kr79:
You would obviously all be happy if a senior member of staff where you work punched you in the face for them to be kept on.
I bet if it was the other way the person would be facing police charges.
I think its more a case of the BBC don’t like Top Gear for ‘political’ reasons which is why it has gradually been reduced to less and less episodes with recent series in recent times over before they have begun.Last year was even less and this year they’ve obviously gone out to get rid of it.Meanwhile the Daily Mirror have obviously already taken sides no doubt seeing it in similar class war terms.Which probably explains why all the Leftists didn’t call for Prescott’s removal for attacking a member of the public when he tried to turn an argument into a fight.No surprise that the commies would want to apply double standards in that case.
As for Clarkson I’m not a total fan of his politics he allegedly being a dyed in the wool Con supporter rather than UKIP for example.But I support his anti PC outlook and the fact that the programme,until recently,reflected that 100%.While it is that issue which is why they/the establishment are out to ‘get’ Clarkson and Top Gear.Not the fact that he’s done a Prescott. 
toby1234abc:
Carryfast:
I’m surprised that he didn’t tell the PC establishment controlled Communists to get stuffed when they obviously forced him to push the green agenda with the gushing praise of the I8. 
If I was him I’d walk away and tell them to shove it.It seems obvious that the BBC would be more suited to a change in emphasis to Socialist and Green Party news weekly.
to add the tree huggers that stop new roads,and people that protect Badgers, tell that to the farmer that slaughtered 600 cows.
Ironically the ‘Greens’ in this case being more a case of the melons green on the outside red on the inside and who are more likely to want to tear up the green belt to add more of the surrounding counties and countryside to their inner city demographic and liking than they are to want to protect it.As for the badgers who knows it might just be possible that it is the cows transmitting TB to the badgers not vice versa With TB in cows long being a well known issue hence the introduction of the pasteurisation process long ago.
happysack:
Top gear is crap. Nothing about cars for working class blokes. But I Still watch it every week. In fact I only watch that and country file most weeks. Occasionally antiques roadshow.
I watch it with the wife and daughter. It’s the only thing we all agree on to watch. If it was a car program comparing the focus, astra and some french thing, would we watch? Very much doubt it.
Plus Jeremy has decent dress sense. I’d sack James May for wearing trainers.
The idea of being working class but still have a liking and admiration for unaffordable cars and having that liking in common with ‘the rich’ is what seperates socialist politics of envy from just liking well engineered cars.Also on the basis that many of such cars often become affordable eventually.It’s probably that culture clash which is what is really behind the ‘issues’ of the leftist agenda trying to remove Top Gear from the scene.
happysack:
the maoster:
knight2:
A very small percentage of the of the the worlds viewing public. Just out of interest what does Hth mean.
A hell of a lot more than read your post asking “who cares”. So does that mean that less care about Top Gear or less care about your post? A conundrum I’m sure you’ll agree.
Hope That Helps = hth.
Or
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Thanks 
The point is a lot more don’t care than do. Let face it, it’s probably another storm in a tea cup just like the last one and should not be news worthy.
when star in reasonable car bit comes on, I’ll go and wash up or something - bores me rigid that bit
I’m confused, who did Clarkson punch, a cow, a badger or a communist?
Goldilox:
when star in reasonable car bit comes on, I’ll go and wash up or something - bores me rigid that bit
+1.
It would be better to make it an audience run what you brung including for log books if they choose to. 
In which case you can bet it would cause a storm of health and safety,encouragement of fast driving and CO2 pollution etc etc etc protests from the leftists.
Rich_T:
I’m confused, who did Clarkson punch, a cow, a badger or a communist?
Some say it was a Green Party Communist who wanted to evict all the cows and badgers to build a large social housing estate on their fields. 
toby1234abc:
Carryfast:
I’m surprised that he didn’t tell the PC establishment controlled Communists to get stuffed when they obviously forced him to push the green agenda with the gushing praise of the I8. If I was him I’d walk away and tell them to shove it.It seems obvious that the BBC would be more suited to a change in emphasis to Socialist and Green Party news weekly.
That is the most sensible thing Carryfast has ever said and so true, to add the tree huggers that stop new roads,and people that protect Badgers, tell that to the farmer that slaughtered 600 cows.
Toby calling Carryfast sensible is post of the year! I know you have an irrational hatred of BMW Carryfast but maybe the i8 is as great as every review I’ve ever read says it is. Why do you think Clarkson after years of being against the green lobby would suddenly back down over one car?!
Personally I think the man is a tool, he’s dug his own grave nothing less
happysack:
Top gear is crap. Nothing about cars for working class blokes.
Yebbut, do we really want to back to the days of William Woolard talking about how much boot space there is in an Austin Allegro? 
switchlogic:
I know you have an irrational hatred of BMW Carryfast but maybe the i8 is as great as every review I’ve ever read says it is. Why do you think Clarkson after years of being against the green lobby would suddenly back down over one car?!
Personally I think the man is a tool, he’s dug his own grave nothing less
Firstly some say the I8 is just a so called ‘supercar’ in which the eco maniacs have managed to convince some of the people that an overstressed 1.5 litre engine producing 220 hp is good value for their hard earned cash.Then to add insult to injury they bribe them with their own money by adding all the extra weight and complication of electric power to make the figures look better.When it’s clear that there’s no way that the output figures can be combined when the short range battery capacity has run out.IE after a few miles of blatting down the autobahn under combined electric battery and 1.5 litre mower engine power you’re back to just the mower engine’s output.Although even the combined power outputs at least are bad enough being still less than that of an E39 M5. 
Although admittedly combined torque is a bit better.
Which isn’t going to look so good when this arrives in the mirrors.
autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor … e-pics-and
Now do you really think that Clarkson would have been allowed to say all that by the Commy eco warriors who run the BBC.
Je suis Clarkson. 
The exact workings of the i8 clearly evade you. I could correct you but what would be the point…you’re not even comparing like with like, you could buy two and a half i8s for the price of that Aston.
Since you linked to Autocar here, have a read, then google BMW i8 reviews and see if you can possibly find a bad one… autocar.co.uk/car-review/bmw/i8/performance
Carryfast:
Then to add insult to injury they bribe them with their own money by adding all the extra weight
Yep, all of 10kg heavier than this…
Carryfast:
autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor … e-pics-and
Seems that Aston is a bit of a fatty.
But like I say, you cant compare a mass produced BMW to a limited run of 100 Aston Martins. If you want to spend £150,000 more to get to 60mph ONE SECOND faster then good for you
Petition to reinstate Clarkson is now gone over 500,000 signatures, taking TG off air has upset many viewers.
Vicky Butler Henderson as a stand in til the storm has blown over.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
Then to add insult to injury they bribe them with their own money by adding all the extra weight
Yep, all of 10kg heavier than this…
Carryfast:
autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor … e-pics-and
Seems that Aston is a bit of a fatty.
But like I say, you cant compare a mass produced BMW to a limited run of 100 Aston Martins. If you want to spend £150,000 more to get to 60mph ONE SECOND faster then good for you
No one is saying that the value for money aspects of all modern new cars aren’t a rip off.
Meanwhile I also made the comparison with the old E39 M5 which if anyone likes BMW’s can be found for less than £10,000 these days.As you seem to know so much about the workings of the I8 maybe you can tell me how a 1.5 Litre motor is going to outrun even that when its combined electric back up has discharged all of its battery power a long way before the old M5 has run out of petrol.Bearing in mind it probably wouldn’t even be able to outrun it ( in de restricted form ) with the combined power of a fully charged battery anyway.
I long ago gave up trying to tell you anything, BECAUSE. YOU. JUST. DONT. LISTEN. The information is out there to educate yourself, so maybe you should give it a go. Who knows, maybe a youtube video will tell you all. We all know how fond of YouTube videos you are…
switchlogic:
I long ago gave up trying to tell you anything, BECAUSE. YOU. JUST. DONT. LISTEN. The information is out there to educate yourself, so maybe you should give it a go. Who knows, maybe a youtube video will tell you all. We all know how fond of YouTube videos you are…
Youtube or even Clarkson himself couldn’t possibly tell anyone how a 1.5 litre engine is going to stay with let alone outrun a 400 bhb V8 M5 when the I8’s battery has discharged itself long before the M5 has run out of petrol.
IE the ‘combined’ power of the electric motor has gone with the battery charge and won’t be back ‘until’ the battery has been ‘re charged’ which takes longer than it does to discharge it.
Sorry if the facts don’t fit the Green Party/BBC script and ‘that’s’ more like the reason why the BBC want Top Gear and especially Clarkson to be taken out.Not because he did a Prescott in allegedly trying to thump someone as Norvernors are obviously inclined to do when they get upset about anything.
Carryfast:
Youtube or even Clarkson himself couldn’t possibly tell anyone how a 1.5 litre engine is going to stay with let alone outrun a 400 bhb V8 M5 :
What size petrol and err electric engines are in the latest generation Formula 1 cars CF? Maybe they should change them for M5 engines eh?
Clarkson knew he was on a Gypsies warning, after his previous exploits. My money is on him resigning before his sacking and setting up a similar show on sky. May and Hammond will follow.
In a way the BBC have no choice; they’ll kill off their best show, but have to be seen to do something after the previous final warning.
the maoster:
Carryfast:
Youtube or even Clarkson himself couldn’t possibly tell anyone how a 1.5 litre engine is going to stay with let alone outrun a 400 bhb V8 M5 :
What size petrol and err electric engines are in the latest generation Formula 1 cars CF? Maybe they should change them for M5 engines eh?
Bearing in mind that an F1 engine isn’t designed to have the durability requirements of a road car engine.In which case an F1 car isn’t going to win any races with even the highly stressed for a road car 220 bhp being publicised for the I8’s engine.Meanwhile their is no such thing as an electric ‘engine’ only an electric ‘motor’ which has to be provided with energy in this case from a battery pack that has to be charged first either from the grid or from the onboard engine.As I said when the batteries have been discharged then no more electric motor power ‘until’ the batteries have been recharged either by the energy generated by the onboard engine or from the grid.Which as I also said in either case takes longer to charge,than it did to discharge,the batteries.IE effectively the I8 is just an expensive 220 bhp 1.5 litre ‘supercar’ with a short range battery supplied electric back up/boost motor which can be used either seperately from,or in combination with,the engine.No surprise it is that short term ‘combined’ power figure which is used to hype the case for the so called ‘green’ option.
As for F1 that is a totally different idea of energy recovery which just recovers during braking some of the energy provided by the engine to start with.