In or Out- the EU referendum mega thread

Evil8Beezle:

tommy t:
Any one watching question time on the bias broadcasting corporation ? they think the leave and remain should unite,lol getting sick of their propaganda a planted panel’s and audiences glad i don’t pay the tv tax and as long as they broadcast this tripe, i won’t ever pay it

Yep, Bollox, Bollox, Bollox! :imp:
It appears we are being told that Theresa May is our next PM. :cry:

that ■■■■■ ,■■■■■. which Shouldn’t be in politicts never mind PM she would take us into 1984 at the drop of a hat except some of her ridiculous ideas (IP bill) that are unworkable and would not enable them GCHQ to detect or intercept messages contained in (packets) of data , sent and received , be that from organised criminals , peado’s or terrorists, If you can be bothered to check Andrews & Arnold’s ( ISP) MD’s blog http://www.revk.uk/ Explains the case against her ideology better and in detail

Evil8Beezle:

tommy t:
Any one watching question time on the bias broadcasting corporation ? they think the leave and remain should unite,lol getting sick of their propaganda a planted panel’s and audiences glad i don’t pay the tv tax and as long as they broadcast this tripe, i won’t ever pay it

Yep, Bollox, Bollox, Bollox! :imp:
It appears we are being told that Theresa May is our next PM. :cry:

You better like her, at least she is educated and not former communist leader security guard :laughing: :grimacing:

Carryfast:

tommy t:
Any one watching question time on the bias broadcasting corporation ? they think the leave and remain should unite,lol getting sick of their propaganda a planted panel’s and audiences glad i don’t pay the tv tax and as long as they broadcast this tripe, i won’t ever pay it

Blimey you must have a strong stomach to be able to watch that zb.

Let me guess ‘unite’ on the grounds of non existent Leave lies about getting back our net contributions and spending them at home.While staying in and being guaranteed to losing them to be spent in Europe is supposedly better.

Or that being guaranteed to have to comply with EU free movement rules is supposedly better than probably having to fight the lying zb Cons for them to be removed without the excuse of EU memebrship being there any longer.While Cameron gets away with saying that he’s all for Turkish membership in 2010 and supposedly no chance to suit his referendum campaign.

Here’s a clue for the remainers.You lost get over it.Let’s get article 50 signed,or better by pass it altogether on grounds of national security and get out of this zb federal zb pile ASAP.

I feel sorry for those who are within earshot of me when this ■■■■ is being broadcast the tv is lucky it was expensive and is quite good, :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :grimacing: and Henry Weston doesn’t help them much.

Where do they keep finding all these morons from? redacted as could be un politically correct , and we don’t want to go there ,just yet that has to be next though

Dolph:
You better like her, at least she is educated and not former communist leader security guard :laughing: :grimacing:

Thanks for trying to cheer my up Dolph! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
We are up crap creek in a colander…

tommy t:
and Henry Weston doesn’t help them much.

Old Rosie for PM! :grimacing:

Evil8Beezle:

Dolph:
You better like her, at least she is educated and not former communist leader security guard :laughing: :grimacing:

Thanks for trying to cheer my up Dolph! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
We are up crap creek in a colander…

We should let the people decide what we agree to, by yet another refferendum (oh ■■) :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: or introduce a constitution system

Evil8Beezle:

tommy t:
and Henry Weston doesn’t help them much.

Old Rosie for PM! :grimacing:

Can’t get that but the vintage @ 8.2% 3 for £5 both Morrison’s and Asda have the offer on , Katy thatcher ain’t bad either,lol Our establishment could do with a session on it , they would probably do a better job when ■■■■■■ than they do sober

tommy t:

Evil8Beezle:

tommy t:
and Henry Weston doesn’t help them much.

Old Rosie for PM! :grimacing:

Can’t get that but the vintage @ 8.2% 3 for £5 both Morrison’s and Asda have the offer on , Katy thatcher ain’t bad either,lol Our establishment could do with a session on it , they would probably do a better job when ■■■■■■ than they do sober

LOL, a bit off topic but refreshing! :grimacing:
I can get all of those in my Morrisons, and the only ciders worth the name in my opinion…
But yes they should get ■■■■■■ and have to answer questions like that, they may start speaking the truth! :imp:

tommy t:
that ■■■■■ ,■■■■■.

Oi, thats your next prime minister you’re talking about! :grimacing:

tommy t:
the tv is lucky it was expensive and is quite good,

:laughing:

The-Snowman:

tommy t:
that ■■■■■ ,■■■■■.

Oi, thats your next prime minister you’re talking about! :grimacing:

tommy t:
the tv is lucky it was expensive and is quite good,

:laughing:

Not bloody likely, she is also a pro EU and remainer how can someone like her , negotiate in the best interest of the people of this country ( those same people she is supposed to work for) ? that’s the piratical and common sense side of the argument , but in the torie self serving side ( assuming they collude) they will be ousted come the next GE if not before then if she becomes PM,( tv still working and un blemished ) :grimacing:

tommy t:
she would take us into 1984 at the drop of a hat

+1.

While the silence from UKIP is deafening.The only silver lining being that the working class will increasingly realise that the EU was never in it for their interests.Bearing in mind that like Thatcher was and Cameron she is a remainer.It’s just that EEA membership instead of EU adds even more opportunities to take advantage of cheap labour both in terms of immigration policy and imports from cheap labour countries.

tommy t:
she is also a pro EU and remainer how can someone like her , negotiate in the best interest of the people of this country ( those same people she is supposed to work for) ? that’s the piratical and common sense side of the argument , but in the torie self serving side ( assuming they collude) they will be ousted come the next GE if not before then if she becomes PM,( tv still working and un blemished ) :grimacing:

Look on the bright side this could be just what we need in waking up the unions to the need for a strong Eurosceptic Labour Party.Like the one we should have had in 1975. :bulb: :unamused: :frowning:

On that note we need Hoey in place now to take this zb Thatcher mark 2 on.Meanwhile it’s the same old failed Socialist v Tory zb.

Carryfast:

tommy t:
she is also a pro EU and remainer how can someone like her , negotiate in the best interest of the people of this country ( those same people she is supposed to work for) ? that’s the piratical and common sense side of the argument , but in the torie self serving side ( assuming they collude) they will be ousted come the next GE if not before then if she becomes PM,( tv still working and un blemished ) :grimacing:

Look on the bright side this could be just what we need in waking up the unions to the need for a strong Eurosceptic Labour Party.Like the one we should have had in 1975. :bulb: :unamused: :frowning:

On that note we need Hoey in place now to take this zb Thatcher mark 2 on.Meanwhile it’s the same old failed Socialist v Tory zb.

that is also partly responsible for the situation we are now in, No competition the tories very quickly get ideas of grandeur ( similar to the EU) :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :laughing: But the lemmings that watch and take whatever the bbc and channel 4 broadcast in the uk sky maybe another source of the same propaganda machine because of where rupee’s financial interests lie,( he was a remainer too?) as the truth and never question that, because they really trust a politician,This is the bewildered ■■■■■■■■■■■ of people that you end up with who are still defending the indefensible , i always though the human race was the most intelligent species on planet earth , but this sort of thing raises some doubts

tommy t:

Carryfast:
On that note we need Hoey in place now to take this zb Thatcher mark 2 on.Meanwhile it’s the same old failed Socialist v Tory zb.

that is also partly responsible for the situation we are now in, No competition the tories very quickly get ideas of grandeur ( similar to the EU) :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :laughing: But the lemmings that watch and take whatever the bbc and channel 4 broadcast in the uk sky maybe another source of the same propaganda machine because of where rupee’s financial interests lie,( he was a remainer too?) as the truth and never question that, because they really trust a politician,This is the bewildered ■■■■■■■■■■■ of people that you end up with who are still defending the indefensible , i always though the human race was the most intelligent species on planet earth , but this sort of thing raises some doubts

To be fair this was always going to be a difficult minefield to get through from the point of view of the Eurosceptic Labour vote.The typical Tory trick of a remain Con PM now taking over from Cameron and taking us out of the EU into the EEA on that ticket is just part of that.The flaw for the Cons being that Labour Eurosceptic vote ain’t going away and will hopefully,probably,be bright enough to know that the EU ( now probably EEA for us :unamused: :frowning: ) is the problem not the solution.With the win win for people like Hoey being that we can point to a remainer,not leaver like Davis, still being at the controls and the fact that we haven’t effectively left the EU,when the zb hits the fan under the new Con administration. :bulb:

Well it’s one thing them wanting to secure trade deals with other non eu countries first before starting the exit timer but what evidence is there that they are doing anything yet , or have these idiots still not got it,? of how we the people feel and what we expect ,? any trade agreement with that dictatorship that we have left( in all but red tape) should not involve freedom of movement , if it does we better reject it , we have 2yrs + to apply further pressure, merkel’s people want to sell their cars to us don’t they ?
Or we change the laws , so EU migrants get no access to benefits, nothing, or free non emergency medical treatment ( we are no longer in the eu)
The importance of a constitution seems to be growing on me, as that could be what is needed here

tommy t:
Well it’s one thing them wanting to secure trade deals with other non eu countries first before starting the exit timer but what evidence is there that they are doing anything yet , or have these idiots still not got it,? of how we the people feel and what we expect ,? any trade agreement with that dictatorship that we have left( in all but red tape) should not involve freedom of movement , if it does we better reject it , we have 2yrs + to apply further pressure, merkel’s people want to sell their cars to us don’t they ?
Or we change the laws , so EU migrants get no access to benefits, nothing, or free non emergency medical treatment ( we are no longer in the eu)
The importance of a constitution seems to be growing on me, as that could be what is needed here

As I said EFTA membership. ‘but not’ EEA membership,would give us all the tools we need to get the job done and it wouldn’t take anything like 2 years to sort those two out.While we’re already trading outside the EU.But if the Cons go for EEA we’re stuffed because all the rules we’ve voted to leave behind will still apply.Which is why Switzerland is out of EEA and is now in the middle of an argument with the EU in which they are being held to ransom over the trade issue.Which the EU obviously can’t do to us because we buy too much from them as opposed to what they buy from us.

We’re in a brilliant position here to smash the EU’s historic blackmail scam of trade in exchange for sovereignty.

If only we had a decent government which was up to the job.As opposed to being dedicated to the cheap labour agenda of the bankers and/or the socialist agenda of Labour. :imp: :unamused: :frowning:

Reckon I’m in the minority thinking Theresa is the best man for the job.

Although there’s a few of us that can see why Article 50 hasn’t been triggered for those struggling here’s a flawed analogy.

Imagine you shopped at Tesco and where also a shareholder that although costing a bit extra gave you special privileges and discounts.
Now as a shareholder you also had the option to go and move into any other shareholders house and live with them and vice versa. But even though other shareholders had bigger houses yours was the nicest and a lot wanted to move in, even some non shareholders where trying to sneak in through the back door.

Right so you’ve had enough and no longer want to be a shareholder but you are also one of Tesco’s best customers.

Tesco is not happy about this but due to your spending power would be foolish to stop you coming in.
In fact Tesco still want you to accept lodgers which is the main reason you want to leave as your house is getting a bit full and the home owners are getting ■■■■■■ off with all the dodgy folk moving in and ■■■■■■■■ in the sink.

Bugger this you say, we will now decide who moves in but still spend our hard earned coppers in Tesco so shouldn’t be an issue.

Tesco is not happy with this and now want you to trigger article 50 and the other shareholders will decide for you what the best options are.

Bollox to this you say we ain’t triggering nothing until you’ve accepted our terms. If you don’t we will shop at Asda or the other supermarkets that we haven’t been able to shop at whilst locked into Tesco.

Course everyone living at our house already is welcome to stay but new lodgers require our permission.

Only problem here is they couldn’t run a bath never mind a country except into the ground maybe And we can’t trust may to get the best deal from the EU ,They are spending to much time dwelling over single market access, If that comes with the condition of freedom of movement , which is what is being said so far ( according to our media) then that isn’t going to happen , so they should be getting on with the job of getting deals with non EU countries in place, go the WTO route , stick the two fingers up at the Brussels dictatorship , we aren’t tied to the EU

As for those EU nationals already here who have been here for at least 12mths any benefits in work or child benefit would be reviewed within 6mths and may cease to be paid , those who haven’t been here for 12mths, or allowed to enter once outside eu no benefits payable and health insurance would be required

My comments were obviously equally subtly directed at Munchkin and Del Trotter. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Well if that was subtle… :wink:

Must say Gove has surprised me, didn’t think he had that sort of ruthlessness about him. He’d make an ideal assassin, blends into the background and stabs Boris in the back.
The corridors of power and the gentlemen’s clubs must have been interesting places on Wed night :smiling_imp: :wink:
Shades of the dealings that made Jim hacker P.M.