iPhone Apps to replace sat navs?

I currently work for a sat nav company who specialise in sat navs for truckers and frequent drivers. However lately I have noticed alot of people talking about an iPhone app called CoPilot which is set to replace the classic sat nav.

My question is how can you read a small phone screen and how can you prop it up when your trying to drive?

My main question goes out to all you professional truckers. Would you use a mobile phone app to direct you on your journey rather than a traditional sat nav?

Cheers, Josh.

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I tried the Co-Pilot app but preferred the TomTom one. You can get kits from various manufacturers so that you can mount the phone on the dashboard or windscreen like regular sat-navs.

As for the size of the iPhone screen, they’re not that much smaller than a sat-nav screen. At 3.5" it’s only 0.8" smaller than what most TomToms are.

To answer your last question, yes I would. The TomTom iPhone app is no different to any other TomTom. But, they don’t currently offer the Truck specific maps for the iPhone. When they do I’d have no qualms about using my phone for navigation.

I think to answer that question most people would adopt using an all in one phone application … the most simplest reason … less things to haul around …

i.e sat nav, sat nav charger , sat nav carry case and mount , also mobile phone , mobile phone charger and mount , blue tooth head set and the list goes on and on…etc, etc.
Plus everytime you stop off … you have to stow away ya sat nav just in case it gets nicked … ( which does happen )
but phones fit in pockets, and nearly everyone instinctively places the phone in his pocket when leaving the cab or leaving home.
considering you can do most things on phones these days.Its the way the markets heading .

To answer your question’s theirs plenty of after market mobile phone holders out on the market which are adjustable , plus most fone applications have the option to view in landscape or portrait mode. so viewing ain’t that bad …considering how better the phone displays have become … I just use mine for reference now and again.

another plus point is the ability to buy heavy duty spare batterys for phones, unlike on most modern sat navs which incorporate their batterys inside the casing. what happens when ya sat navs battery goes on the blink ? or the chargers knackered ? time to buy a new one ? hmm… i think i rather not

I rather just go to any phone shop in the country and pick a spare battery / charger up off the shelf and continue my journey, without having the hassle of sending off my sat nav unit for repair if the internal batterys packed in.

overall I rather use a mobile phone app … specifically aimed at professional drivers. preferably for the android format too… :wink:

the iphone wont replace my sat nav, if u get a txt while using the sat nav u have to touch your phone, ifsomebody phones when ur using you cant see where your going etc, i prefer my snooper lol

Its simple Josh the screen it just as readable as anyother sat nav the journey information is optimised for the screen size so that the essential information is readable

As more drivers get IPhone or android it is goin to become more popular

I’ve used PDAs for many years and have never had any issues reading the information presented and I’ve used most PDAs

Mounting isn’t an issue ether most generic mounts work well as do Brodit proclips I don’t think the pnd will totally die but it ls going to get a run for its money over the next couple of years as copilot truck for iPhone has been onthe AppStore for a few weeks and is also available for windows mobile I can see a time when pnd manufacturers are going to take a big hit from apps

alix776:
Its simple Josh the screen it just as readable as anyother sat nav the journey information is optimised for the screen size so that the essential information is readable

As more drivers get IPhone or android it is going to become more popular

I’ve used PDAs for many years and have never had any issues reading the information presented and I’ve used most PDAs

Mounting isn’t an issue ether most generic mounts work well as do Brodit proclips I don’t think the pnd will totally die but it ls going to get a run for its money over the next couple of years as copilot truck for iPhone has been onthe AppStore for a few weeks and is also available for windows mobile I can see a time when pnd manufacturers are going to take a big hit from apps

Goggzy I with regard to the phone issue no you wouldn’t have to touch the phone if someone rang you it all depends how an app handles calls most apps wil now run in the background as for txt yes you would have to clear the bubble but the navigation would just continue in the background

every app i have will either come up with a text window or if i get a call it goes to it, its too close to comfort for being done for using your phone whilst driving, plus my sat nav is about 4 times bigger than my iphone and if i recieve a call it can handle it for me.

I use copilot on my iphone as a backup, there is also an option to set your vehicle as an RV which routes you along major roads and not tight streets and roads

Just might give copilot truck a whirl o. IPhone if it’s as good as I’ve seen in action a while ago on PDA then it should be an excellent convergence app

gogzy:
every app i have will either come up with a text window or if i get a call it goes to it, its too close to comfort for being done for using your phone whilst driving, plus my sat nav is about 4 times bigger than my iphone and if i recieve a call it can handle it for me.

You are running os4 on your iPhone aren’t ya

alix776:

gogzy:
every app i have will either come up with a text window or if i get a call it goes to it, its too close to comfort for being done for using your phone whilst driving, plus my sat nav is about 4 times bigger than my iphone and if i recieve a call it can handle it for me.

You are running os4 on your iPhone aren’t ya

i havnt a clue what its running.

Have you ever connected it to your laptop and synced it with iTunes it will give you and option to update it

I don’t know if this helps or not, but I’ve started to prefer using the navigator on my Nokia N97Mini to my Tomtom.

