Is it worth it?

I remember a few years back a beer wagon got caught overweight and wanted to offload some kegs and store them at our quarry. Pit manager wouldn’t have them kept in weighbridge due to ahem, travellers breaking in to pinch them; Dray operators rang and threatened legal action if they were nicked but police said weighbridge operator not obliged to provide storage.

Hope it didn’t happen in Kent as Kent Police fine drivers/operators up to £5000 for overloading…if I’ve read their website correctly. :unamused:

I once worked for James Gray Junior, based in Hethel in Norfolk. Bless his fat cotton socks.

funny old salad dodger he was. I’m convinced he must have had a regular Wednesday and Thursday night session down the rugby club type detail.

As Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, He was a cracking bloke to work for. Thursday and Friday was non stop rants and tantrums.

Well as we where loading at farms of fields with no weighbridge, If you handed in all your paperwork in on a Friday, woe betide you if you had a 43980 weighing in ticket from were you tipped. You where on carp duties on Monday for a couple of weeks. Every weighbridge ticket had to be between 44250 to 44750 if you wanted a quiet life.

Before the puritans all flock forwards, to give him his dues, he made this clear at interview level as rates in haulage are that carp. An extra £2.50 a load, multiplied by 6 loads a day, multiplied by 9 trucks has now brought him a new fleet. It was the drivers decision to accept it to be fair.

As said by someone in a previous post, under a tonne, loaded on the side of a field with beet is only a waggled finger.

Oh for the record, he was another long term 3 month employer whom will never have his door darkened with my CV.:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Pat Hasler:
, Domino will not allow us off site if we hit an once over 80,000lbs :laughing:

Still 8 tonnes short over here

Chewyboy:

ibson:
Why will they not let you tip if you are over weight though? I mean is it not then partly their responsibility for sending you away onto public roads over weight, it’s no worse than the guy on the weigh bridge who let him go at the other end!

Because if they let so many of you in over weight over time your tipping a load for free that’s a weigh ridge op told me at a tip that we were regularly running into overweight they can usually suffer you being a ton over its when you go in at 34 ton In an 8 wheeler they tend to get upset at least round here anyway

Maybe they should get a weigh bridge on the receiving tip? Then they could charge you your exact weight? Rather than turn you away possibly illegally? And as a registered tip you would think they would have a weigh bridge.

When we have a muck away job or we move topsoil we only get trucks in with on board weighers, i get fed up of people trying it on and taking half loads, it’s not that I want them over weight, but I want a full load, on 4000 tonne of soil being moved if they take a couple of tonne under each load it adds up to 4 or 5 more loads being paid for.

As a driver of a 8 legger with a weigher how do you make sure i have the max legal weight on as you wont know my tare weight to start with?
as the driver operates the weigher in the cab in most cases loading a couple of ton light is quite simple!

Chewyboy:

ibson:
Why will they not let you tip if you are over weight though? I mean is it not then partly their responsibility for sending you away onto public roads over weight, it’s no worse than the guy on the weigh bridge who let him go at the other end!

Because if they let so many of you in over weight over time your tipping a load for free that’s a weigh ridge op told me at a tip that we were regularly running into overweight they can usually suffer you being a ton over its when you go in at 34 ton In an 8 wheeler they tend to get upset at least round here anyway

How does that work ?
If you tip 25,000kg you are billed an amount. If you tip 25,250kg you get billed for a slightly higher amount. Waste tipping tax is per tonne, not per load.

over here in manitoba they are ■■■■ about axle weights!!!
gross can be a couple o ton under …but if half a ton or so over on an axle group you are finned big time …think $1000…first offence
well btrain 3 axle unit .
2 middle axles then 2 rear axles…(quarry stone)grossed 51 tns (allowed 53.5)all i did was lift end dump slid some weight back… :imp: :imp:
yeah that was me a month ago … boss good as gold…his words its haulage!!
first fine in 30yr driving!.
jimmy.
forgot to say 570kg over on centre…no electronic gauges …just air gauges on trailors
and scale quarry on a slope…

Moose:
As a driver of a 8 legger with a weigher how do you make sure i have the max legal weight on as you wont know my tare weight to start with?
as the driver operates the weigher in the cab in most cases loading a couple of ton light is quite simple!

I vary what weight I sound the horn. Big bucket a bit early as most drivers think it’s ok to empty the bucket after hearing the horn. Small builders with mini diggers I’ll go just over my mgw if the customer is sound.

Simon:

Chewyboy:

ibson:
Why will they not let you tip if you are over weight though? I mean is it not then partly their responsibility for sending you away onto public roads over weight, it’s no worse than the guy on the weigh bridge who let him go at the other end!

Because if they let so many of you in over weight over time your tipping a load for free that’s a weigh ridge op told me at a tip that we were regularly running into overweight they can usually suffer you being a ton over its when you go in at 34 ton In an 8 wheeler they tend to get upset at least round here anyway

How does that work ?
If you tip 25,000kg you are billed an amount. If you tip 25,250kg you get billed for a slightly higher amount. Waste tipping tax is per tonne, not per load.

Down here stuff going to landfill is charged by the weight but clean muck is generally by the load.

All our tipping charges are by the tonne, although we don’t deal with landfill waste, just inert/rubble and tarmac (which can’t be dumped in the ground anymore).Subbies are paid by the tonne for deliveries but by the load for muckshifting.

ibson:
Why will they not let you tip if you are over weight though? I mean is it not then partly their responsibility for sending you away onto public roads over weight, it’s no worse than the guy on the weigh bridge who let him go at the other end!

When I was on tippers, I was doing a local muckaway run between a new shopping centre and the tip.
On run number 5, they told me to ask for 1 less scoop from now on as I’d been overweight everytime until then.

BUT, if I got pulled, I’d have been clear, because this was the closest weighbridge to being loaded, so maybe that has something to do with it?

If you had the weights of every load, any Vosa bod might say you should’ve done something about the overload after the first one.

I’ve weighed in at almost 45ton a few times at flour mills (dodgy weigher at farms).

One time the weighbridge person told me that I was too heavy and that I wasn’t allowed to tip it. I asked him where I was supposed to go and tip off the extra 900kg, and he said it wasn’t his problem.

I worried for a few minutes before phoning the boss, and he told me to tell the weighbridge person that he would be breaking the law by knowingly sending me out on the public road overweight. I did as I was told, and 5 minutes later the sampling spear was poking about with my wheat.

As I was getting ready to tip a manager in a shirt and tie (hi-viz hardhat goggles etc too) came out and said that he had to supervise me while I tipped.

So it’s not worth the grief you get, and also you usually don’t get paid for the overweight.