desypete:
Muckaway:
Why do people keep replying to Carryfast? Just select him as a “foe” and then these threads will be much shorter and easier to read. Or you could ignore him altogether.
why ? he makes a bloody good argument for anyone, i see him regularly get ganged up on around here by the so called super keyboard warriors he keeps them running around in there circles like a pack of old women.
its not so easy to stand up to the mob so i take my hat of to carryfast for just plodding on and giving far more then ever gets
i seen one moron jumping up and down having dug through god knows how many past posts looking for something at all anything that has carryfasts name on it so he could publicly post it up on here like its some sort of victory ?
so carry on posting carryfast we can all see who the gang are on the site who act like a pack of women they know who they are to bunch of fairys the lot of them
Wow! A love affair between Desypete and Carryfast…just think what the offspring would be like…ugh!
the nodding donkey:
Carryfast:
On that note reversal of the result in parliament seems the most likely result now.Obviously helped by Cameron’s holding onto the article 50 declaration and keeping it out of the hands of anyone even remotely likely to invoke it.
Another U-turn. Are you Cameron’s policy advisor?
Only a remainer could try to turn,the statement of fact.That we can’t stop a democratic referendum decision being overturned by the Federalist zb’s in the government and their bolshevik supporters,as a U turn.
Also bearing in mind that I obviously wouldn’t be on the side of the zb Bolshevik/Federalist forces when it all inevitably implodes like Yugoslavia did at some point in the future.If only I’d still be around and/or young enough to help the secessionist forces at the time. 
robroy:
I have not read the entire thread. (lifes to short to read the gospel according to Carryfast) so am unaware of the concencus of opinion on here on Nigel Farage (although I am confident that Carryfast will fill me in, in his own inimitable way )
Just listened to Nigel Farage’s speech to the Euro Parliament, it was a Corporal Jones special (‘‘They don’t like it up em’’ 
)
He’s just told them none of them have had a proper job or ran a business and told them that trade between the UK and Europe is not one sided but mutually beneficial.
He also brought up Merkel’s unlimited immigration policy to a few uncomfortable looking, as well as smiling faces.
He got many boos at the end, but also some standing ovations.
Check it out if you get the chance.
Whether you like him or not, he says it like it is, and is not afraid of speaking his mind, even if it is to the detrement of others.
It’s a pity he did not have the qualification to run for PM, contraversial I know, but the sort of guy that I personally like.
Btw I’ve removed my drunken rant post I did last night, posted after the England v Iceland. game
…sorry guys 
just passionate about football.
i havent seen that yet what channel is it on ?but i agree with you on your post there must be something in the air if we are agreeing
but its what won me over with farage is he speaks the truth and has never been a coward to say thing like there are to many people coming over here, he got the hate mob in full swing trying to discredit him its not so easy being the person so many want to destroy but he did so as he believed in what he was about and others could see it to
he is no racist at all he is not a kick em out type of bnp rubbish it was always about the british people and wanting to stuff the eu up the Germans arse
we should have a full parliament of people like farage who will stand up for the people and say it how it really is not the pack of political correct who just play with words and there meaning in a way to lie and lie again
anyway credit were credit is due farage is the main man around the political world and i hope people can at least see that in the guy and get off this idea he is some sort of hittler or evil in anyway just because they want to try to keep an open door to anyone and everyone who wants to come here
its those people who need to change they way they think and just get real
the more who come here the less there is to go around already the huge cracks are showing all around the country except for the citys or areas of high migrants for some reason they seem to be in a different country then the rest of us
it really is divided this country, rich / poor / black /white and all anyone can do to try to settle things is to pull the other side down to bits, racist scum to non racist scum, who go around acting like racist scum to those who they think are racist scum.
Stanley Knife:
Cameron and Corbyn have always been ‘leavers’, Corbyn to the point whereby he has voted against it at every opportunity. They had a choice to follow the establishment line or not, and they chose the former and get no respect from me for that.
Boris, on the other hand, has always been a europhile and chose Vote Leave purely as a means of getting Cameron’s job. Just your typical politician really.
If Corbyn and Cameron are supposedly sceptics they are doing a bleedin good job of just pretending to be remainers. 
Seriously Cameron is a carbon copy of Heath just like Ken Clarke is.
While Corbyn is ideologically crippled to the point where he can’t take any other possible position than Socialist Soviet Unionist/Federalist just like Tito was.No surprise that he’s totally onside the ongoing project to build Spinelli’s version of the Yugoslav Federation in Europe in that case.Sadly with no reason to think that it won’t end up in the same,but obviously proportionally bigger,Secessionist v Federalist and inter ethnic implosion in the long term.
Just watching our Nigel’s gloat fest and I can’t help feel there’s a negotiation team somewhere facepalming their ■■■■■ off.
Got to hand it to him though any chance of an amicable divorce is now out the question, probably not a bad thing as some assertiveness is needed.
Just glad I’m not Dave Cameron who has to appear as the follow up act on the Brexit show. Talk about an awkward lunch.
robroy:
Wow! A love affair between Desypete and Carryfast…just think what the offspring would be like…ugh!
More like just two real Labour supporters agreeing.While unfortunately the irony is we’ve got the real little Englanders in the form of stupid naive indoctrinated youngsters who’ve got no real familiarity with Europe’s history and its people.Who’ve been given matches fuses and dynamite to play with in the form of Socialist ideology driven Federalism.IE this really ain’t a larf its frightening and its serious. 
Dipper_Dave:
Just watching our Nigel’s gloat fest and I can’t help feel there’s a negotiation team somewhere facepalming their ■■■■■ off.
Got to hand it to him though any chance of an amicable divorce is now out the question, probably not a bad thing as some assertiveness is needed.
Just glad I’m not Dave Cameron who has to appear as the follow up act on the Brexit show tomorrow. Talk about an awkward lunch.
To be fair Dipper, I can’t see what he said or how he gloated being detrimental. They wan’t to ride us like they are ■■■■■■ us, and Nige said fine, it’s lined with sandpaper if you want a go… 
Surprising how much support he had, the UK isn’t alone in wanting to leave the worst club ever.
desypete:
i seen one moron jumping up and down having dug through god knows how many past posts looking for something at all anything that has carryfasts name on it so he could publicly post it up on here like its some sort of victory ?
Gosh desy, whomever could you mean?
Rather than bashing out “sharp comments”,browsing right wing websites and kissing your nigel farage poster, maybe you should spend some time reading this
skillsyouneed.com/write/punctuation1.html.
It might make things easier to read and therefor easier to understand.
BTW, it is “some sort of victory” since you can never trust the word of a hypocrite. And I can assure you I wasnt jumping up and down. I would have spilled my tea
Incidently, just to go off euro topic for a mo, am I being cynical in finding it strange that boredwivdrivin, immigrant and pimpdaddy disappear off the face of the forum and all of a sudden desypete and malcolmgbell reappear? Its almost like one computer failed so another was dug up that had other log ins on it.
Or maybe im just being paranoid. Its just BWD and desy are very similar in writing styles. Lower case i, posts devoid of full stops or commas and a sort of ranting style that makes you imagine an overweight,balding guy sitting at a computer in his y fronts eating wotsits and furiously typing away to make up for the lack of women in his life
i don’t see what there is to negotiate to be honest ,we had a referendum,the result was to leave,brilliant in my opinion,we object to a number of things one of the main ones being free movement,start of meeting to negotiate ,[what deals to you have that don’t involve free movement?, answer none ,then there is no point wasting any more time on useless negotiating ,thankyou and goodbye,],we should then get on with trading with people that want free trade and start building up ourselves as a good nation to deal with and if theres no german cars or spanish oranges then so be it,if you were going to london and the m1 was closed find an alternative,there is always an alternative.these people will soon be knocking on our door before we go knocking on theres,and if they don’t lets move on,lets start biulding our own cars and build up our industries that we have let go over many years,lets have the churchill spirit that we had after the war,lets work and build up this country to be great again and show these people how good and great we are,and lets shut the channell tunnel while we are at it and stop using the dover to calais route and use or make an alternative to a friendlier country than france see how they like it ,end of rant,thanks
The-Snowman:
BTW, it is “some sort of victory” since you can never trust the word of a hypocrite.
If you really want to call the idea of saying no one has the right to vote the country out of existence as hypocrisy.Go ahead.
While at the same time it’s the remainers who are quibbling about and refusing to accept a federation v nation argument having been miraculously settled peacefully through the democratic process instead of by the gun.
On that note it’s people with your ideas who start wars not mine. 
Carryfast:
we’ve got the real little Englanders in the form of stupid naive indoctrinated youngsters who’ve got no real familiarity with Europe’s history and its people.
How do you know they are stupid,naive and indoctrinated? Have you asked them?
You dont think its entirelly possible they maybe read through the pros and cons and decided for themselves, making a judgement call they felt was in the best interests? This may be a shock to you CF so hold onto your chair but you are not necesserily right. Remain voters are not, simply by default, stupid. Lots of very,very clever and intelligent people voted remain. Much smarter and cleverer than you and with much more knowledge of the inner workings of the EU than you. No one but NOONE knows if this was the right result. We’re off a cliff now and no one knows how far the bottom is and worryingly, all the ones who led us there seem to be dithering over who is going to be the one to open the parachute. I voted leave and ill take the consequences if we hit the ground hard but ill also respect the opinions of those who voted stay and their smug “told you so” comments if this does all go ■■■■ up.
