In or Out- the EU referendum mega thread

Nope. Just heard him say he won’t run.

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Looooo:
Nope. Just heard him say he won’t run.

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What a knob sack…Would have been the ideal person for it…

Swampey2418:
Boris’s hats in the ring

No it’s not! :open_mouth:
He’s just picked it up! :laughing:

Reluctant to go down in history as the PM who presided over Britain stress testing itself to the point of destruction?

Maybe he still will. Half an hr is a long time in politics at the mo.

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Or “knifed” by Gove they are saying now.

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This is laughable complaints against what farage has said being recorded as a hate crime this is where the gutter media get their ammo from ? But they may well witness some real hates crimes in the future if nothing is done about the amount of people coming into this country legally or illegally

Oh yeah, because Nige is inciting or telling people to be racist. :unamused:
Sounds a lot like sour grapes to me and retaliatory hate crimes being committed against Nige! :laughing:
The man has a right to free speech and I’ve yet to hear him incite racism…

Looks like Boris has identified the poisoned chalice…

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UKIP mega-donor plans new political party... without Nigel Farage — RT UK News Seems like he wants a cluster ■■ of a party too without farage ukip would be FA
Do they want be in with any chance of wining at the next GE or not? as without farage they will stand no chance, Why the sudden change someone offered arron bank’s a big bung to allow the ukip party to implode or something ?

tommy t:
UKIP mega-donor plans new political party... without Nigel Farage — RT UK News Seems like he wants a cluster [zb] of a party too without farage ukip would be FA
Do they want be in with any chance of wining at the next GE or not? as without farage they will stand no chance, Why the sudden change someone offered arron bank’s a big bung to allow the ukip party to implode or something ?

I would guess that he wants a puppet leader, and doesn’t think he can control Nige…

Munchkin:

Carryfast:
More BBC propaganda now pushing the new Star Trek film.Which no surprise contains a story line about the aggression of the evil anti federalists against the good federation.Which equally no surprise was then linked to the situation of Brexit v the EU. :unamused:

Stalin would have been proud.

OK, so the Remain campaign persuaded Paramount Pictures start on this film 3 years ago at a cost of $150M just so they could release it in July 2016 just as things were starting to shake out after the referendum did they ?

As a conspiracy theory it’s a cracker !

No.I was clearly referring to the ‘BBC’ in typical Tass style form ‘making the connection’ between the story line and Brexit. :unamused:

As for the Federation being the good guys v bad Nationalists that’s been the basis of the subliminal message contained in the whole Star Trek exercise from the start.Probably as part of it’s ongoing indoctrination programme based on the fear of all Federations of secession and self determination in that case obviously mostly for domestic consumption.

Unless of course secession suits it such as in the form of secession of the Yugoslav states to be added to the EU empire. :unamused:

On that note this would obviously be the answer to such total utter zb.IE who could possibly not have been on the side of those who fought for Wallace’s cause here.IE nation over the aggression of the federation.

youtube.com/watch?v=z2H7EyOTpGA

Is the pound and the economy holding only because article 50 is not activated yet. What will happen, will the market/economy/investment/jobs be hurt massively once the article is announced?

joe.co.uk/news/youre-going-t … know/68977

Looooo:
Puts hand up at back of class

Excuse me Mr. Carryfast Sir, I’m a bit unclear as to where you stand on this. Are you in favour of Nation States or Federations? Also,could you explain the difference between a federation and a confederation?

Runs for fire escape

And to think they allow people like you to vote. :open_mouth: :unamused: :frowning:

In a referendum regards secession so that some poor kids in the future don’t have to go out to die for such stupidity.

Nation State means what it says the sovereign independent nation states of Europe which obviously hold ‘full’ sovereignty over their own policies within their own borders.

Federation means the dissolution of the Nation State and its sovereignty in favour of pooled sovereignty in which no state holds supreme sovereignty over policy within its own National borders.Because effectively those National borders and National governments no longer exist.The Federation,in the form of majority vote and/or presidential power across the federation, holds the supreme sovereignty.You know like Hitler’s third reich or Stalin’s Soviet Union and satellite ‘empire’ or Tito’s Yugoslavia or now Juncker’s EU.

Confederation means ‘conditional’ ( or ‘contra’ depending on point of view ) federation.IE combining the best of both worlds by retaining the Nation State sovereignty of the individual states within the ‘outline framework of Federation’.IE co operation among states based on the idea of friends with fences and consent not dictat.Which is more or less how the American constitution was ‘meant’ to be.Until it killed loads of its own people in a war to force through Federation instead of Confederation. :unamused:

On that note I’m obviously in favour of both the Nation State or Confederation being that they are both effectively the same thing with Confederation being the closer idea to what Churchill was describing at the end of WW2.As opposed to Altiero Spinelli’s Communist ideas.

Dipper_Dave:
■■■■■ Theresa you’ve got this, your the only one with the balls to take on Merkel.

Let’s face it we need a strong woman again and your both a pair of double baggers.

As my all time heroic woman would say “The lady’s not for turning”.

Blimey another female Conservative MP that’s all we bleedin need.What could possibly go wrong. :open_mouth: Although maybe slightly less Europhile than the last one she wasn’t exactly on the side of GO. :unamused:

On that note picture the scene she goes in for a row with Merkel and comes out best of friends saying we’re staying in the EU we need to listen more to what women say. :unamused: :laughing:

Dolph:
Is the pound and the economy holding only because article 50 is not activated yet. What will happen, will the market/economy/investment/jobs be hurt massively once the article is announced?

joe.co.uk/news/youre-going-t … know/68977

that would depend on what other trade agreements with non EU countries we have negotiated by that time, The single market isn’t the holy grail that the the pro eu media would have you believe, and if they won’t agree to us controlling our borders ect then there will be no deal

Carryfast:

Dipper_Dave:
■■■■■ Theresa you’ve got this, your the only one with the balls to take on Merkel.

Let’s face it we need a strong woman again and your both a pair of double baggers.

As my all time heroic woman would say “The lady’s not for turning”.

Blimey another female Conservative MP that’s all we bleedin need.What could possibly go wrong. :open_mouth: Although maybe slightly less Europhile than the last one she wasn’t exactly on the side of GO. :unamused:

On that note picture the scene she goes in for a row with Merkel and comes out best of friends saying we’re staying in the EU we need to listen to what women say. :unamused: :laughing:

She is pro EU and voted for remain, she failed this country, regarding border controls /migration , she wants control over the internet and seeks to invade our rights of privacy with her IP bill the woman is a lunatic , we seriously do not want her as PM , only plus side is that the Tories would loose at the next GE as a result ,if she continued with her 1984 type quest

Stanley Knife:
Gove’s thrown his hat in the ring for the PM’s job - and he’s not best happy with Boris.

Meanwhile Angela Eagle has challenged Corbyn for his job as, in typical Labour understanding of democracy, the MP’s democracy is more democratic than the members democracy.

Pull up a chair, this is going to be fun. :stuck_out_tongue:

Just when the country is crying out for a David Davis/Kate Hoey led co alition hopefully with Farage somehow in there somewhere what do we get.Lumbered with a lame duck Cameron keeping hold of article 50,Corbyn still in opposition and a row between the latest bunch of no hopers,over which of them takes over from Cameron and Corbyn next.While they all play for time in doing what they can to keep us in the zb EU. :imp: :unamused: :frowning:

tommy t:
She is pro EU and voted for remain, she failed this country, regarding border controls /migration , she wants control over the internet and seeks to invade our rights of privacy with her IP bill the woman is a lunatic , we seriously do not want her as PM , only plus side is that the Tories would loose at the next GE as a result ,if she continued with her 1984 type quest

That’s more or less how I see it.Another Thatcher in a different dress. :imp: :open_mouth:

Dolph:
Is the pound and the economy holding only because article 50 is not activated yet. What will happen, will the market/economy/investment/jobs be hurt massively once the article is announced?

Which would obviously be confirmation that the bankers are betting ( more like have been given the nod ) on a hidden agenda to over turn the vote.Surely it can’t be because Cameron has said that it must hold.Oh wait surely if Cameron said so it can’t possibly be true. :unamused:

Carryfast:

Dolph:
Is the pound and the economy holding only because article 50 is not activated yet. What will happen, will the market/economy/investment/jobs be hurt massively once the article is announced?

Which would obviously be confirmation that the bankers are betting ( more like have been given the nod ) on a hidden agenda to over turn the vote.Surely it can’t be because Cameron has said that it must hold.Oh wait surely if Cameron said so it can’t possibly be true. :unamused:

So now you blame EU for UK not willing to initiate article 50 :laughing: :grimacing: