Intimidation

Tipper Tom:
OP perhaps now you’ll see that driving faster in a dangerous situation is seldom the correct thing to do.

Well that’s rubbish. If speeding up was his quickest route out of danger as it looks like it may have been then that’s the best bet. Too many peoples first reaction in this country is to hit the brakes and cause problems, slip roads being a prime example, I saw a artic stopped at the end of the slip the other day as he had failed to pull out on a fairly quiet motorway (was it you?!) You seem to think this man should have slowed down then sped up just right to slot into the gap behind the truck and the one following, when to me it looks like the safest option was to get out the way sharpish, which he did. Motorway driving skills in this country are ■■■■ poor, from everyone.

He’s just getting grief because he went to go in front, which makes you enemy number one amongst the Trucknet Elite Driving Force. He saw a situation, did what he thought was best in the event. Speed up, slow down, both can be the correct course of action depending on the circumstances. But maybe I’m just lacking experience…

No Luke I think you’ve missed my point.

Get into the hard shoulder as he did, lose some speed to give the artic driver plenty of room to make his mistake then rejoin in a safe gap.

The OP in my opinion allowed himself to enter Into a contest with the other driver.

How can you tell me that racing another driver in the hard shoulder is the safest course of action.

I had no choice it was my only option. What a load of ■■■■. If he was in a position where he had no options his driving put him there.

Speed is not always the answer.

I don’t think it’s just motorway driving skills in this country that are ■■■■ poor. It’s situational awareness, lane discipline, road positioning and every other aspect of driving.

‘Racing the other driver’?! I didn’t see any of that in his post. What I’m actually telling you is the safest course of action is the one that allows him to exit the hard shoulder the quickest, be that speeding up or slowing down. Saying he was racing the other driver is just silly.

He said he HAD to “floor it” to get in front.

Once he’s in the hard shoulder the immediate danger is a lane away and he has time to react is a controlled sensible manner. He didn’t, I assume because his ego got in the way. I don’t think I’m far off the mark judging by the attitude of the OP in his other posts

My point is the safest course of action is the one that allows him to to get out of the hard shoulder the SAFEST not necessarily the quickest

Tipper Tom:
I used to think Mike was a bit if a knob tbh. But actually more of what he says makes sense the more experienced I get.

Thanks for that !! :smiley:

I went for honesty

Now you’re just being pedantic over his use of language. Had to/needed to/judged it safest to, who cares. Read what I said, I said sometimes slowing is best, sometimes speeding up. Saying someone is racing or its because of their ego if they choose the latter really is a bit daft I’m afraid. I doubt he had much time to consider his ego or decide he fancied a race. We weren’t there, so you telling him he was wrong is pointless, you don’t know if he was or not

switchlogic:
‘Racing the other driver’?! I didn’t see any of that in his post. What I’m actually telling you is the safest course of action is the one that allows him to exit the hard shoulder the quickest, be that speeding up or slowing down. Saying he was racing the other driver is just silly.

Actually Luke, as you read his posts it turns out the story changes. Here’s what i see and read…
Lorry flashing past, not past yet, i expected him to tuck back in, i floored it to get past him because he was drifting over towards me. Now it transpires that there’ another artic up his arse, so no way was he expecting him to pull back in. Like i said above, if anyone wants to play chicken with them then good luck. I know what i’d do, and i’m sure most know what to do to keep safe.
I like the way in very general that people are giving reasons for not slowing down. The classic now appears to be …there was someone behind me. Makes me split my sides every time !!:smiley:
Oh, i’m very silly. He was racing the other driver. Unless of course the artic behind him was watching the scenario unfold ad decided to press on and they where actually trying to kill him?
How to make a drama out of a mini crisis !!!

Tipper Tom:
I went for honesty

Can’t knock ya for that !!

One of the worst things to do on a motorway is dither sometimes ths best thing to do is to floor it and get out of the way. Think I may have done the same thing as the op seems to me he made the right choice and got out of there

Mike-C:

switchlogic:
‘Racing the other driver’?! I didn’t see any of that in his post. What I’m actually telling you is the safest course of action is the one that allows him to exit the hard shoulder the quickest, be that speeding up or slowing down. Saying he was racing the other driver is just silly.

Actually Luke, as you read his posts it turns out the story changes. Here’s what i see and read…
Lorry flashing past, not past yet, i expected him to tuck back in, i floored it to get past him because he was drifting over towards me. Now it transpires that there’ another artic up his arse, so no way was he expecting him to pull back in. Like i said above, if anyone wants to play chicken with them then good luck. I know what i’d do, and i’m sure most know what to do to keep safe.
I like the way in very general that people are giving reasons for not slowing down. The classic now appears to be …there was someone behind me. Makes me split my sides every time !!:smiley:
Oh, i’m very silly. He was racing the other driver. Unless of course the artic behind him was watching the scenario unfold ad decided to press on and they where actually trying to kill him?
How to make a drama out of a mini crisis !!!

Fair enough, cant say I digested it that deeply. I still maintain the truck driver was a Muppet that cant plan ahead though, all too common a sight on todays roads

switchlogic:
I still maintain the truck driver was a Muppet that cant plan ahead though, all too common a sight on todays roads

I make you right there.

No argument here either

slow down let him pass, makes for a easier day people

I saw a artic stopped at the end of the slip the other day as he had failed to pull out on a fairly quiet motorway (was it you

Hi Luke (switchlogic) . Just playing the devil’s advocate. To be fair in response to Tipper Tom you did point out Tipper Tom wasn’t there so how could he know the true circumstances? I thought about that and it’s a good point, so further considering your example of the driver failing to join the carriageway without stopping: perhaps he/she had encountered a batch of traffic that caused the stop followed by the quiet bit, had a sneezing fit, anything :smiley:? If you pressed on and judgement didn’t keep up in the race with fortune, and there was a change of paintwork, you may be on the hind foot to explain as you were crossing a give way line to joint the carriageway.

Also Tipper Tom did say something along the lines of - seldom is speeding up a good thing. Perhaps he wasn’t negating the actions totally, just airing caution. I don’t know.

I’m wincing to write this. It’s only chit chat points not meant to stir. I’ve stumbled across your vids and think they’re really good. The top tips has helped no end as I’m heading back to do some driving on the side after a 10 year break. Keep up the good work!

On Saturday M1 northbound near Northampton an artic flatbed in front of me dived onto the hard shoulder, I thought he had a problem, but no he was overtaking a terrified old dear in an ancient Corsa bimbling along at about 50. When the overtake was complete he gave her a brake test and hazard warning lights. What a moron as the middle lane was actually clear during the whole manouvre. If I had a dash cam I would have shopped him in.

I’ve never witnessed anything like that ^^^^^ but my first guess would be catastrophic inattention from the lorry driver resulting in a panic last minute swerve. No excuse at all, he’s probably one of them fools stuck behind a tractor on a D/C.

I don’t think the driver deserves any benefit of the doubt in this case ■■■■ poor driving and coming the big man in a lorry.