Try doing the same. You’ll probably live longer
Evil8Beezle:
Carryfast:
More like just two real Labour supporters agreeing.While unfortunately the irony is we’ve got the real little Englanders in the form of stupid naive indoctrinated youngsters who’ve got no real familiarity with Europe’s history and its people.Who’ve been given matches fuses and dynamite to play with in the form of Socialist ideology driven Federalism.IE this really ain’t a larf its frightening and its serious.
Oh dear, just because others don’t have EXACTLY the same views as you, you feel you need to ram your politics down the throat of others. Sadly though you don’t realise that your efforts are counter productive, as you’re don’t ever try to communicate and talk to people, you just attempt to impose your views on other by trying to partonise and bore them. Just look at what you’ve said above!
Well done Bellend!
As I said stupid naive indoctrinated Socialist youngsters who haven’t got a zb clue.Until the issue of Federation v Nation kicks off big time.On that note its the Corbyns and Junckers of this world who are doing all the ramming down throats.I’m just the messenger giving the warnings from history.Feel free to call that being a bellend if you want.
Carryfast:
If you really want to call the idea of saying no one has the right to vote the country out of existence as hypocrisy.Go ahead.
There you go again. Twisting things and putting words in peoples mouths. Thats not even CLOSE to what I said. Stop making stuff up.
You are ■■■■■■■■ about them not accepting a democratic vote yet you yourself stated you wouldnt accept a democratic vote unless it went your way either. THAT is what makes you a hypocrite. You cant demand they accept it and shut up if you would do the same without being a hypocrite. Theres no two ways about it so stop trying to justify it and talk your way around it. Its there in black and white.
Carryfast:
On that note it’s people with your ideas who start wars not mine.
My ideas? What, respecting other peoples opinions and the right to think differently? I dont think so some how.
How old do you think I am CF?
The-Snowman:
Carryfast:
we’ve got the real little Englanders in the form of stupid naive indoctrinated youngsters who’ve got no real familiarity with Europe’s history and its people.
How do you know they are stupid,naive and indoctrinated? Have you asked them?
You dont think its entirelly possible they maybe read through the pros and cons and decided for themselves, making a judgement call they felt was in the best interests? This may be a shock to you CF so hold onto your chair but you are not necesserily right. Remain voters are not, simply by default, stupid. Lots of very,very clever and intelligent people voted remain. Much smarter and cleverer than you and with much more knowledge of the inner workings of the EU than you. No one but NOONE knows if this was the right result. We’re off a cliff now and no one knows how far the bottom is and worryingly, all the ones who led us there seem to be dithering over who is going to be the one to open the parachute. I voted leave and ill take the consequences if we hit the ground hard but ill also respect the opinions of those who voted stay and their smug “told you so” comments if this does all go ■■■■ up.
Try doing the same. You’ll probably live longer
As I said the Cambridge spy ring were very clever people.While Marx was a bit more academically brighter than I’ll ever be.While there would have been plenty of people in Hitler’s circle who probably rightly viewed themselves as academically superior.
As for the cliff.Leave it out.A simple change in trading relationship,from a position of deficit strength and secession from the EU treaties to be replaced with EFTA membership.Which could be done in less than a week.Which conveniently seemed to be no problem at all when taking us from a non EU EFTA member country into an EU one.Which within a matter of less than five years led us into one of the biggest economic crisis of all time when Callaghan had to go running to the IMF for a Greek type bailout.With an economy teetering from austerity measure to austerity measure and lower incomes in real terms ever since.
While it’s clear to see that we’re being subjected to unwarranted economic sanctions.Together with Cameron deliberately obstructing our secession by playing for time.All as part of a pre arranged plan for the Europhile establishment to reverse any referendum decision regarding Leave.
On that note you can take your Socialist Federalist pro EU bs and shove it.
Evil8Beezle:
How old do you think I am CF?
Who cares.
I was referring to the supposed younger vote who are supposedly complaining about being ‘robbed’ by the older generation in the referendum vote and Corbyn’s Bolshevik mob shown on the news last night. Most/all of who wouldn’t be old enough to have had personal conversation with those later involved in both sides of the Yugoslav wars of secession for example.
Nor probably any personal family links to casualties of secessionist war.In my case the Ireland v UK one of 1916-20.