Inward facing cab cameras

alix776:

rambo19:
Tell your guvnor no and you will be out of a job, thats for sure.

I’m a london bus driver and we have had cameras on the driver for years.

With respect Rambo you don’t live in your work place 24 hours aday 5-6 days a week.

My personal view is outward ok inward facing get lost and find someone else who’s been brain washed

Bit of a difference from going home after a few hrs to living in your cab for upto couple months at a time

Also with a bus (or Coach) the passengers can always keep an eye on you whether you like it or not. The addition of cameras wouldn’t really change things. On a truck it’s a different story.

I’ve known passengers note vehicle speeds and report drivers for speeding amongst other minor offences such as having a drink while driving or driving with one hand.

Well fair enough and some are valid points to be honest.

Is it a constant camera all the time?
As a van driver. Yes i dont drive a truck but hooefully one day. I dont understand all layouts of trucks but the truck the company i work for use have cameras based facing forward.onto the road and one on the passenger side facing the driver but the cameras do not set off unless harsh braking or taking corners too quick or a crash but these are covered when drawing the curtains.

Also yes fair enough i do not really want a camera in the house but your driving a company owned vehicle.

Would the camera be on constant on or only when harsh braking■■?

Maybe a company truck but some people call them home a forward facing cam is more then enough

Fair enough. What type of cameras are installed a constant stream or a 30 capture?

DanT_Sxi:
Fair enough. What type of cameras are installed a constant stream or a 30 capture?

Don’t have em over here so don’t know

DanT_Sxi:
If you dont have anything bad to hide then i dont know why you need to worry about these cameras.

Unless your currently doing something wrong or illegal and by installing these cameras you would get caught out.

They are installed in the vans and.work and dont distract me or worry me just leave the equipment to get on with its job.

With regards to sleeping with a camera.

Surely truck curtains will cover the camera up when you are sleeping.

I dont see why everyone is worrying?!?!?!?

You don’t nessessarily have to be doing anthing wrong or illegal, it’s an invasion of Privacy, it’s eyes on your every move…and some makes/models of camera are not just taking a 30 second snap/ footage , some are designed to run on a Lot longer than that constant stream, and like your cab is your second ‘home’ for some drivers, depending upon the the nature of their work/schedule etc.
So why shouldn’t we retain ‘OUR Privacy’, would you want neighbour watch looking through every room in your own house watching your every move!!
And who wants to keep their curtains closed on a realy hot summers evening ‘stifling’, with no air circulation.
And who’s to say that it wouldn’t start a harrisment campain off company bod/whoever else in the office, that may or may not like you, for whatever silly reason.
Sorry if seem to have dronned on a bit :blush: I’m quite friendly realy :smiley: :unamused:

I would hope most were wired to only run when the vehicle is moving. If anyone trots out the old line about the warehouse has CCTV just ask the boss if he has a camera pointed directly at his desk all day.

Harry Monk:

DanT_Sxi:
If you dont have anything bad to hide then i dont know why you need to worry about these cameras.

We used to say that Communism was an evil thing, and one of the reasons most often cited was the excessive state surveillance, including the recording of activities of its citizens.

Perhaps we should now apologise for that stance on the grounds that “if eastern European subjects had nothing to hide, they had nothing to fear”.

Stalin or Honecker could not have dreamt about surveillance on the level that exists in the UK now. Please don’t sleepwalk into accepting it as normal. Nobody driving a truck should have his every working minute monitored.

Only difference between Stalin and Van rumpoy and his EU cronies, is Van rumpoy hasn’t sent anyone to the labour camps in the gulags…YET!

My wife grew up under the communist regime in russia, and she cannot believe the amount of surveillance we have here. The only thing not so bad here YET! is that you can to an extent, trust your friends and family, in old russia, you trusted nobody. Life under the communists was not so very different from life in the west, just that things changed slower than here, but now we far outstrip the russians for public spying, we are becoming a police state.

For 1984 read 2014!

I would not have a problem with in-cab camera’s being active during “WORKING HOURS ONLY”, after all the boss is paying me for that time and in any other job would probably be around watching me anyway. Camera running outside working hours could be a breach of the driving/working hours rules as they require that I am free to dispose of that time as I wish.
In most jobs now there is a high degree of surveillance, often for security reasons but also on H&S grounds where there is danger or lone workers. Most supermarkets now have very sophisticated camera systems where each checkout has a camera (Look above your head!) that monitors the operator and the customer to help reduce fraud. (Cover the card reader keypad when you enter your PIN, the camera can see it!) Every aisle in our local new Tesco superstore has a camera at each end and these are monitored by security staff who are clearly on view at the entrance. They catch on average 20 shoplifters a day with a peak of over 100 one day!
I have camera’s around my house that record 24/7, after 2 burglaries a few years ago I had these installed and have not had problem since. I even have one camera pointing at my neighbours house at his request. Nobody has ever complained about the camera’s being there.
Wherever you go these days you will never be out of the view of a CCTV camera for very long, TBH I am very happy to see them there and would like to see more, even in my cab. All our local taxi drivers now have them and already one prosecution for serious assault on a cab-driver has seen the yob sent to prison, this was featured on national TV very recently.

Well maybe they can be connected in a way it only works while the vehicle is moving but the ones we have in the van are 24/7

And with regards to some tesco stores

The cameras by the checkouts also monitor how many people are waiting and going through and also what items are going through on certain tills.

Dress like Mr D B gumby, knotted hanky on head, moustache, whits shirt, braces, trousers rolled up to your knees, and wellys on, look straight at the camera and say “HELLOOOOOO I’m an idiot!”
next day dress as Batman. Next day as Juan sheet, then in a giant ape costume, keep them guessing, all the time scratching yourself and acting like a total fool!

truckerjon:
Dress like Mr D B gumby, knotted hanky on head, moustache, whits shirt, braces, trousers rolled up to your knees, and wellys on, look straight at the camera and say “HELLOOOOOO I’m an idiot!”
next day dress as Batman. Next day as Juan sheet, then in a giant ape costume, keep them guessing, all the time scratching yourself and acting like a total fool!

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Genius :laughing:

Martin:
Most supermarkets now have very sophisticated camera systems where each checkout has a camera (Look above your head!) that monitors the operator and the customer

But if a checkout operator is caught short, they ring a bell/put on light to be relieved - they’re not likey to pee in a bottle!

Maybe inward facing cameras are a good thing in taxi’s, incase of assult , damage etc, but that is a different senario, but as most trucks are not used as taxis, and why should we all live & work under the constant surveillance scrutiny.

How can you compare the local supermarket and taxis to living in a truck!!! Sure you got cams at home but not looking into your living room are they?? Its a case of big brother UK gone mad every part of your lifes over there is caught on tape somewhere

rambo19:
Tell your guvnor no and you will be out of a job, thats for sure.

I’m a london bus driver and we have had cameras on the driver for years.

Only because some bus drivers were on the take from the cash box Rambo! :laughing:

rautio:
My old firm had a camera that faced inside and outside the cab. It’s made by smart drive. What is does is, it constantly records and deletes itself. Your manager cannot watch a live stream of you or watch the whole of your shift at a later date. The camera has a panic button you press which keeps 15 seconds before and after you press it, so a 30 second clip.

It is also sensitive so if you break sharply, take a roundabout too fast it will automatically keep those clips. A red light flashes so you know its being recorded and saved and can be viewed later.

Too sensitive for a mid shift Barclays then… :open_mouth:

Just cover the lens and play dumb honest christ you lot make mountains out of mole hills

rambo19:
Tell your guvnor no and you will be out of a job, thats for sure.

I’m a london bus driver and we have had cameras on the driver for years.

They fitted them to busses whilst I was still driving, the coat used to be hung to conveniently cover them.