old folk are costing the country too much, it can’t go on, we’re living too long. :unamused:
And before anybody says it us oldies are STILL paying taxes, I’ve paid all my dues and demands for 60 years now and I’m costing the country too much :imp:
And yet, new incomers to MY country are looked after with basic needs.
JC is, IMO, not fit to be leader of the parliamentary opposition, he’s barely fit to be an MP.


I don’t see much on here about tax evaders it does make you wonder how muchis lost each year
Just saying

Bewick:
Stirred up a Hornets nest here I think ! Good ! So how about this one, regarding all the cut backs the local councils are having to make, at the moment circa 40% of our council tax goes straight to pay the “gold plated inflation proof pensions” of council employees !! So assuming (quite properly) when all the cuts have taken place and services have been severely curtailed guess what---- probably 50% of our council tax will go straight to the pensions of the Council Wallahs !! And while I’m tottering on the soap box what [zb] use are Community Support Officers (aka "Chocolate Fire guards) why are the Police being reduced and these useless [zb] are surviving the “chop”,I doubt wether there is much difference between the starting salary of a young Bobby and that of a “Chocolate Fireguard”, no contest as far as I can see, a Bobby is a Warranted servant of the Crown with powers of arrest etc. whereas a “Chocolate Fireguard” can’t even dive into a pond to save a drowning child let alone arrest anyone !! Cheers Bewick.

Looks like Dennis has got his Council Tax Bill, either that or they’ve missed his bin this week

ramone:
It makes me laugh when people go on about privatization and the NHS . British Rail was a standing joke that was blowing money all the time because like most state owned companies nobody gave a toss as long as they got their wage at the end of the week , workers who knew their “rights” very well , i knew a guy who worked at the Royal Mail and he could tell me how many days he was entitled to paid sick and took them every year which amounted to around 30 days , then he had his holidays on top .Most state owned companies were an easy ride . The NHS isnt working because of the Tories .... are we sure about that , how long were Labour in power and did the NHS run smoothly then , i dont think so , the reason the NHS isnt working is quite simple too many people are using it who havent paid in . I dont think it will make any difference who comes into power because the 2 main parties are so similar in style , they promise to deal with issues but never do ,not the issues that need dealing with . Anyone who wants to come here should firstly have a skill that we need and should be made to pay into the system for 10 years before they can use our "free" services or claim ANY benefits .Any immigrant caught commiting an offence that amounts to a prison sentence should be deported immediately , otherwise they become a burden on tax payers .We give money to third world counties every year ,where and why , charity starts at home ,lets put our own house in order before we start throwing our money around , and who actually gets the money most third world countries are corrupt . We need to get out of the EU asap and get back to running Britain in a way that suits us . Will any party promise this i dont think so because at the end of the day they all ■■■■ in the same pot no matter which party the represent , dont forget the only thing they agree unaminously on every year ... their pay rise and its always a large 1. Blair and his wife lined their pockets when he was in charge with the human rights law , which Cherie did very well out of helping to sue the state . Do i think Jeremy Corbyn is a [zb] yes i do probably a bigger one than most MPs but hes not on his own . :wink:[/quote
Hi Ramone,
I agree with every word,
It makes me laugh when they want back to the good old days of British Railways, or British Rail as they later called themselves
Unfortunately in those days I used the railways quite a lot, up & down to London nearly every three weeks,as well as regular journeys to Coventry, Birmingham, Manchester & Norwich to name a few regular destinations, meeting customers. So perhaps I am ‘qualified’ to have an opinion of the dreadful Communistic state of rail travel. Once a young lady, employed by BR came to me on a train & asked me to complete a survey. I had to borrow a pen & when she came back to collect it she read my remarks,for which I was a little embararssed, as she herself had been very polite, & to put it bluntly was ‘nice’ I however had told the truth that the carriages were filthy, the staff were lazy, ignorant & appeared to hate the passengers. The trains always ran late, and when asked what I thought could put things right I said close down BR & sack all the staff without any redundancy payments and allow private companies to run our railways. Sadly if Corbyn got his way those dreadful days of strike, work to rule would return.
The other memory I had from the communistic idea of nationalisation was Pickfords, with whom we had to ‘compete’ in quoting for household removals, and to make matters even better, pay our taxes to subsidise them for taking work that we should have had, and their inefficient way of running a business.
Unfortunately when we hear people complain about privatisation and want renationalisation, most with the exception of Corbyn, who has had a cushy life without any real work, paid for by the taxpayer, are not old enough to understand what life was like with Nationalised companies.
Finally, although I am not racist, it really annoys me when on TV we have people,who more often or not have difficulty with the English Language, and obviously are recent immigrants telling us how we should run our country. Finally, again, what we all should remember is the majority of people with views like Corbyn never have had the ability to buy for themselves a car or indeed pass their test to drive one.

gazsa401:

Carryfast:

gazsa401:
We’ve been flooded with cheap labour which call me Dave has failed to halt and him and his ilk are lining their pockets by creating a even more over flooded labour market by keeping wages low
Also it’s ironic there were no major job losses in the last government but as soon as Dave gets in there’s massive job losses mainly in the steel industry then ironically he jumps into bed with the Chinese who have flooded the world with cheap steel

So exactly which part of Corbyn’s ideology allows for an anti immigration agenda and a protectionist anti EU and anti globalist policy.As opposed to Le Pen. :unamused:

Corbyn as always been an advocate of leaving the EU as was Tony Benn but because Labour is filled with pro European Europhiles Blairites there’s many Labour MPs who are anti EU
The mans only been in the job 5 minutes it’s going to take a bit longer to fix the mess that Blair and Brown created
CF you seem to have the ability in not grasping the idea of being anti EU but liking Europe for some strange reason
Europe imports more in to the UK than we export
I’m very anti EU the idea of the U.K. leaving the Adolf Merkel led EU doesn’t mean we still can’t trade with Europe far from it
It means we’ll be able to run our own country and borders plus still trade with the rest of the world freely
You seem also to edit my posts when you use them to quote me
As for Le Pen the swivel eyed Nick Griffin springs to mind

If I’ve read it right you said that you want an end to the cheap labour immigrant workforce ?.In which case at least try to answer the question as to which part of Corbyn’s ( and by implication obviously your ) socialist ideology contains any anti immigration agenda ?. :unamused:

You also seemed to be suggesting that you want a protectionist trading environment which stops British jobs going to Chinese workers.In which case exactly which part of the Socialist doctrine would provide that as opposed to Shore’s protectionist,obviously more Nationalist,leaning one.

As for Le Pen no not Griffin more like the Nationalist,as opposed to Socialist,combination of Powell and Shore that we needed in 1972 before your lot hijacked the Labour Party and consigned it to the history books in the form of zb Callaghan,Foot and Kinnock and now Corbyn. :unamused:

So as I said if Corbyn wants to follow a Socialist agenda why doesn’t he join the type of Party that fits his ideology in the form of Socialist Labour or the Socialist Workers Party.Instead of trying to infiltrate the ‘Labour’ Party.In just the same way as the Cons infiltrated it with Blair.

As for Benn as I’ve said like me he was following Shore towards a more Nationalist line which can only mean ditching Socialism.It’s just that,like Heffer,he didn’t know it. :unamused:

As for Corbyn I’m guessing that you do know that he’s switched sides on the EU issue not surprisingly being that anti EU is a Nationalist stance not a Socialist one. :unamused:

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34272334

Carl Williams:

ramone:
It makes me laugh when people go on about privatization and the NHS . British Rail was a standing joke that was blowing money all the time because like most state owned companies nobody gave a toss as long as they got their wage at the end of the week , workers who knew their “rights” very well , i knew a guy who worked at the Royal Mail and he could tell me how many days he was entitled to paid sick and took them every year which amounted to around 30 days , then he had his holidays on top .Most state owned companies were an easy ride . The NHS isnt working because of the Tories .... are we sure about that , how long were Labour in power and did the NHS run smoothly then , i dont think so , the reason the NHS isnt working is quite simple too many people are using it who havent paid in . I dont think it will make any difference who comes into power because the 2 main parties are so similar in style , they promise to deal with issues but never do ,not the issues that need dealing with . Anyone who wants to come here should firstly have a skill that we need and should be made to pay into the system for 10 years before they can use our "free" services or claim ANY benefits .Any immigrant caught commiting an offence that amounts to a prison sentence should be deported immediately , otherwise they become a burden on tax payers .We give money to third world counties every year ,where and why , charity starts at home ,lets put our own house in order before we start throwing our money around , and who actually gets the money most third world countries are corrupt . We need to get out of the EU asap and get back to running Britain in a way that suits us . Will any party promise this i dont think so because at the end of the day they all ■■■■ in the same pot no matter which party the represent , dont forget the only thing they agree unaminously on every year ... their pay rise and its always a large 1. Blair and his wife lined their pockets when he was in charge with the human rights law , which Cherie did very well out of helping to sue the state . Do i think Jeremy Corbyn is a [zb] yes i do probably a bigger one than most MPs but hes not on his own . :wink:
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Hi Ramone,
I agree with every word,
It makes me laugh when they want back to the good old days of British Railways, or British Rail as they later called themselves
Unfortunately in those days I used the railways quite a lot, up & down to London nearly every three weeks,as well as regular journeys to Coventry, Birmingham, Manchester & Norwich to name a few regular destinations, meeting customers. So perhaps I am ‘qualified’ to have an opinion of the dreadful Communistic state of rail travel. Once a young lady, employed by BR came to me on a train & asked me to complete a survey. I had to borrow a pen & when she came back to collect it she read my remarks,for which I was a little embararssed, as she herself had been very polite, & to put it bluntly was ‘nice’ I however had told the truth that the carriages were filthy, the staff were lazy, ignorant & appeared to hate the passengers. The trains always ran late, and when asked what I thought could put things right I said close down BR & sack all the staff without any redundancy payments and allow private companies to run our railways. Sadly if Corbyn got his way those dreadful days of strike, work to rule would return.
The other memory I had from the communistic idea of nationalisation was Pickfords, with whom we had to ‘compete’ in quoting for household removals, and to make matters even better, pay our taxes to subsidise them for taking work that we should have had, and their inefficient way of running a business.
Unfortunately when we hear people complain about privatisation and want renationalisation, most with the exception of Corbyn, who has had a cushy life without any real work, paid for by the taxpayer, are not old enough to understand what life was like with Nationalised companies.
Finally, although I am not racist, it really annoys me when on TV we have people,who more often or not have difficulty with the English Language, and obviously are recent immigrants telling us how we should run our country. Finally, again, what we all should remember is the majority of people with views like Corbyn never have had the ability to buy for themselves a car or indeed pass their test to drive one.

