In or Out- the EU referendum mega thread

It’s interesting to see that call me Dave has stated that unequivocally there’ll not be another referendum and that everyone should respect the result. A cynical person might think that his own personal leaning was towards voting out but he was hamstrung by those who pull his strings! Just a thought.

For all those that voted out (myself included) you can take solace in the fact that you actually changed the world. Whether it’ll be for the better or for worse remains to be seen, but how many millions of people have lived and died throughout history and had no impact whatsoever on history? We have.

Dolph:
Britain loses Triple-A credit rating after Brexit vote!

Former Liberal Democrat leader Paddy Ashdown fears that Britain will eventually have to pay more to borrow, due to S&P’s downgrade:
UK credit rating down. Cost of UK debt up. 0.5% on £470 bn debt = £22 Bn. 2X our EU contribution to international money men. Taking control?

Ratings agency Moody’s will downgrade the credit rating outlook for major British banks to “negative” on Tuesday because of the fallout from the vote to leave the European Union, Sky News reported, citing sources.

A Sky News reporter said “a number of big UK lenders” had been told by Moody’s that their credit rating outlook would shift to negative from stable or positive.

Fitch and Standard & Poor’s cut Britain’s sovereign credit ratings earlier on Monday, judging the vote to leave the EU will hurt the economy.

Each month Osbourne borrows billions of new money via fresh bond issues to plug the PSBR.
Now that we’ve been downgraded, we’re “officially” (ie on paper only) supposed to pay more for our fresh borrowings straight away.

What the Bank of England is doing at present though - is printing £250billion of new money, and injecting it into the economy via what amounts to “yet more QE” by purchasing those bonds that we otherwise would have to sell to foreign investors at a discount. It’s already been done once for that amount since the referendum result came in.

It’s a temporary measure though. If we keep issuing new bonds, and buying them all ourselves with printed money - Mark Carney will eventually end up looking like ■■■■ Fuld - owning ALL the “about to go toxic” debt, at which point we face a crisis comparable to the Weimar Republic collapse in the 1920’s, and ■■■■ Fuld’s own crisis when Lehman’s collapsed.
Barclays and RBS were suspended for a while during Friday’s trading session. Were they caught long of the stock market and sterling I wonder?
Goldman Sachs are already on the record with regards to “London as a base” - “We’re not going anywhere” which in fact represents the strongest bit of leadership among a particular peer group shown so far… Goldman’s move will plug the dyke that otherwise have seen quite a few banks quit for places like Frankfurt.

That Hunt has suggested that a “vote for him brings a second referendum” - he needs to be taken out and shot by the current Triumvirate as soon as possible.
I would say that a denouncement by the end of today is likely, regardless of how guarded Hunt’s words were, bearing in mind he appears to be backpeddling as I write this.

So… To the Triumvirate then:

Boris for PM, supported by Osbourne who gets to keep his current job, and May who gets to keep her current job - despite being remainers in the lion’s den otherwise.

This would mean Boris being crowned as Cameron’s successor for a smooth handover in the autumn - by the close of business this friday.

That’s my read of the current situation anyway. :sunglasses: :bulb:

Remember: You read it here first!

Reef:
The BBC have been the biggest [zb] scaremongers of the whole goddamned campaign, I will never believe anything I hear reported by the BBC ever again!

Very sensible

Guys for a look into how “democracy” works at Westminster - have a look into a man whos job title is The Remembrancer

Just google it

I have not read the entire thread. (lifes to short to read the gospel according to Carryfast) so am unaware of the concencus of opinion on here on Nigel Farage (although I am confident that Carryfast will fill me in, in his own inimitable way :unamused: )

Just listened to Nigel Farage’s speech to the Euro Parliament, it was a Corporal Jones special (‘‘They don’t like it up em’’ :smiley: )
He’s just told them none of them have had a proper job or ran a business :smiley: and told them that trade between the UK and Europe is not one sided but mutually beneficial.
He also brought up Merkel’s unlimited immigration policy to a few uncomfortable looking, as well as smiling faces.
He got many boos at the end, but also some standing ovations.
Check it out if you get the chance.

Whether you like him or not, he says it like it is, and is not afraid of speaking his mind, even if it is to the detrement of others.
It’s a pity he did not have the qualification to run for PM, contraversial I know, but the sort of guy that I personally like.

Btw I’ve removed my drunken rant post I did last night, posted after the England v Iceland. game :unamused:
…sorry guys :blush: just passionate about football. :smiley:

robroy:
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Btw I’ve removed my drunken rant post I did last night, posted after the England v Iceland. game :unamused:
…sorry guys :blush: just passionate about football. :smiley:

Don’t worry, I’m sure nobody saw it, or copied it… :grimacing:

the maoster:
It’s interesting to see that call me Dave has stated that unequivocally there’ll not be another referendum and that everyone should respect the result. A cynical person might think that his own personal leaning was towards voting out but he was hamstrung by those who pull his strings! Just a thought.

Cameron and Corbyn have always been ‘leavers’, Corbyn to the point whereby he has voted against it at every opportunity. They had a choice to follow the establishment line or not, and they chose the former and get no respect from me for that.

Boris, on the other hand, has always been a europhile and chose Vote Leave purely as a means of getting Cameron’s job. Just your typical politician really.

The saving grace may be that the Conservatives have a record of making sure that the favoured son doesn’t get the top job. Nothing has been heard from Grayling, Fox or Davis yet. There’s always hope. :unamused:

The European parliament is going to be a more boring place without Nigel Farage :smiley:

Evil8Beezle:
The French PM is talking strong about giving the UK a hard time about leaving the EU, and the Italian PM is ■■■■■■ at us as he’s already had to bail out his banks because of a downturn in the EU economy.

There is a signed Trade Agreement between the UK and India that has sat in the vaults of the DTI for seven years but never implemented. It was vetoed by the Italians.

the nodding donkey:

robroy:
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Btw I’ve removed my drunken rant post I did last night, posted after the England v Iceland. game :unamused:
…sorry guys :blush: just passionate about football. :smiley:

Don’t worry, I’m sure nobody saw it, or copied it… :grimacing:

:laughing: Yeh, I’ve just noticed somebody quoted it. :blush:
It would have to be E8b (‘ma boy’ )…wouldn’t it :unamused: :smiley:

robroy:

the nodding donkey:

robroy:
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Btw I’ve removed my drunken rant post I did last night, posted after the England v Iceland. game :unamused:
…sorry guys :blush: just passionate about football. :smiley:

Don’t worry, I’m sure nobody saw it, or copied it… :grimacing:

:laughing: Yeh, I’ve just noticed somebody quoted it. :blush:
It would have to be E8b (‘ma boy’ )…wouldn’t it :unamused: :smiley:

Would you like it removed Pops? :smiley:

Nah you’re ok bud, I’ve got a thick skin, I can take a bit of embarrasment, and stick :smiley: and at least if people take the ■■■■ out of me… they are leaving somebody else alone. :smiley:

robroy:
Just listened to Nigel Farage’s speech to the Euro Parliament

I’ll watch it later on the main news Rob, it’s forced to be on. :unamused:

Here is a documentary that you wont see on the bbc, Who Runs the EU ?

Nigel Farage (paraphrased):
17 years ago I stood here and said I want to find a way out of the EU and you all laughed at me, You’re not laughing now are you?!

Pure [zb]ing class :smiley:

robroy:
Nah you’re ok bud, I’ve got a thick skin, I can take a bit of embarrasment, and stick :smiley: and at least if people take the ■■■■ out of me… they are leaving somebody else alone. :smiley:

Well at least you had some passion last night, and I might get some some soon…
I’m now officially Welsh and my Velcro trousers and Wellies have just arrived! :smiley:

Evil8Beezle:
I’m now officially Welsh

Dream on fella :wink:

Muckaway:
Why do people keep replying to Carryfast? Just select him as a “foe” and then these threads will be much shorter and easier to read. Or you could ignore him altogether.

why ? he makes a bloody good argument for anyone, i see him regularly get ganged up on around here by the so called super keyboard warriors he keeps them running around in there circles like a pack of old women.
its not so easy to stand up to the mob so i take my hat of to carryfast for just plodding on and giving far more then ever gets
i seen one moron jumping up and down having dug through god knows how many past posts looking for something at all anything that has carryfasts name on it so he could publicly post it up on here like its some sort of victory ?

so carry on posting carryfast we can all see who the gang are on the site who act like a pack of women they know who they are to bunch of fairys the lot of them

Love that speech from Nigel, just the right balance of smugness and gloating, as let’s face it, who could resist if they were in the same position! :smiley: Interesting that he got a mixed reaction and I do agree that i don’t think we will be the last, we may just be the first of many…

desypete:

Muckaway:
Why do people keep replying to Carryfast? Just select him as a “foe” and then these threads will be much shorter and easier to read. Or you could ignore him altogether.

why ? he makes a bloody good argument for anyone, i see him regularly get ganged up on around here by the so called super keyboard warriors he keeps them running around in there circles like a pack of old women.
its not so easy to stand up to the mob so i take my hat of to carryfast for just plodding on and giving far more then ever gets
i seen one moron jumping up and down having dug through god knows how many past posts looking for something at all anything that has carryfasts name on it so he could publicly post it up on here like its some sort of victory ?

so carry on posting carryfast we can all see who the gang are on the site who act like a pack of women they know who they are to bunch of fairys the lot of them

LOL, yeah because we all respect your views as well bud! :open_mouth: