How many from this forum drive for Mcburney?? Or montgomery?? Or Mulgrew? I take a lot of offence at the biggotry that goes on. Margaret Thatcher eat your heart out!
I mean who really care whos running bent and who isnt■■?
The trucking industry is no different to any other industry in the Godforsaken UK…It is legislated AGAINST, not FOR, just so the Government can make more cash out of business, the sooner everybody understands this the better for all!
Rules and regulations in many aspects of UK business are in reality un-workable, whilst maintaining a decent profit margin. And the amount of law-breaking that goes on in the food manufacturing industry is amazing and more to the point accepted as everyone knows that the regs are bloody stupid.
And…How many people who advised and recommended the legislation that we have to work to, actually did the job■■?
Like everything in the good old UK, it is all complete and utter
( language edit ) jd
ok whilst i am not taring anyone with the same brush some english operators are just as guilty but it doesnt help the cause when the irish have the rep they have got but then as i am on the M56 one night 3 virgina transport wagons overtake me like im stood still ok our wagons are limited to 53mph so just about everything passes us but these really were flyin and hangin off each others back door so close that they had no chance off takein any emergency action if needed, then next night on the M53 rite in front of the vosa a campbells tipper went past me again my wagon shook ( freighted at 42t) as he passed me!! needless to say mr vosa had a word with him!! but as i say not everyone is prepaired to run like this i was talking to a blair driver a few nights later and he say’s they would be sacked for that its the mindless few that get every one tar’d with the same brush!!
the g bear:
on the M56 one night 3 virgina transport wagons overtake me like im stood still ok our wagons are limited to 53mph so just about everything passes us but these really were flyin and hangin off each others back door so close that they had no chance off takein any emergency action if needed
All Virginia tucks are limited to 90kmh. They dont want anyone speeding, costs too much in fuel. Were you going downhill?
its the mindless few that get every one tar’d with the same brush!
Or mabye its the mindless english wanting to feel good about themselves thinking they are all legit 
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switchlogic:
the g bear:
on the M56 one night 3 virgina transport wagons overtake me like im stood still ok our wagons are limited to 53mph so just about everything passes us but these really were flyin and hangin off each others back door so close that they had no chance off takein any emergency action if neededAll Virginia tucks are limited to 90kmh. They dont want anyone speeding, costs too much in fuel. Were you going downhill?
the a1 between ferrybridge and scotch corner must be a 1:3 gradient then,judging by the amount of irish trucks that pass me like im stood still.!!!
buck73:
switchlogic:
the g bear:
on the M56 one night 3 virgina transport wagons overtake me like im stood still ok our wagons are limited to 53mph so just about everything passes us but these really were flyin and hangin off each others back door so close that they had no chance off takein any emergency action if neededAll Virginia tucks are limited to 90kmh. They dont want anyone speeding, costs too much in fuel. Were you going downhill?
the a1 between ferrybridge and scotch corner must be a 1:3 gradient then,judging by the amount of irish trucks that pass me like im stood still.!!!
I wasn’t talking about all Irish trucks, I’m just pointing out that Virginia trucks are limited. I get overtaken by many more Scottish trucks than Irish ones these days.
The problem is perception. That is there is a perception that all Irish trucks running through the UK are running bent. I’m sure that many are running legal or as legal as anybody else.
But it’s very difficult to get rid of a bad reputation and very easy to lose a good one. And it isn’t helped by some of the Irish drivers who seem to love to brag about their exploits.
Most Irish companies run legal now, Probably more so than English firms.
I know that in the past they have had a reputation for not giving a toss about the rules, But that has prety much come to an end.
When we were taken over we started running legal. That was a very big change for everyone, as some had never run legal unless there was no work to do.
I remember dropping my trailer in at Birkenhead, just as a few of the other lads had done. Normally we would be back down the road again, But we all parked up and started having a chat.
“What are we supposed to do now”?
With none of us being used to more than 5 or 6 hours kip per night, it was prety weard to get used to.
As for walsh western and virgina, they are as much on the level as everyone else.
The ones who get pulled most seem to be the supermarket agency drivers who work 7 days a week.
limeyphil:
The ones who get pulled most seem to be the supermarket agency drivers who work 7 days a week.
Yeah and thats just the dayshift they are doing not counting the night trunk on top of that for another company.
Ive done quite a bit of supermarket work in my time, never been pulled ever, been by checkpoints, closest ive come is being guided in then told to just drive back out.
Got pulled by traffic police in a Nothern Irish truck, had just started after having worked for a supermarket as a agency driver for a few months. They commented on how supermarket drivers always run legal, i burst out laughing and said yeah right.
People are entitled to their own fews, that every irish driver is running bent, its called stereotypes and ignorance but thats life. But when its the authorities with that view point which is seems to be its not on, espec when your getting pulled regularly by same old faces and there is never anything wrong, but always assume there is something wrong.
Espec when there is drivers blatantly breaking the rules with a UK licence but because they are driving for a large company in a new truck they don’t get pulled and they know fine well so keep on doing it.
Ok would be taking the pee to act as if all irish truckers are 100% legal, but there is much less enforcement over there, and is the fact you are trying to get a boat. If shoe were on the other foot, with little enforcement over here and having to get boats, would be a much different attitude.
muckles:
But it’s very difficult to get rid of a bad reputation and very easy to lose a good one. And it isn’t helped by some of the Irish drivers who seem to love to brag about their exploits.
The first part you wrote is very true muckles. I have to say thou the rules in the UK which VOSA enforce are a industry hinderence,they see hauliers ,native or otherwise as something to be opressed almost ,and will stop at no lenghts to find any discrepency.
With that in your mind you cant blame a driver for trying to get one up on VOSA.
ellies dad:
muckles:
But it’s very difficult to get rid of a bad reputation and very easy to lose a good one. And it isn’t helped by some of the Irish drivers who seem to love to brag about their exploits.The first part you wrote is very true muckles. I have to say thou the rules in the UK which VOSA enforce are a industry hinderence,they see hauliers ,native or otherwise as something to be opressed almost ,and will stop at no lenghts to find any discrepency.
With that in your mind you cant blame a driver for trying to get one up on VOSA.
Now I’ve never had a problem with VOSA, I’ve been stopped at a checkpoint in a week that I went over hours. I explained this to the man before he looked at my cards, he just gave me one of them looks and let me on my way and another time they pulled me because the trailer I was pulling was making loads of noise. It turned out that the centre axle was loose. I got a PG9 with enough time to tip and get it back to Tibury where I was going to drop it anyway. Can’t really see any hinderence there. 
If you want hinderence then get pulled in Spain. one small offence and it’s a big fine and it’s not just foreigners, I know lads who work for a Spainish race team and they got pulled in 6 times in a year and fined for pathetic stuff.
muckles:
ellies dad:
muckles:
But it’s very difficult to get rid of a bad reputation and very easy to lose a good one. And it isn’t helped by some of the Irish drivers who seem to love to brag about their exploits.The first part you wrote is very true muckles. I have to say thou the rules in the UK which VOSA enforce are a industry hinderence,they see hauliers ,native or otherwise as something to be opressed almost ,and will stop at no lenghts to find any discrepency.
With that in your mind you cant blame a driver for trying to get one up on VOSA.Now I’ve never had a problem with VOSA, I’ve been stopped at a checkpoint in a week that I went over hours. I explained this to the man before he looked at my cards, he just gave me one of them looks and let me on my way and another time they pulled me because the trailer I was pulling was making loads of noise. It turned out that the centre axle was loose. I got a PG9 with enough time to tip and get it back to Tibury where I was going to drop it anyway. Can’t really see any hinderence there.
If you want hinderence then get pulled in Spain. one small offence and it’s a big fine and it’s not just foreigners, I know lads who work for a Spainish race team and they got pulled in 6 times in a year and fined for pathetic stuff.
Bang on with the Spanish, I thought Franco was dead, but apparently he lives on through their traffic regs 
Mate got fined 300 Euros just for not having his license with him this year 
And dont have your stereo too loud - Fine. Dont have a personal stereo earphones in - Fine…
pete904ni:
its the mindless few that get every one tar’d with the same brush!
Or mabye its the mindless english wanting to feel good about themselves thinking they are all legit
eh? Not the Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British, its the English?!!!
scania king kev:
I take a lot of offence at the biggotry that goes on.
It appears to lurk just beneath everyones skin Kev !!!
ellies dad:
. I have to say thou the rules in the UK which VOSA enforce are a industry hinderence,they see hauliers ,native or otherwise as something to be opressed almost ,and will stop at no lenghts to find any discrepency.
With that in your mind you cant blame a driver for trying to get one up on VOSA.
You’d be spot on. They havn’t invested millions to start letting us all go with a warning. They’ll make sure they find summat.
Mike-C:
Walsh Western Directand
Whats the script with them? I’ve never really noticed them onthe road much before but they seem to be VOSA’s pet targets at switch island. Almost every time i go past i can guarantee there will be several of them parked up there?
Do they have a good rep over in Ireland?
To get back to your original question Mike,these two company’s would have as good a reputation as any so maybe it’s a clampdown on Irish hauliers in Liverpool.
Or maybe switch island is getting the clients it was built for. Planned discrimination by VOSA■■?
jr-1:
Vosa know everybody.
All irish targets . should be. Evry irish operator is running bent.
I challenge any of them to contradict me. I have tacho going back years that wernt collected and letters>. I am unemployed now cause I wount run bent.
and although I starven evry day I m’ free.
:
biggest load of I’ve ever heard.
I work for Woodsides and with all the checks, regular card downloads, fleetboard etc. we’re probably more down the line than most. 
( language edit ) jd
Mike-C:
pete904ni:
its the mindless few that get every one tar’d with the same brush!
Or mabye its the mindless english wanting to feel good about themselves thinking they are all legit
eh? Not the Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British, its the English?!!!
See, this is what i’m talkin about, didn’t see any complaints on the “English Work” thread when there was no mention of Scots, Welsh or Irish hauliers suffering with OUTSIDERS coming in doing their local work . It’s ok to be English when things are going ok, a bit of muck gets slung and as if by magic it’s BRITISH, make your minds up lads. .
pete-b:
Mike-C:
pete904ni:
its the mindless few that get every one tar’d with the same brush!
Or mabye its the mindless english wanting to feel good about themselves thinking they are all legit
eh? Not the Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British, its the English?!!!
See, this is what i’m talkin about, didn’t see any complaints on the “English Work” thread when there was no mention of Scots, Welsh or Irish hauliers suffering with OUTSIDERS coming in doing their local work
Thats probably because unlike Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, England is the only Country that doesn’t have any representation of its own. 
It may also of escaped your notice that Ireland (you mention Irish hauliers above) is a foreign country.
Although the Scots do have plenty to say about their own freight affairs…
tnn.co.uk/UKNews/IndustryBod … 8088556058
rha.net/press-releases/scott … roval/view
polfest.org/business/committees/ … l01-01.htm
If you spot any English reports give me a shout as i must of missed them.
But i never missed the debate on the Scottish Freight Enquiry , which was about as usefull as the ‘English Work’ thread !!
tnn.co.uk/UKNews/plonearticl … 4950818040
pete-b:
It’s ok to be English when things are going ok, a bit of muck gets slung and as if by magic it’s BRITISH, make your minds up lads.
Oh the irony !!! When we (in England) have have an assembly to look after our interests like the rest of you we’ll be ok . Well, as ok as the rest of you. For now we have to make do with being British, and just English when the rest of you don’t agree with summat
England does have its own assembly its called Westminster, that was the problem in the past Westminster was only interested in English matters.
Scotland has always had different laws etc… was embarressing when the tories where in power discussing scottish matters in Scottish question time and all their MP’s for Scottish issues were English because they didnt have a single MP north of the border. I am sure those English MP’s had Scotlands best interests at heart.