I’m old enough to remember nationalised companies and I agree that the state shouldn’t own every industry as in car manufacturing air travel telecommunications etc
But for energy the transport infrastructure and other public utilities that the general public can’t do without then I think the state should own them
Again all these privatised companies go cap in hand to the government complaining of lack of investment to improve services so you tell me why should my hard earned tax be used to to subsidise these companies especially since most of them are foreign owned if that’s capitalism then you can shove it where the sun don’t shine
Also you claim not be racist but your line “I am not racist” is a good old chestnut that most racists claim when they start spouting about “bloody Johnny Foreigner”
Oh by the way I passed my car test and HGV class 1 first time thanks
Also I passed my City and Guilds 383 levels 1 to 5 all with distinctions plus my HND 1 and 2 in engineering again with distinctions and I’m also a member of I.R.T.E

gazsa401:
you claim not be racist but your line “I am not racist” is a good old chestnut that most racists claim when they start spouting about “bloody Johnny Foreigner”

The ‘racist’ card is the typical same ‘old chestnut’ that the socialists wheel out any time anyone dares to question their bs pro immigration world must live as one without borders ideology.Which is why we’re in the situation that led to Bewick’s comments concerning that pacifist,deluded, traitorous commy zb Corbyn. :imp: :unamused:

My word! Such vehemence!
Yes, Dennis - Jeremy is a pillock and should not have punched that Producer, so I look forward to a decent Top Gear with Aunty going round the test track in the Morris Traveller GSI and Boris on a reasonably priced uni-cycle. WHAT? Pills and bed already nurse? Jim.
P.S. Corbyn is a (LB) but so are the rest - no matter what party.

Carryfast:

gazsa401:
you claim not be racist but your line “I am not racist” is a good old chestnut that most racists claim when they start spouting about “bloody Johnny Foreigner”

The ‘racist’ card is the typical same ‘old chestnut’ that the socialists wheel out any time anyone dares to question their bs pro immigration world must live as one without borders ideology.Which is why we’re in the situation that led to Bewick’s comments concerning that pacifist,deluded, traitorous commy zb Corbyn. :imp: :unamused:

Do you know what doesnt make me laugh ■■■■?? agreeing with Carryfast but theres a first time for everything i suppose :wink:
What i would like to see is a system where every single penny we pay in tax is accounted for let us see exactly who gets what , and more importantly who pays what ,how can anyone justify a family of say 4 coming into this country having not paid a penny into the system and be granted a house and spending money whereas our pensioners who have paid in all their lives find out they are entitled to a measly pension , and god forbid they actually saved anything in their working life because once they become too ill to live alone their savings go straight into the nursing home they end up in, now if that`s being racist then well hey i am .