The Nokia’s routing algorithm seems to favour main-er routes whereas the tomtom is more likely to take a narrower shortcut (both navigators set to “fastest route”). Neither of my devices have a setting for large vehicles. Screen size isn’t an issue as both devices can speak :wink: although the Nokia is better here too, despite the smaller screen, it is possible to zoom out and gain an overview of the roads in the surrounding area. With the Tomtom, if I zoom out the roads disappear :frowning:

The disadvantage is that if someone phones, it’s very distracting to have the traffic directions “right turn ahead” etc at the same time as you’re trying to hear what the person calling is saying, but that’s just a software issue; maybe there’s even an option that I haven’t found to disable these during calls.

I’ve just put copilot on my htc. I’ll see how that goes for a trip from Norwich to Plymouth via Bexley Heath in London. Admitedly it’ll be in a car but it’s more customisable than my garmin nuvi. Last time the Garmin took me past stone henge rather than down the M4. Copilot has already picked the M4 instead.

The Saxmachine:
I’ve just put copilot on my htc. I’ll see how that goes for a trip from Norwich to Plymouth via Bexley Heath in London. Admitedly it’ll be in a car but it’s more customisable than my garmin nuvi. Last time the Garmin took me past stone henge rather than down the M4. Copilot has already picked the M4 instead.

How did the copilot truck app do? worth the money? Im very close to buying this for my iphone

Jamas:

The Saxmachine:
I’ve just put copilot on my htc. I’ll see how that goes for a trip from Norwich to Plymouth via Bexley Heath in London. Admitedly it’ll be in a car but it’s more customisable than my garmin nuvi. Last time the Garmin took me past stone henge rather than down the M4. Copilot has already picked the M4 instead.

How did the copilot truck app do? worth the money? Im very close to buying this for my iphone

I may be wrong but I don’t think the Truck version is available for iPhone.

thing is with the iphone sat navs, yes the phones got a big screen for a phone, but my sat nav screen is bigger than the whole iphone itself

Is there a truck version?

I have the standard UK maps on my Android HTC Wildfire.

So then, Beccles to Plymouth via Bexley Heath, London. 372 Miles or something like that. My cousin tells me to use a diversion which is after Chelmsford to go down the A13 and meet the M25 at the Dartford Bridge to miss any que’s there might be so I go for “find location on map”, select the A13 at some annoying roundabout section, go to the route planner and select optimise stops, everything is in order. The screen is nice and clear, it tells me what type of junction is coming up, how far away and what the junction or next road is called, and it has the next turn above and how far on so I know what lane to select to be ready for the second junction.

So already it’s far more useful than my Garmin Nuvi and has a much more responsive screen even though it has a plastic protector.

Set to quickest it selects motorways over A’s and A’s over B’s. And this is just normal mode, I didn’t even try RV mode. You can customise what type of travel you want, what type of route, and what information you want on the screen too. I don’t believe there is a truck version for Android yet but the route is so easy to customise so if you know where you want to go to get around something it’s not a problem.

Picked up my cousin in Bexley Heath and continued my journey. Direction was to go through central London and 13:30, so we ignored that and went back to the M25, it quickly adjusted and went with us. We only struggled right at the end with finding my other cousins house on the Barbican. It did turn out to be an address only a postman could know.

Got me back to London with no issues. It actually took the M25 route isntead of central London unlike on the outward journey. From Bexley Heath to Enfield, the fastest route was M25, but the shortest was over to the Black wall tunnel and then up to Enfield, 1 minute difference but 20 miles shorter, and at 20:00 I obviously went with the central route.

Route selection is fantastic. It’s very accurate. If you don’t know the address but know where it is you can pick the point on the map and save that as a favourite. I don’t know if the voices are any good, they drive me nuts on any device and I prefer music. But I was able to run the sat nav, my music and receive calls all on my phone with out any issues. On the way to Plymouth my phone did switch itself off twice but I don’t know if it has anything to do with the sat nav, as essentially it is a small computer and therefor has these moments. It had no problems on the way back though.

The GPS finds my location quicker than any sat nav I used so you are up an running in no time. Plus it knows tunnels, so it doesn’t panick that you’ve disappeared off the face of the earth and spend 15 minutes finding you again. If you do lose gps, go to the power widget, switch off gps and turn it back on again, go back to copilot and you’re off.

I think it’s the best sat Nav I’ve used and I’ve used a couple of versions of Tom Tom, Garmin, Road Angel and some others not worth remembering. Copilot is my favourite. £27 I think for UK and Ireland. £40 for all of Europe.

Buy a cradle, run your phone through your stereo and you’ve got everything on one device right in front of you. Just don’t forget to buy a charger (make sure the cradle leaves room for the charger, lots of bundles on amazon don’t actually go together).

In short I’ll be selling my not so customisable, less responsive, far more expensive but not as expensive as tom tom - Garmin Nuvi

Hope this helps. For use on Iphone I guess it’s the same.

I can now confirm the phone switching off unexpectedly has nothing to do with copilot. It’s my media softwhere.

i run co-pilot on my jail breaked iphone as back up only because as good as co-pilot is it doesn’t store the maps internally so any net work problems can leave up the greek of no paddles .