Carryfast:

gazsa401:
you claim not be racist but your line “I am not racist” is a good old chestnut that most racists claim when they start spouting about “bloody Johnny Foreigner”

The ‘racist’ card is the typical same ‘old chestnut’ that the socialists wheel out any time anyone dares to question their bs pro immigration world must live as one without borders ideology.Which is why we’re in the situation that led to Bewick’s comments concerning that pacifist,deluded, traitorous commy zb Corbyn. :imp: :unamused:

Haha Carryfast make ya mind up one minute he’s a socialists now he’s a communist is that why you get confused with your own political views but you try and correct others on their political views one minute your a Marxist then you claim to be a
Fordist
So prey tell us all how would you choose and select the leader of HM opposition ■■?
I’m not pro immigration I’m all for who we do and don’t let in to this country
Are Australia Canada The USA to name a few countries all socialists commy countries no they’re not but they all have a points system immigration policy
And talk of racism go back and look on the other sides topic of the in out referendum topic
You’d rather side up with the EE which some of them were part of the axis in WW2 than to have African/Asians who were our Allies
Be careful when you throw mud it sometimes sticks

I think it’s a pity. Before his remarks about ‘shoot to kill’ I had a lot of admiration for Jeremy Corbyn, but now that’s gone. Now lefties like me have nobody to represent us. Labour is in turmoil, the Lib Dems are irrelevant - but - hang on, maybe there’s a glimmer of hope - yess! - the Tories are offering to let the Chinese communist government build and operate a nuclear power station on London’s doorstep at Bradwell-on-Sea. You can’t get much more left-wing than that !!!

You’d rather side up with the EE which some of them were part of the axis in WW2 than to have African/Asians who were our Allies

That’s a very silly remark. Things change - we have to deal with things as they are now. After all, the United States was once an enemy of Britain and Saddam Hussein’s Iraq was an ally of the West. Not recognising things as they are now is the same trap that Jeremy Corbyn has fallen into.

All i will say on the matter is .to many barrack room lawyers it is getting in depth for me , some of the comments never came from the old mess room at a haulage yard, think some on this site have never drove a truck in their lives [my view] to political I am going back to the trucks, “ZB corbyn.”

gazsa401:

Carryfast:

gazsa401:
you claim not be racist but your line “I am not racist” is a good old chestnut that most racists claim when they start spouting about “bloody Johnny Foreigner”

The ‘racist’ card is the typical same ‘old chestnut’ that the socialists wheel out any time anyone dares to question their bs pro immigration world must live as one without borders ideology.Which is why we’re in the situation that led to Bewick’s comments concerning that pacifist,deluded, traitorous commy zb Corbyn. :imp: :unamused:

Haha Carryfast make ya mind up one minute he’s a socialists now he’s a communist is that why you get confused with your own political views but you try and correct others on their political views one minute your a Marxist then you claim to be a
Fordist
So prey tell us all how would you choose and select the leader of HM opposition ■■?
I’m not pro immigration I’m all for who we do and don’t let in to this country
Are Australia Canada The USA to name a few countries all socialists commy countries no they’re not but they all have a points system immigration policy
And talk of racism go back and look on the other sides topic of the in out referendum topic
You’d rather side up with the EE which some of them were part of the axis in WW2 than to have African/Asians who were our Allies
Be careful when you throw mud it sometimes sticks

Firstly no I don’t differentiate between Socialists and Communists.IE collectivism,removal of individual property rights in favour of state ownership and state allocation of wealth on the basis of each according to their so called needs,everyone is equal ( but some are more equal than others ),are all essential components of both.In addition to a Federalist centralised government system which takes precedence over/removes sovereign nation states and removal of nation state borders on that basis.Also shown by the fact that Socialism ‘and’ Communism are related by their own definitions.IE ''the ultimate aim for which all ‘communists’ strive is to bring about a ‘socialist’ ‘and’ communist society,hence the definition of the word Socialist not Communist in the title USSR.Now let me guess you’re going to say that Marx,Lenin and Mao were all Socialists not Communists.Or vice versa. :unamused:

marxists.org/reference/archi … k/ch03.htm

As for me supposedly 'one minute being a Marxist and the next Fordist no you’ve got that wrong.I ‘was’ a Socialist in my naive younger years but rejected the idea in favour of Nationalism very early on.When obviously,unlike you,I understood the difference between Socialism as opposed to Nationalism and Fordist Capitalism.On that note I’m still waiting for an answer to the question as to which part of Labour’s policy contains even the type of immigration controls which you’re describing even under the Con infiltrator Blair,let alone Marxist Corbyn.

As for the immigration issue I’ve actually said I’d prefer a total end to immigration on the basis that we’re full in terms of space,national security,indigenous v immigrant demographics,and an over supplied labour market.

As for WW2 yes the ‘Commonwealth’ fought on our side but you seem to conveniently over look small inconvenient issues like the Indian fight for independence in 1947 and partition regards same in addition to small matters like racist anti Jewish Palestinian/Arab alliance with Hitler.Among other ‘issues’ like rioting among the ethnic African community in resistance against ‘white’ policing and the fact that it didn’t seem so keen on ethnic European/African ‘multi culturalism’ in South Africa and Rhodesia.While I’d guess that the idea of fighting against the nazis was for the benefit of all the world.Not to bring the alien foreign groups,that made up the ‘Commonwealth’s’ population,all here as repayment for their services. :unamused: